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How does MVVS rate - 2/14/2004 12:56:25 PM   
SeacretsOceanCity



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How does MVVS compare to OS. Looking to explore new ground

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RE: How does MVVS rate - 2/14/2004 1:17:56 PM   
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Let me go out on a limb and kick open a crate o' monkeys....

I've been an OS fan for a lot of years. Their stuff was always a notch above many of their
competitors where fit and finish, ease of use, reliability, etc, et al was concerned.

The tide has changed somewhat however, and much of the OS product line seems to have merged
with, and become difficult to distinguish from the cheap, knock-off chinese throwaway's. The main difference
being at the checkout. (price)

MVVS is a fairly old company that is building superb quality motors. Easily able to outperform OS in any
comparison IMO. The workmanship, metallurgy, handling and performance are all A#1 first class, at a
price that isn't cheap, but commensurate with what you're getting. I'd place MVVS firmly in the Rossi, Webra
quality class.

It's really a matter of what you need. If you're new to the hobby...buy a cheap knock-off engine to learn the
ropes with. If you've been around awhile...buy the MVVS.

My $0.02

'Race

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RE: How does MVVS rate - 2/14/2004 1:48:05 PM   
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Yo, 'Race....

....aren't the exhaust systems extra for the MVVS ?

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RE: How does MVVS rate - 2/14/2004 1:52:17 PM   
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Yeah Dave...

They sure are. I don't have a problem with that though. Why pay for a muffler you aren't going
to use? I'd rather take my Zloty's (or whatever they use in CZ) and put it into the pipe.

PS: I thought for SURE you'd be here to sing the praises of OS. <GGGG>

'Race

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RE: How does MVVS rate - 2/14/2004 1:59:16 PM   
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Some of the MVVS's come with a "dustbin muffler" the silent ones are $27.27 and are well worth the price and are amazingly light, as to the engine quality, they take a back seat to no one. The silent mufflers are a beautiful gray, maybe powder coated. Dar Zeelon or Pe Reivers would know that for certain.

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RE: How does MVVS rate - 2/14/2004 2:04:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RaceCity

Yeah Dave...
PS: I thought for SURE you'd be here to sing the praises of OS. <GGGG>
'Race


I still hold the ringed FSR's dear to my heart....the new OS's are junk.

I've been looking at the MVVS .77, the one with the switchable around
cylinder....that's pretty cool.... I like a rear piper.

I like the Rossi's in the half inchers....


Dave.

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RE: How does MVVS rate - 2/14/2004 2:11:13 PM   
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I've got an MVVS .61 with a full length pipe in a pattern plane.

THAT Beatch will swing a LOG of a prop (13-9), and idle like an electric.

Instantaneous transition.

The .77 is supposed to be a real killer in the same size case, and a tad lighter than
the already lightweight .61.

Great stuff man.

HOBBSY: Those nice, velvety finished pieces are sand blasted. I have an MVVS header with the
treatement, and one without. No functional difference, but for appearance points? The sand blasted
stuff is slick!!

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RE: How does MVVS rate - 2/14/2004 3:39:27 PM   
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Ok,I will try one,where can I get one at a nice price.Need one for a shrike and a small one for the wonder. I have had OS for 10+ yrs I do love them ,have never failed me just looking to explore and or move up.

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RE: How does MVVS rate - 2/14/2004 3:44:52 PM   
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Try Morris Hobbies.

Just Engines in the UK is another reputable source, but the exchange rate is so poor right
now that you're not going to save anything by going there.

'Race

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RE: How does MVVS rate - 2/14/2004 4:46:47 PM   
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Hey Dave, the MVVS .91 is the same exact size as the .61 and the .77.

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RE: How does MVVS rate - 2/14/2004 5:16:21 PM   
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Hi SecretsOceanCity
I have to agree with all of the good things the others are saying about MVVS. Only thing I'd add is, don't use fuel with more than 5% nitro if it's a standard MVVs engine you buy. If I remember correctly they are 'timed' for 0% to 5% and need to be modified if you use more than this. I mention it because I understand that it can be difficult to get low nitro fuel in some places in the USA.

best of luck

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RE: How does MVVS rate - 2/14/2004 8:39:17 PM   
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Runway is correct.

The MVVS just isn't gonna play well on anything over 5% nitro unless you start shimming
the head.

FAI and Low nitro fuels aren't terribly common in HS's, but most all of the leading fuel mfrs
offer the product, and your dealer will have no problem ordering a case (usually 4 gals) for you.

You'll be surprised that you can get a case of Omega FAI (for example) for under $40.00. That's
a good bit of flying!

Good Luck!

PS: You might be close enough...why not call Stan at S&W in Eastern PA and check him out? His FAI
fuel is <$7.00/gal. www.s-whobby.com

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RE: How does MVVS rate - 2/14/2004 9:44:25 PM   
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I have 2 MVVS 77's one in a pattern ship with the long tuned pipe and one
in a Widebody 60 with the shorter tuned muffler. They run great on 10%
Powermaster. They have instant throttle response and a lot of power
especially at lower rpm's. Pulls hard in verticals. Clarence Lee did a review
in RCM and praised the 77, especially it's low rpm pulling power. He used 10%
fuel for the tests. Morris Hobbies in The Woodlands right outside Houston is the
USA distributor.

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RE: How does MVVS rate - 2/14/2004 10:35:02 PM   
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The postman has just dropped a new MVVS 91 into my sweaty palms - girlfriend bought it for my b-day. I've been slobbering and drooling over it all day: the finish and build quality is superb. I've had a few OS motors of various sizes over the years and they are excellent, but the engineering of the MVVS looks way ahead. Have lined up a Protech Christen Eagle for it and can't wait to get it fired up.

I've been told that I'm "a bit sad" wetting myself over a nodel engine, but hey: sometimes people don'y appreciate the finer things in life.

Just Engines recommend no nitro for this motor - straight fuel is readily available in the UK but if you can't buy it, get the ingredients. Without the nitro it's not rocket science.

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RE: How does MVVS rate - 2/14/2004 11:55:03 PM   
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It's really a matter of what you need. If you're new to the hobby...buy a cheap knock-off engine to learn the
ropes with. If you've been around awhile...buy the MVVS.


Here in the Netherlands MVVS is a 'cheap knock-off engine'. They are fairly cheap here I bought one cause they are