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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/2/2004 9:18 PM   
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Would it be possible for you to post some images of your model. I am currently building an old Aero Glass 1/5 D9.

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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/2/2004 9:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		FOXX, You are correct. I stand corrected. However the one in AZ had the wing from the one in Dayton untill 2yrs ago when they discoverd there mistake. So I guess that would make it a D11. Just kidding. I don't have a digital camera but my friend does so next time he comes by I'll try to post some pics.
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Puff Daddy, I believe the one in Arizona is D13 not a D9.


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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/2/2004 9:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tom, We have run into each other on rescalebuilders site. But I am planning to send you some pictures asap. Scale Rules

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Puff Daddy,

Would it be possible for you to post some images of your model. I am currently building an old Aero Glass 1/5 D9.


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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/2/2004 10:13 PM   
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Tom, We have run into each other on rescalebuilders site. But I am planning to send you some pictures asap. Scale Rules

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Puff Daddy,

Would it be possible for you to post some images of your model. I am currently building an old Aero Glass 1/5 D9.



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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/2/2004 10:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Randy , it was just a comment not correction . I actually did some research on that plane and was fixing to go south and take a peek, but the museum director told me they are currently restoring it and it would be out of sight for two or three years, bomb.

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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/2/2004 11:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry man did'nt mean it the way it sounded. I have seen it fully assembled, how cool. The last time I saw it assembled was in 2001. When I went back the next year for my anuall NASCAR RACE IN 2002 IT WAS TAKEN APART.
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Randy , it was just a comment not correction . I actually did some research on that plane and was fixing to go south and take a peek, but the museum director told me they are currently restoring it and it would be out of sight for two or three years, bomb.


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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/2/2004 11:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Puff Daddy,

My apologies for confusing you, the pictures are actually of a FW-190 A-8. This was the nearest that I could get some photo's of for detail for my D-9. There are a lot of common areas on the D-9 and A-8, obviously excluding the nose forward of the gun hood and the extension plug in the tail.

The colour scheme on the 190 at the Imperial War Museum may not be too accurate, hard to tell as there were many slight variations and shades used towards the end of the war. Also the panel fit apparently varied a great deal. Even colours on adjacent panels could vary a great deal as parts/panels were robbed off other aircraft.

Let me know if there are any specific areas on the aircraft which you want to see.


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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/2/2004 11:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sarah, Just keep the pictures coming!

Control surface detail would be nice.

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Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/5/2004 9:57 PM   
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I would like to share details of my TF FW190-D9. The model weighs 11-12 pounds. It is powered by a Enya 90-4C. Retracts are Robart 606HD 85 deg air retracts and the struts are Robart 650 straight Robo struts. The cowl, gun hood, and air intake are from Stan's Fibertech. The exausts are from the kit. It has the functional split flaps and also has the TF cockpit and pilot. It is covered with 0.5 oz glass cloth and finished with Marine grade resin. The paint is from Tamiya, airbrushed to the JV44 colors. Although the markings are not quite accurate, it still comes up as a very impressive model. Completely accurate markings and insignia are in the works as I type. The model was not to difficult to build. Any modeller with some experience should be able to complete this kit. The model flies as it looks. There are no unusual traits, it flies like its on rails. I highly recommend this kit to anyone who is sick of seeing 54 P51's, 27 F4U's, 16 Spitfires and 12 P40's at the field at any given time. This kit is an eye catcher and a P51 killer.
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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/6/2004 1:59 AM   
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I LIKE IT!!!

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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/6/2004 2:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Toz ,very good looking plane, good job. I was wondering about 3-blade prop and Enya engine combo, how does it work for you.

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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/6/2004 2:30 AM   
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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/6/2004 3:24 AM   
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Thanks for the complements. I personally have built 2 P51's. My last one was about 10yrs ago. It was a Pilot model. 48" wingspan with a Webra speed 40 in it. It flew beautifully. The Graupner 12X8 3 blade prop is the best combination for engine and model. I tried all sorts of combos, but didn't get the performance I wanted. Its perfectly suited for the model and engine. Does anyone know where I can get a scale spinner for this model. Short of actually turning one myself, I cant find one. Any clues. Also, is there a better suited cowl for this model. The Stans cowl is a tiny bit small.
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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/6/2004 4:09 AM   
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I liked the Pica spinner for their D9.

I've posted this picture before. You may have seen it. It's my Pica D9.

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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/6/2004 6:41 AM   
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It looks like the one I need. I see you are using a simillar prop to me. How does it suit you model?

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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/6/2004 8:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually, It never flew with that prop. It used a 14/6 two blade on an OS 91 4 stroke. Weight of the plane was 12#.

Skyshark is coming out with a FW prop. It will have a bolt hole through the center. It's not available yet.

