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AERO HAWK HELI SUCKS - 2/18/2004 12:41:38 AM   
helisfreak



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Status: offline 		I am sorry for my cursing! But they do suck, and very badly. I just got my aero hawk today, at first i was very satisfy with what it come with. But then I was very dissapointed after I FOUND out that rc-expert.com sell me the gws reciever as i wanted. But the problem is that thing is not even WORKING. At first it freak me the out because it not working at all, the whole helicopter. So i use my own JR reciever, then everthing response (servo, main motor) BUTTTTTTT.... the darn TAIL MOTOR WOULD NOT SPIN. As i read some of the post in this forum, i did all the check, found out that the tail rotor run FINE, but the pcb is not giving it any power.

By the way, I found out this forums after i order my aerohawk.

ps: DAMN IT, im just a teenager that love rc toy (helicopter) and just wanted a damn helicopter that can fly and kinda cheap in my budget.

Can anyone tell me, what can I do now? What if i want to go separate? What do I need and what KIND? and where to buy? I am NEW at this, so if u can please go detail on what to buy because if u say blahblah.. then i am not going to get it.

and again.. please excuse my language... just so mad......
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RE: AERO HAWK HELI SUCKS - 2/18/2004 1:34:04 AM   
smokingcrater


 

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Status: offline 		swap the channels for tail and main, does the tail spin then?

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RE: AERO HAWK HELI SUCKS - 2/18/2004 1:44:19 AM   
helisfreak



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Status: offline 		The tail motor work fine, I think the PCB is trash.

ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE TO GET ALL THE PART TO GO SEPARATE?

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RE: AERO HAWK HELI SUCKS - 2/18/2004 1:50:00 AM   
bluesilver30


 

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Status: offline 		"ps: DAMN IT, im just a teenager that love rc toy (helicopter) and just wanted a damn helicopter that can fly and kinda cheap in my budget. "


there in lies the problem. there is no such thing as an rc heli that you can just pick up and fly. i have a hummingbird, and i say i put in 3 hours of work into it for every hour of flying. it was a lot more time when i first got it.

first of all, you dont need to go seperates, you dont need to go mod it, you dont need to do anything. it will fly as is. there are many things that could be causing a problem. maybe you got a type 1 tx and have your rx wired for type 2? maybe your throttle trim is set too high so the esc is not arming. maybe you have a loose wire. maybe there some soder came undone on the motor. maybe you did get a bad part.

it's really trial and error. if you can, take pictures of your setup and we will be able to help you more. but you really have to understand that these things are not toys. they are models, and especually true for micro's they are a very new thing. we are the pioneers for these small electronic heli's, and as for all pioneers of something new we have it the hardest. just stick with it, use the boards such as here, runryder.com, and rcgroups.com to help.

although you got a RTF heli so you should be flying soon then me, consider this. i spent about a month setting up my helicopter before my first flight. i recieved a bad battery when i ordered it, and so i did so much to try and fix it. i trouble shooted every single system on my heli. it payed off though, because now i know exactly how these heli's work and what i can do to improve them. just be patient, you'll get it flying.

there is no such thing as a broken heli . everything can be fixed.

< Message edited by bluesilver30 -- 2/17/2004 8:52:47 PM >

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RE: AERO HAWK HELI SUCKS - 2/18/2004 2:31:06 AM   
helisfreak



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Status: offline 		Thanks for the reply and sorry about my wording, I know this is not a regular toy what you would find in k-mart or wal-mart store. I own some nitro rc car and some electric flying wing. Maybe Im a little over reacted about this. I check swap the main rotor wire with the tail rotor and 1/3 throttle and the tail running fine. I order a gws 4 channel reciever, which come with a pair of crystal, the one on the RX is a micro crystal already been solder to the reciever... So i took the TX crystal and stick it on my radio. But im not sure if it Type 1 or type 2, but how to I know that if it 1 or 2? But let forget about the reciever problem... Because i have 2 other reciever that I use to test it. I connect the power supply from the pcb to the reciever and the other wire coming from the pcb to the throttle right. Radio throttle trim is in center, when i throttle up.. the main motor run fine and it even take off when i give full power. But the tail motor don't move at all.

This is the gws reciever mounted on the side of the pcb board.... this the original of how it look like when i got it. There is one black and white wire come from the pcb board pluck to the battery on the reciever. And there is the other wire pluck to channel 1 on the reciever. And the 2 middle slot are for servo.


And this is the pcb board.



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RE: AERO HAWK HELI SUCKS - 2/18/2004 3:33:22 AM   
Super-Hornet


 

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Status: offline 		Hi helisfreak

U said:
There is one black and white wire come from the pcb board pluck to the battery on the reciever. And there is the other wire pluck to channel 1 on the reciever. And the 2 middle slot are for servo.

