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    RE: Sig Mayhem 3D ARF - 2/6/2004 1:14:28 AM   
    csliger



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    From: MEAD, CO, USA
    Status: offline     		It is cold! Been snowing for two days now, gotta go brush the dust off the boxes at my local hobby shop! Those are the new Sig 3-D wheel-pant ski's..I got so busy filling the seam on those ugly suckers that I accidentally turned them into snowshoes!
    And Robin, those servos are about 5x10^5 nano seconds slower but hey what's a few millimicroseconds among friends LOL! Actually I think those are a good choice I don't think you'll notice a few milliseconds with that big of control surfaces, may even help...metal gears will probably save the bird and ya won't even know it!

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    RE: RE: Sig Mayhem 3D ARF - 2/6/2004 1:22:10 AM   
    hulley29


     

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    Joined: 11/18/2003
    From: hoschton, GA, USA
    Status: offline     		YAHOO!! I'll have mine monday! I'm going with a YS 1.10. How was the covering? I had a four star 60 ARF and the covering and quality was great! hope it's the same on this bird. CSLIGER, the pics look great! does this thing have dual elevator servos?

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    RE: RE: Sig Mayhem 3D ARF - 2/6/2004 1:35:03 AM   
    csliger



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    From: MEAD, CO, USA
    Status: offline     		No dual mount without Mods, you can see the hole under the elevator in one of the side shots. An earlier post gives the cut-out dimensions and Mounting depths. Woulda been nice to have the option though...maybe...uhm or not.
    The covering was beautiful, I wish one could go to world model's factory for lessons...however it was not adhered all that well and so I went over the whole thing with the iron and melted it on a little better, but then hey nobody's beating me with a stick to get fifty planes a day done either... Just careful around the seams not to creep it, in fact I did those first at a lower temp and then shrunk and glued the rest.

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    RE: Sig Mayhem 3D ARF - 2/6/2004 1:45:30 AM   
    robinr767


     

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    Joined: 12/30/2002
    From: Gig Harbor, WA, USA
    Status: offline     		Gee, we have similar problems - Weather and Wheel Pants.

    Weather:
    Here in southern Florida I'm worried about getting sand in my new servos.
    BUT- I will be flying my Mayhem next week on wheels and not skis. (shorts will be the uniform)

    Wheel pants:
    I was really worried about all the gripes over the pants. The more I look at them, the more I like the idea of a piece of red trim tape front to rear over the seam and calling it done! I can probably get in a dozen flights while you guys are fiddling with your pants. On the subject of wheel pants, a club member showed me how he filled the inside of the pants with instant spray foam insulation. He says it weighs only a little more that air and will stop a lot of vibration that causes cracking. Or maybe I'll just fly with my pants off. I finally took the pants off my revered "Dragon Lady"! It felt free and easy and you get used to the no pants look quickly.

    My servos are on the way. The first step in assembly is to install the servo - figures. For the life of me, I can't see any reason why they can't go in AFTER the wing goes together. Any of you out there who have gotten past step one agree?

    Gotta get back to the glue.

    Robin

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    RE: Sig Mayhem 3D ARF - 2/6/2004 2:04:38 AM   
    csliger



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    From: MEAD, CO, USA
    Status: offline     		Why do I have this image of you standing there in Florida flying (with) your pants off. LOL I just don't like their style is all, the trim tape is an excellent solution to the seam. I left mine unfinished at this point and may not do anything with them depending on what I do to dress this up a bit. BTW I completed the entire assembly without the servo's and beyond fishing the wire through the wings I don't think that it'll be trouble at all. They really could have CA'd some paper tubes into the ribs for a wire guide. I do it on my kit models and it only takes a minute or two at best. I did look down the holes they had in them and they are not aligned enough for making and installing your own. This is unusual as these wings are most likely jig built.

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    RE: Sig Mayhem 3D ARF - 2/6/2004 2:21:25 PM   
    robinr767


     

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    Joined: 12/30/2002
    From: Gig Harbor, WA, USA
    Status: offline     		???? Pull Pull rudder cables straight of crossed?

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    RE: RE: Sig Mayhem 3D ARF - 2/6/2004 4:03:26 PM   
    AIRPLANENUTS



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    From: atlanta, GA, USA
    Status: offline     		I would say straight! I wouldn't cross them.

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    RE: RE: Sig Mayhem 3D ARF - 2/6/2004 10:07:19 PM   
    Steve



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    Joined: 12/2/2001
    From: Ashton, ID, USA
    Status: offline     		Here is a couple of photos of the Webra 1.20 installed. The 1.20 four-stroke should be fine. The muffler should clear the cowl.