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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/10/2004 7:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Everyone, I am in the process of building a TP FW 190D. I will give a complete report after I am finished. I will now state that my kit wasn't the best in the world. There were parts missing, parts list missing and there was suppose to be a correction notice which I didn't receive. The sheeting I thought was very thin and hard to work with. I had places in the wing, notably the area where the wing bolts are that were build very weak, so I did a few changes. As I build the kit I was thinking of how I could give suggestions that would help someone build this model. I am now in the process of glassing the model, my first time at glassing and so far, so good. By the way, I have retracts, flaps, and canopy that I can open and close while in flight. I installed an OS 90 surpass. I'm also using a fiberglass cowl and gun hood. I should have it finished soon and for what it's worth, I'll post step by step on how I made changes and build the kit.
It is not a hard plane to build but you do have to be careful that you receive everything. One thing I will say, when I called Top Flite, they responded immediately and I had the parts in no more then two days. I have build many planes over the years so that helped me with building this one but I would not recommend this one to someone who doesn't have building experience.
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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/11/2004 9:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		The TF FW190D9 is my next, next plane. I am in the process of accumulating the hardware necessary to build it. Most of the list members have fiberglassed the plane, but I think one response implied another method of finishing. Has anyone just painted or monokoted the plane? I know it would be difficult to get a realistic finish with either of the latter methods, so I was quite surprised it was even suggested. There has also been quite a lot of controversy regarding engine size ( I know, mine is bigger than yours!). TF recommends a 90 FS, but several members on the list have complained the plane flies poorly with this engine. I realize that performance depends on the weight of the plane, but I was wondering what, if any, consensus would be on engine size. This would be my first attempt at glassing so I would imagine that the end product will be on the heavy side

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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/11/2004 10:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		My similar-sized Pica D9 flew well at 12# on a OS .91 4 stroke. A larger motor would make it a jet!

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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/11/2004 11:19 PM   
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A 90FS would be plenty for this scale model. Mine flies very realistically with an Enya 90-4C. It doesn't go balistic, but what real WW2 war bird does. If you want power in reserve, try a 91 2 stroke motor such as a OS 91 FX. Thats power in reserve, but has not got the 4 cycle sound. I dont know whether a 120 4 stroke would fit, but this model certainly can use the weight up front.
Tom!! I just saw a scale propeller for this model on EBay for 20 bucks.
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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/12/2004 1:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		To answer one question you have, yes, I have build a FW190, can't remember the kit, years ago and was afraid of fiberglassing so I used Perfect balsa filler and paint. On the TF FW190 I'm building now, I thought of going the same direction until I decided, the hell with it, I'll try fiberglassing. Well I started out by using Bondo polyester resin. I should say all my experiments were on test pieces of balsa wood. Anyway, I didn't like the polyester resin, it set up to fast and I was afraid of blowing up the house with the fumes. My shop is in the basement furnace room. Then I tried the small 9oz Great Planes epoxy, again I could only do small pieces at a time because even though it was 30 minute epoxy, it still set up to fast when mixed in large batches. Now I was doing this over 3/4 oz fiberglass. Well next I tried thinning the Great Planes epoxy and use no fiberglass, that worked good but still didn't give me the strength I wanted and didn't fill the grain. So I tried the Perfect balsa filler over that and with a lot of elbow grease, it came out smooth. Ah,,,I wasn't done yet experimenting. Instead of using Perfect, I tried Krylon primer/sealer that I purchased at Wal Mart. That worked even better. Easier to sand and cleans up with water and no fumes. But I was tired of spending great sums of money on Great Planes epoxy, so I checked other forums here and decided to try West System epoxy. I ordered their slow kit and pumps. What a relief that is to use, I can mix enough epoxy correctly to do one complete wing panel and have time to scrape off the excess and blot off any remaining epoxy. It takes just over night to set up and you're ready to sand and it sands real good. Start with 100 grit paper and work your way to finer paper. It doesn't take much if you blotted off the excess epoxy when you did the job. Toilet paper works great for that job. I was real happy with the job, but I thought I could do better so I used the Krylon over that, let it dry for an hour or so and sanded that down. The Krylon filled whatever weave that was showing and made a glass smooth surface. So there is my combination, West System slow epoxy kit and Krylon primer. I'm about half way finished glassing my FW190 and it's coming out great. Check out some of the forums here on fabrication and you'll get an idea of how to lay out your fiberglass and do the job, that's what I did. You said you're concerned about the weight, don't be IF you scrape and blot off the excessive epoxy, all you want is the fiberglass cloth to stick to the wood, not a build up of epoxy. One more thing I was concerned with and you may be too, use enough fiberglass cloth to over run at lease an inch past your work surface. After the epoxy cures, it's real easy to cut with a razor and what edge you have will sand very easy. Another thing I learned about cutting fiberglass cloth, go to Wal Mart and get a fabric cutting set. What a nice job that cutter does, sure better then scissers. Remember other guys have their ways of doing fiberglassing, this is just my way after doing a lot of experimenting. This is my first fiberglass job so I'm no expert. I'm also going to use a 90 4 stroker and I'll guarantee that engine will fly this plane great.
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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/13/2004 3:33 PM   
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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/22/2004 1:14 PM   
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Also just checked on RC Groups site and if you go to the scale aircraft section of discussion there is a guy that is building the T/F 190D9. Does'nt sound to impressed, but it may just be his mood.


Do we really need this?? I'm not "to impressed" with Top Flite. It's ok but I've seen better. Never have I had a kit lacking parts, instructions and updates. I stand by what I said.

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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/24/2004 10:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi tozdezignz very nice " Dora " I just finished my TF190 with the exception of the cowl and gun hood , exhaust , supercharger . I want to know which Stans Fibertech parts did you use I see on the site they only list a cowl for the TF FW190 but they list all the scale accessories for the PICA FW190 . I want to finish my plane but not with the poor quality scale accessories that came with the kit .

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RE: Top Flite FW 190 D9 Equipment - 3/24/2004 10:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I, too, would be interested to know if the Pica parts will fit the TF Dora. I have a friend building the TF kit and doesn't like the look of the plastic parts.

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