What about your tail rotor channel? (Should be channel 4). U never mention about a wire plug for tail.

BTW... Mode 1 means your Throttle is on the right stick. Mode 2 throttle on the left stick.

Super-Hornet

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RE: AERO HAWK HELI SUCKS - 2/18/2004 3:41:22 AM   
Imho



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Status: offline 		Could this be a gyro setup problem?

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RE: AERO HAWK HELI SUCKS - 2/18/2004 3:45:40 AM   
darkside212


 

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Status: offline 		Hi helisfreak

U said:
There is one black and white wire come from the pcb board pluck to the battery on the reciever. And there is the other wire pluck to channel 1 on the reciever.


" And the 2 middle slot are for servo. " incorrect

CH1-aileron
ch2-elevator
ch3-throttle
ch4-rudder

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RE: AERO HAWK HELI SUCKS - 2/18/2004 3:52:57 AM   
Super-Hornet


 

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Status: offline 		Hi darkside212

I think his/her TX is mode 1. My TX was mode 1 and the connection is such a way that Channel 1 is for Throttle. Ch3 is for Aileron.

Super-Hornet

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RE: AERO HAWK HELI SUCKS - 2/18/2004 4:07:29 AM   
bluesilver30


 

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Status: offline 		i have a jr radio and a gws reciever, and my channels are all kinds of messed up.

1=throttle
2=pitch or roll
3=pitch or roll (i forget which is which)
4=tail

also my tail channel is reversed.

im not familiar with the pcb so i cant help you out too much. i used the hummingboard. someone should be able to help you figure this out though. just try every combination possible for your board and your rx (that's what i did when i set up for the first time, trial and error.)

you will get it, hopefully sooner than later. good luck!

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RE: AERO HAWK HELI SUCKS - 2/18/2004 4:11:22 AM   
helisfreak



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Status: offline 		OMG... I AM SO CONFUSE right now... OK... the only electronic thing I HAVE for my aero hawk is a GWS RECIEVER AND A BOARD.. whhich i do believe is a mixing board? is that the GYRO to? or I'm im missing some stuff???


here is more detail picture on how it hooked up....



here is the gws reciever....



and here is the other side of it, where it lable 1,2,3, 4/B

which now im not sure if it mean 4/B = For battery or channel 4 OR BATTERY...


and here is the MAIN BOARD and the only board..... is this board inlcude everything> mixing and gyro??? that what I am not sure... BUT there is 2 wire coming out of it.... 1 wire wire has 1black and 1white.. which it was originaly pluck to the (4/B) slot on the reciever... and the other wire.. which is red,black,white is PLUCK to channel 1 on the reciver... And i don't think there is any more other wire for the TAIL.. the tail motor only has the power wire.. which came from the PCB board.... just like how the main motor is connected to the pcb to..



AND YES... i have a Type 1 radio.. where throttle is on the LEFT...

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RE: AERO HAWK HELI SUCKS - 2/18/2004 4:34:47 AM   
Super-Hornet


 

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Status: offline 		Hi helisfreak

Ok... I a bit of confuse here.. U said your throttle is on the left stick right? Well that is Mode 2.

Your wire should be White is the signal. Black is ground or -ve. Red is for +ve.

Your PCB is definitely a Mixer but with gyro or not i not sure. The Black/White wire is for Tail Channel. The Red/White/Black is for Throttle Channel and also supply power for your RX. U have another one with Red/Black right? That one is to your battery.

Your Tail motor wire is connected to the PCB. So do the main motor also. The rest of Channels for gyro.

The above is based on:
Right Stick Up/Down = Channel 1
Right Stick Left/Right = Channel 2
Left Stick Up/Down = Channel 3
Left Stick Left/Right = Channel 4

If yours is different (Based on what TX u have), just swap whatever is necessary.

BTW... 4/B means it is channel 4 and also for battery.

Super-Hornet

< Message edited by Super-Hornet -- 2/18/2004 12:38:38 PM >

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RE: AERO HAWK HELI SUCKS - 2/18/2004 4:46:38 AM   
helisfreak



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Status: offline 		I kinda got it now.. but i think im missing a GYRO??? hahahaa.. this is halarious.... but the guy who sell me this said this is eerything i need.. when he sell me he said it RTF.... except servo.... and radio... because i said i already got those.... omg... SHOOT ME>..
Yes.. there is a red/black that go to the battery....

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RE: AERO HAWK HELI SUCKS - 2/18/2004 4:51:39 AM   
Super-Hornet


 

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Status: offline 		hi helisfreak

Your Aerohawk may follow another convention such as the White/Red/black is for tail channel and the white/black is for main motor. U have to look up your instruction