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lost - 1/25/2004 12:57:32 AM

drink man

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hi im not that in to flyin but i have this plane hanging in my room for 10years it has a gas motor i think dont know if its nitro or gas well it has no remote just two wires out the side of the wing i dont know how to start it its not that big wingspan like 3ft it says fox 15 on the motor metal gas tank can any on give me any info plz? what dos fox 15 meen

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RE: lost - 1/25/2004 1:13:03 AM

Pattern Student

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Hi,
What you have is a control line model; it is intended to be flown on control lines (Approximately .008 in. or so steel wire) in a circle of about 50 feet diameter. The control lines should be attached to a handle which is moved up/down to control the climb or descent of the model. The flyer (pilot) must stand in the center of the circle and turn as the model flys around the circumference of the circle. Beginning pilots usually get very dizzy!!!!

The Fox .15 is a relatively small, 2 stroke engine of about .15 cubic inch displacement.

I very strongly suggest that you go to your local hobby shop and find some competent help before you try to fly this model. The engine uses a special fuel; and once running can seriously injure hands/fingers/eyes, due to the spinning propeller. The model, when flying, presents a hazard to anyone that wanders into the flight path---if struck by the model, serious injury or death could result.

Also, VERY IMPORTANT, if the control lines come in contact with electrical power lines, the pilot could be ELECTROCUTED!!

Hope this helps,

< Message edited by Pattern Student -- 1/24/2004 7:15:06 PM >

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RE: lost - 1/25/2004 1:37:16 AM

drink man

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COOL DO U THINK I CAN PUT IT IN A RC CAR

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RE: lost - 1/25/2004 1:40:24 AM

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No Not really! It's an engine intended for control line use. There's no throttle control And it needs a good airflow to keep it cool.

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RE: lost - 1/25/2004 2:26:54 AM

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Control line flying can be interesting. It won't hurt to try it.

A .15 engine, you typically use .012 stranded steel lines, 50 to 55 ft long.

When learning to fly them... you want relatively little control. You want to learn to "dance" in a circle following the airplane as it goes in circles. As you get used to that, you slowly add more control throw to the model. And you start with a SMALL fuel tank at first... 5 laps (about 30 sec) will be enough your first flight. (don't want to crash due to being dizzy.)

Without knowing which model you have... and its condition, hard to say if you should try to fly that one as is... repair it... or try a different aircraft.

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RE: lost - 1/25/2004 3:17:22 AM

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To find out more, I'll move this to the Control Line Forum here at RCU

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RE: lost - 1/25/2004 3:51:56 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Pattern Student > What you have is a control line model; it is intended to be flown on control lines (Approximately .008 in. or so steel wire) in a circle of about 50 feet diameter.

Wrong. Braided lines for 15's are 012's. Braided 008's are for 049's, which are one third of the size of a .15 ! That's a truly huge difference, and the mistake would be a serious one if it caused an injury by breaking. You should have looked it up rather than make that large of an error.

quote:

The control lines should be attached to a handle which is moved up/down to control the climb or descent of the model. The flyer (pilot) must stand in the center of the circle and turn as the model flys around the circumference of the circle. Beginning pilots usually get very dizzy!!!!

The Fox .15 is a relatively small, 2 stroke engine of about .15 cubic inch displacement.

I very strongly suggest that you go to your local hobby shop and find some competent help before you try to fly this model. The engine uses a special fuel; and once running can seriously injure hands/fingers/eyes, due to the spinning propeller. The model, when flying, presents a hazard to anyone that wanders into the flight path---if struck by the model, serious injury or death could result.

Also, VERY IMPORTANT, if the control lines come in contact with electrical power lines, the pilot could be ELECTROCUTED!!

One ignorant person did get himself killed that way, and it created some ripples that the CL part of the hobby is still suffering from when some pinko liberal judge allowed the survivors of that suicidal idiot who killed himself with his model to sue anyone and everyone instead of accepting the responsibility of not educating their moron any better.

The only cars that engines of this type were mounted in were "air cars" with propellers, running in circles on tethers. RC car engines are equipped with heavily finned heads to dissipate the heat. Both air engines and car engines run on fuel that contains alcohol and oil. Various percentages of Nitromethane, a power boosting oxidizer, are added to the fuel to go faster. Some racing RC car engines are capable of fantastic performance on fuels with percentages of Nitro seldom used for anything other than pure speed in CL flying. Perhaps that is why some RC car people have the idea that their engines are "Nitro" engines (there are plane engines that have been used with equally high percentages).

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RE: lost - 1/25/2004 12:47:25 PM

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drink man,
You might consider contacting your nearest CL (control line) flying club through the "Academy Of Model Aeronautics" web site. Someone will tell you where they fly. Take your plane to the field and let the flyers look it over. They can evaluate it and see if it will fly (it might have warps, etc). Someone at the field may offer to teach you to fly.
If it turns out you have no interest, you might want to sell it to someone and use the money toward a modern car engine.
Good luck whichever way you go.
George

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RE: lost - 1/26/2004 12:10:19 AM

drink man

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how much will i get for it its not that grate vary old

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RE: lost - 2/13/2004 3:04:51 PM

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The plane and engine you describe is worth between $1 and about $40 depending on the series and condition. Some of the Fox 15's sold new for under $7.

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RE: lost - 3/12/2004 1:11:02 AM

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make a video and send it to me when it flies on 25ft lines!!! (first reply, "about 50 feet in diameter"!!!!!

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