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RE: WWW. LEARNING 3D-STEP BY STEP - 4/2/2004 8:29:59 PM   
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I am no longer posting on this thread....it has become a sideshow


same over here zep...........

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RE: WWW. LEARNING 3D-STEP BY STEP - 4/2/2004 9:41:50 PM   
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And to think, I just got spy photos of the lunar lander. Now i'm not going to post them. You can kiss my curvy butt good-bye as well. Joe

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RE: WWW. LEARNING 3D-STEP BY STEP - 4/3/2004 5:45:15 PM   
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by the time you learn to 3d iti - we will be doing 8d and you will be 100+

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RE: WWW. LEARNING 3D-STEP BY STEP - 4/4/2004 12:27:28 AM   
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well then, here's a suggestion

To learn to torque roll you need to learn to hover first. And when you hover, the plane's tendency is to torque roll left. When you're learning to hover, the last thing you want the plane to do is to rotate so that the belly is facing you (the rudder and elevator inputs appear to be reversed). To avoid this add enough right aileron input to keep the plane from rolling. After doing this a couple times you can determine what amout of aileron input is needed to hold the plane steady, and you can then do this automatically and focus on keeping plane in one position.

Next, you can focus on keeping the plane vertical using rudder and elevator input. It is easiest to keep the plane going up slowly (not perfectly stationary) since the plane is more stable this way, and yet you learn how to react to keep the plane in this vertical attitude.

Once you can keep the plane from rolling (right aileron) and keep the plane pretty much vertical (rudder and elevator) it is time to keep the altitude constant. Small bursts of throttle help since usually there isn't one throttle setting that will keep the plane at the same height over time. These bursts of throttle also make the tail more reactive (makes it easier to recover the plane back to a vertical position).

After learning to hover it can still be a big challenge to learn to torque roll. It is very much like learning to fly towards yourself inverted. The rudder and elevator appear to be reversed. However, I found it simplest to find a position of the sticks where the plane tends to stay vertical and to wait for the plane to rotate half the way around so it looks normal to me again and then correct it. This way I was only correcting the plane's attitude during the 120 degrees or so that the belly was facing away from me. Over time you become accustomed to correcting the plane at any position in a torque roll.

Marcus

I hope this helps (and do tell what part of these tips you don't like since we are trying to help but just don't know what kind of help you are looking for).

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