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    RE: Sig Mayhem 3D ARF - 2/7/2004 1:57:05 AM   
    DHammer



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    Joined: 11/11/2002
    From: Aurora, DC, USA
    Status: offline     		csliger,
    Sorry I never answered you but been out of town for a week. Anyways, I really feel that the 120 will have plenty of juice to hover in Colorado and pull out of it. I have a seagull Razzle with a saito 100 in it and weighs in at 7lbs 4oz and the saito 100 pulls it out of sight spinning a 15X6 prop.
    I too like to overpower a plane a bit, but anything more on this light bird will be over kill, and I'm not sure whether it would stay together. Don't know about you but I like to at least move the throttle stick over a 1/4 travel.
    I will get down to putting it together tomorrow, but as you know looks like the bad weather will be with us for a bit, so hopefully our fair weathered friends will get one up soon and give us a report.
    I agree with you about the wing, it will be fun putting that on in a breeze.
    By the way, nice Mod you did, makes sense, will be doing it to.

    Dhammer

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    RE: Sig Mayhem 3D ARF - 2/7/2004 4:28:01 AM   
    csliger



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    Joined: 5/20/2003
    From: MEAD, CO, USA
    Status: offline     		Thanks for the photo's Steve!! I think Robin's gonna mount this way too. I like the carb intake location! By the way how'd it balance out with the Webra anyway?
    Dhammer, Thanks for the reply! My LHS guy was suggesting the 180, I worry about the torque as this airframe is quite light. I am taking advantage of the weather to get some other projects done so I'm dragging my feet a little and waiting for the reports as well. I think Robin will have his up next week and we should have the word on a OS 120 too. If we don't install the 180 how are we gonna keep up with that webra? I like to be at just half throttle myself, plenty of reserve to compensate for my lack of skill!
    My LHS was out of the servos I wanted and I got there close to quitting time so I may dump the kids on the wife and sneak away tomorrow. I'll probably make a move on the motor after the Auction coming up, there were mad deals on motors last year so I'm saving my pennies. Last Year I picked up a beautiful Saito .45 for $50 and it pulls my GP Big Stik 40 all over the place and darn near hovers!

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    RE: RE: Sig Mayhem 3D ARF - 2/7/2004 3:31:49 PM   
    Steve



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    From: Ashton, ID, USA
    Status: offline     		csliger;
    I have not yet finished the plane as I too am working on getting another model finished up. I am in the process of finishing up a plane I built for a good friend and I'll be another week or so on it before I get back to the Mayhem.

    Steve

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    RE: RE: Sig Mayhem 3D ARF - 2/9/2004 5:04:09 AM   
    csliger



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    From: MEAD, CO, USA
    Status: offline     		I just got done installing the pull-pull cables. FYI they have loosely glued in an antenna guide for the cable hole.This means that you can't use a golden rod inner nor an antenna guide rod to thread these. This I found out after I lap glued with ca to a 0.62" music wire and pulled it through. There was a slight tightness as this combo is the inside dim (cable+ 062 wire) and it pulled the guide tube out on one side. Looking at it they did not roughen up the outside of the tube for better attachment, one may want to slip a little thin CA around theirs to keep these from popping out later. I ended up using a long (10" ) 1/16"drill bit as a "clunk" to thread the wire. I placed the cable into the flutes of the bit, wrapped with one layer of tape to keep wire in the flutes and rotated the fuse around as I fed it in to get the clunk around the formers. Also I'd part from the instruction sequence and install on servo inside fuse first, then do the final terminations out-side where you can get at them a little easier. The good news is they used the rest of the antenna guide material to glue in an antenna guide, so that problem is solved!

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    RE: RE: Sig Mayhem 3D ARF - 2/9/2004 5:07:47 AM   
    csliger



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    From: MEAD, CO, USA
    Status: offline     		...make that original wire size 0.062" music wire...no it wasn't re-bar! LOL

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    RE: RE: Sig Mayhem 3D ARF - 2/10/2004 3:33:20 AM   
    robinr767


     

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    From: Gig Harbor, WA, USA
    Status: offline     		OS 1.2 Surpass installation :[image][/image] Looks like cooling will not be a problem.

    Pictures of my pants with red racing stripes comming soon!

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    RE: Sig Mayhem 3D ARF - 2/10/2004 4:49:50 AM   
    qweedqwag



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