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Ever been injured by a spinning prop? Yes or No
No I have never been injured by a prop (knock on wood)
  36% (93)
Yes and it was caused by a momentary lack of concentration and respect
  59% (153)
Yes from an equipment malfunction (IE: radio glitch, broken prop, etc)
  3% (8)
Yes and it was due to the actions of another modeler.
  1% (4)


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(last vote on : 8/28/2008 11:02:10 AM)
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RE: Ever been injured by a spinning prop? Yes or No - 2/6/2004 9:49:42 PM   
SDR-Hammer


 

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Mike in DC
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ORIGINAL: SDR-Hammer
A hundred and twenty views on this thread so far and twenty six votes. Everybody falls into one catagory yes or no. Please help with the survey.


I suspect that if the same person views a thread multiple times, it still adds to the view count. That means that folks that come back time and time again to see more prop accident stories drive up the number.


Very true hadn't given that much thought, but then agian at that point the thread wasn't even two hours old yet so a large percentage had to be drive by readers.

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RE: Ever been injured by a spinning prop? Yes or No - 2/6/2004 10:15:48 PM   
PROP-WASH


 

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Status: offline 		YEP GOT EIGHT STITCHES TO THE THUMB SPRING OF {03] GOT A LITTLE CONCERNED AS I WAS ALONE
OUT AT THE FIELD APPROX 8 MILES IN THE COUNTRY I HAVE HAD A LIVER AND KIDNEY TRANSPLANT SO
HAVE ALOT OF DIFFERNT MEDS INCLUDING BLOOD THINNERS. SO IT WAS PRETTY MESSY TO SAY THE LEAST
YEA A COUPLE GOOD LESSIONS WERE LEARNED THAT DAY.
[1]- DON'T FLY ALONE IF YOU CAN HELP IT
[2]- THINKABOUT WHAT YOUR DOIN.


pRoP-wAsH

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RE: Ever been injured by a spinning prop? Yes or No - 2/6/2004 10:45:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I personally have only been "touched" by a prop, HOWEVER, My son had fingers broken by a 100cc single that decided to fire after abt a half hour of cranking. He said words I haven't heard since leaving the navy!
He was EXTREMELY lucky not to have lost fingers altogether. This past summer at a flyin in Rantoul, we were both showered with "parts" as a flyer fell into his 22X10 prop being swung by a 100cc twin. This gentleman LOST fingers . It was a very upsetting experience and not soon forgotten.

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RE: Ever been injured by a spinning prop? Yes or No - 2/6/2004 11:20:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I said yes because when I was about 14 yo I reached throught the prop of a Fox .35 Combat Special to adjust the needle valve. Not much damage to my hand or fingers but I broke my only 10-6 nylon prop and couldn't fly that day. Sometimes when they are spinning and you can't see them you forget for a second that they are there.

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RE: Ever been injured by a spinning prop? Yes or No - 2/7/2004 12:41:13 AM   
CCRC1



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RE: Ever been injured by a spinning prop? Yes or No - 2/7/2004 1:02:01 AM   
rw Guinn



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I have never been hit by a spinning prop.
I do have a rather nasty scar on my right forefinger from a backfire when hand-starting a ST-.35 combat, with a nylon prop, on a test stand.
I switched to wooden props, and wear a glove when breaking in engines that need to be hand started. have never had a problem since

Roger

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RE: RE: Ever been injured by a spinning prop? Yes or No - 2/7/2004 2:17:34 PM   
DBCherry


 

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Status: offline 		Had a "normal" brain cramp and put my thumb through the rotating prop on a 40 FP. The engine was only at a high idle, but it still split the thumb nail lengthwise from cuticle to tip. I too was alone at the field; wrapped the thumb with a paper towel and electrical tape which slowed the blood enough to pack up and drive home. Took a few months to grow out.

I was at a scale competition a few years back, and had just watch a club mate fly his 1/3rd scale DVII with a 62cc (I think) engine. He was "walking" the plane, engine running, back across the runway (from the grass strip) with his caller. Each had a hand on the top wing, right and left. His caller let go and went back a few feet to pick up something on the ground, and at about the same time the transmitter slipped in the pilot's hand. Engine went to full throttle and the plane started coming around the pilot. (He still had hold of the left wing.) He reached down with his left hand to try and stop the plane, and the prop chopped up his left forearm pretty badly.

It was a large competition on an airforce base, so the ambulance got there real quick. He got back from the hospital a few hours later with 60 something internal, and 32 external stitches. Doctors said he was lucky because the prop missed a major artery by millimeters.
Dennis-

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RE: RE: Ever been injured by a spinning prop? Yes or No - 2/7/2004 2:51:44 PM   
xp8103



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Status: offline 		CFor those of you old enough and lived in the colder climes...

