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old pattern - 5/25/2002 10:21:03 PM   
tomgtv6


 

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Status: offline 		what is everybodys opinions on older pattern planes.
I have a Bridi Kaos 40 that I fly a bunch. Im thinking of one of the Sun Fli s , Kraft kwik Fli. what are some others?
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Re: old pattern - 5/26/2002 6:19:02 AM   
CurtD



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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by tomgtv6
what is everybodys opinions on older pattern planes.
I have a Bridi Kaos 40 that I fly a bunch. Im thinking of one of the Sun Fli s , Kraft kwik Fli. what are some others? [/QUOTE]

Popular aircraft in Senior Pattern Assoc. are Daddy Rabbit (1967, I think), Dirty Birdy ('75 and still available from Joe Bridi), T2A, Compensator, New Orleanean, Patricia, a smattering of others before '75. Visit the SPA website for a whole list of pattern aircraft from the era you are interested in. The planes are divided into Antique class ('65 and older) and regular (over '65 but no younger than '75).

Link: http://www.rcpattern.net/spa/

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OLD PATTERN - 5/26/2002 6:26:56 AM   
vinnyjet



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Status: offline 		LOVE THOSE OLD PATTERN PLANES
I FLY AN EU1A/ARROW/GLAXISE/UFO
VINNY

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old pattern - 5/26/2002 7:26:50 PM   
tomgtv6


 

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Status: offline 		That is the web site that has me thinking about the planes.

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old pattern - 5/27/2002 7:38:34 AM   
F106A



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Status: offline 		Hi,
There's the EYEBALL, any of the PHOENIX series, and the TROUBLEMAKER to name a few. If you want some really early designs there's the SMOG HOG, ASTRO HOG, ORION, and TAURUS.
Regards,
Jon

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vintage pattern - 5/27/2002 9:19:01 PM   
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Status: online 		SPA airplanes are awesome, tough to beat a Dirty Birdy or T-2A. The Daddy Rabbit seems to be the popular choice at the contests shown on their website. Most all of their competitions seemed based in the deep south... depends on where you live & if you plan to do any kind of competitive flying or just have one of these planes just for the fun of it.

You might also consider slightly older machines that the VR/CS (Vintage Radio Control Society) allow, I believe the cut-off here is 1970 rather than '75 as the SPA allows. Here the Kwik-Fly or Sun-Fli would be great choices... as would dozens of other designs. If you are in the Northeast please consider joining us at the VR/CS reunion this year over Labor Day weekend. Site is Sayre, Pa. Email me if you would like more info.
Sun Fli is a very easy kit (just built one) and makes a nice entry into vintage pattern.

Scott

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Plans??? - 5/29/2002 5:11:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Love some of the oldies. Anyone have plans for the Top Flight Orion??? Also want to build an Astro Hog but with the "Barn Door" ailerons like the original had.

Ed Izzo's Sabre Hawk was a neat plane. Used to fly with him in Syracuse.

Tony Vlasak

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old pattern - 5/29/2002 5:35:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thought the Dirty Birdy was earlier than 75, like maybe 73. However I think it was modified to have a pipe tunnel later, maybe 75? Also thought the SPA cutoff was 76?

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Vintage Pattern - 11/6/2002 11:59:57 PM   
JeffH


 

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Status: offline 		Don't forget about the original Tiger Tails. I happend to have a NIB 'glass kit and I have a really old Perigee pattern kit designed by Don Brett(I think???)

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old pattern - 11/7/2002 6:49:37 AM   
ec121k


 

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Status: offline 		Tom Brett as I recall. Used to be a designer for GM and DeBolt kitted his winning design. I remember seeing one in Endicott, NY at the Aeroguidance Society contest probably about 1964. I think Pete Reed was flying it.

I would be interested in a copy of the plans if available.

Tony

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old pattern - 11/7/2002 9:24:34 AM   
jaof


 

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Status: offline 		Hi

Try Tom Dixon's site-even though he is more into control line he has plans available for some of the best planes ever designed such as the Orion, Taurus, Beachcomber, Crusader, Tom Brett's Perigee, Sultan and other designs from the Vintage era.

Do a google search for Tom Dixon and check under the plans section

Hope this helps

have fun

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old pattern - 11/7/2002 9:52:02 AM   
ec121k


 

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Status: offline 		Thanks for the info on Dixon. I'd been into his site but never tagged it to my favorites and then couldn't remember. He has some of the great old designs.

I think that Doug Spreng "Stormer" would be a pretty good "knock around" everyday plane that would be quick to build.

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old pattern - 11/8/2002 8:58:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		You have the best now. If you can find the Sportmaster, Trainermaster or Aeromaster as suggestions.

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old pattern - 11/11/2002 12:05:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Tom Dixon's web site is: http://members.tripod.com/~TomDixon/tomdixon.htm

If you want plans for the Taurus, Tauri, Aeromaster, Sportmaster, or Trainermaster, write Ron Clem at [email]pakrattt@aol.com[/email] or (858) 450-1968. Super nice fellow and good service.

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Old pattern planes opion on GP Illusion - 11/27/2002 3:05:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Guys,
I loved the old days of go fast pattern and I still fly my Compensator with an OPS 60 redhead when I get the chance. I just saw an Illusion show sale on the auction site. I never had one of these but I saw Dave Brown fly one at the NATS years ago. I was wondering what your thoughts were on this airplane.

Jorge

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old pattern - 11/27/2002 3:58:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Illusion was never as good as a Tiporare or Curare. The mid wing reduced the knife edge capability and it had more cross-coupling then the Tipo's. Just my opinion!

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Great Planes Illusion - 11/27/2002 4:24:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Jorge,
I can tell you without a doubt you will love the plane, I have a Illusion I built 3 years ago I am flying for sport and it is fantastic. As to what the previous post stated, I can not disagree more. I have flown this plane in strong cross winds and it does not budge. On the other hand, my Tipo 750 drifts quite a bit. Knife edge is also great, I have a YS 91 in mines and it knife ecges absolutely strai