Most EVERYONE flip-started the engines 20-30+ years ago (yours truely included as evidenced by my above post).
There are two "sensations" that most any modeler over the age of 35 can remember - the dreaded .049 bite and (again for those in the colder nether regions) having ones COLD starting finger "thumped" by a backfire. The cold weather magnified the pain to no end.
Growing up, the engine of choice for me (via my Dad) were Mercos - .49s and .61 DPs. Like and good Englishman, they liked a good drink to get going ( ) which was a delicate balance between just enough fuel and too much......


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RE: RE: Ever been injured by a spinning prop? Yes or No - 2/7/2004 4:50:58 PM   
OldRookie


 

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Status: offline 		I have been bit by props a few times over the years with only a small amount of blood lost, but then the bad accident happened.
I had started my OS 46FX, had it idling and ready to go when I realized that I had forgotten my sunglasses in my car, so I just shut everything down and got them. I came back, and started the plane. The engine was idling kind of fast when it started and I moved the throttle stick to low, but no response. Forgot to turn the receiver on. Well you guessed it, I put my hand through the prop reaching for the on/off switch. It took 50+ stitches to sew everything together.
Sense then I have bought a plane restraint, and use it religiously. I also have a routine for starting that I always use. Anytime that I am interrupted during the starting procedure, I go back to to the start of my routine. I think any time your regular starting routine is interrupted or different than usual, there is a chance of something bad happening.
Not having a plane restraint had nothing to do with my accident, but is something that I think everyone should have and use. This just eliminates one more thing that can go wrong.

Greg

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RE: Ever been injured by a spinning prop? Yes or No - 2/7/2004 5:03:33 PM   
iflynething


 

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Status: offline 		I was in the breaking in process of my new OS 46AX....and I though, I just might start it w/ out the starter and just move my finger out of the way real fast....well reall fast isn't fast enough. I got a bad cut on my right index finger and is bled for like 2 hrs. I never pass out like when I have had other incidents (like a broken bone) but this one....oh buddy......I didn't know what was going to happen....I about passed out....

I went COMPLETLY blind for like 5 seconds. I could see the light but NOTHING ELSE. It wasn't a complete black out.....

But, I should've learned that I should't do this because when I was breaking in another engine on my Superstar my dad had to start it (or whoever) over by hand ( I didn't have the starter when I first started) so he got a nasty cut on his hand too!!

I learned that a starting prop is very powerful and I shouldn't do it again....DUH!!!.....Use that darn starter or a "chicken stick.!!"

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RE: Ever been injured by a spinning prop? Yes or No - 2/7/2004 5:49:15 PM   
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Those that haven't WILL !
Those that have, Shouldn't !

Yup, did mine due to lack of sleep.. on a DeBolt Pursuit with SuperTigre .56 turning a PlasticKote Prop.. What's a PlasticKote Prop......just think of it as a spinning butcher knife.
At 12K rpm it took 13 slices (that could be found) paper thin off my fore finger of my right hand but not to the bone and just trimmed the finger nail down a bit. At a 40 degree angle the finger looked like it had been trimmed to a point in a pencil sharpener.

No stitches, just washed and scrubbed with liquid soap, gauze and a metal finger guard..
Was healed over in a month and numb on the very end for many years though now you can't tell it even happened.

Respect that prop and use a starter or a chicken stick. Your pit man or helper is essential
don't even think about starting one with out your helper. With any new plane or new helper it is essential that a rehearsel of the starting proceedures be preformed. You and they must understand perfectly what has to be done. Do not ASSUME that they know what to do.

A leather glove and a shop rag is also part of my flight kit even with a chicken stick.

Where is your first aid kit...do you even have one.....???????


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RE: Ever been injured by a spinning prop? Yes or No - 2/7/2004 5:58:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		A post like this makes me wonder if there is a lawyer lurking out there looking for a lawsuit.
Maybe using this post as evidence in his twisted plan .
Just something to think about.

Lou

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RE: RE: Ever been injured by a spinning prop? Yes or No - 2/7/2004 6:43:58 PM   
ballgunner



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Status: offline 		Started twisting props by hand in the thirties. If you forgot to retard the spark in those days you could get bit. Fortunately most of the engines in the days before the Doolings and McCoys didn't have enough power to really do a lot of damage but they could backfire very easily and leave a nasty bruise. There was no plug igniter to worry about, needle valves were almost all behind the prop but you still had to reach close to advance the spark. Most spark advance levers were bent back to give you some advantage but they didn't come that way from the factory. Post WWII with the advent of the glow plug and electric starters the damage now is from reaching through or over a spinning, razor edged plastic, high RPM cutting tool. Sure I've got a few scars but over the years just 5 stitches total. Prewar no cuts at all.

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RE: RE: Ever been injured by a spinning prop? Yes or No - 2/8/2004 1:15:35 AM