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    RE: Shockflyer Acc?????? - 4/8/2004 1:03:13 AM   
    wind junkie



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    RE: Shockflyer Acc?????? - 4/8/2004 2:26:06 AM   
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    Status: offline     		Excellent Wind, These photos will help immensely. I checked with H-L today, my Nippy and Li-Poly's are on the way. With a little luck I hope to get that delivery tomorrow, if so I will start building this weekend. I have been reviewing the instructions and have a question. I have the Edge like yours, On slide 8 in the instructions there is a difference in measurement for the edge to the extra. What does that measurement refer too? Are those marks for wing location? Also I see you centered the Aluminums tube, did you make that cut before or after you built the fuse?
    I have tons of Q's, my local hobby shop guy claims this is a tough plane to build. His buddy has built 5 and says it still takes him approx 6 hours. I have been warned it is easy to F*** up when building this kit. ALSO!!! can I fly my Nippy setup with a 3 cell Lipoly?(340mAh) I bought 2 cell packs but My local Hobby guy bought 3 cell packs. (i'm just tying to keep up with the Jone's)

    Here is a shot of a Hobby Electronics sub micro next to a Hitec 55. Check out the size difference. I'll report back with the weight soon
    I will update with some construction photos soon
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    RE: Shockflyer Acc?????? - 4/8/2004 2:57:21 AM   
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    Status: offline     		Zibob, I would think the Hitec 55's would be a better chioce. I will be trying the Hobby Electronics HE 490 servo on my shocky I just posted a comparison photo. I got them from Bob at Balsapr.com.

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    RE: Shockflyer Acc?????? - 4/8/2004 4:44:32 AM   
    wind junkie



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    ORIGINAL: whackinski

    I have been reviewing the instructions and have a question. I have the Edge like yours, On slide 8 in the instructions there is a difference in measurement for the edge to the extra. What does that measurement refer too? Are those marks for wing location? Also I see you centered the Aluminums tube, did you make that cut before or after you built the fuse? ...

    ALSO!!! can I fly my Nippy setup with a 3 cell Lipoly?(340mAh) I bought 2 cell packs but My local Hobby guy bought 3 cell packs. (i'm just tying to keep up with the Jone's)



    Seb,

    Slide 8 wants you to mark a line 5 mm in front of the seam for the two fuse pieces. This line will be where the rear edge of the "window" in the wing aligns. They should have put some verbage to say "look ahead to next slide".

    I made the cuts before I assembled the fuse and test fit the tube in each fuse piece. Fit isn't really critical as epoxy will fill voids. Don't use too much of course.

    I flew my nippy 0808 on 3 cells once. It's really difficult not to hit the ceiling on big loops with this config and nearly impossible for me to do nice low rollers near the floor with 3 cells, as throttle is way too touchy. I would reserve this only for outdoors, or maybe to get better waterfalls. My waterfalls with this plane really suck compared with my e-sledge. Not really sure why.

    If I get some time, I'll move the motor back, and move the battery forward to try to get the mass closer to the CG.

    Take your time and build it right. It flys smooth and "big" in small spaces and will make you smile when you get it right.

    Neat little servo. Must be cheaper than the Cirrus, I bet.

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    RE: Shockflyer Acc?????? - 4/8/2004 5:01:54 AM   
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    what prop are you using on the shocky?

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    RE: Shockflyer Acc?????? - 4/8/2004 5:24:00 AM   
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    RE: Shockflyer Acc?????? - 4/8/2004 5:29:02 AM   
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    RE: Shockflyer Acc?????? - 4/8/2004 5:31:17 AM   
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    RE: Shockflyer Acc?????? - 4/8/2004 6:04:36 PM   
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    ORIGINAL: zibobman

    hi,

    well what about the AXI brushless on the shocky, no one is talking abt it lately,is that because its out of stock?

    zibobman


    The AXI motors work great and most all of the ones I have sold have gone out with the AXI 2208/24 or the AXI 2280/26. There is no issue with stock on these as of 4/8.

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    RE: Shockflyer Acc?????? - 4/14/2004 1:50:40 AM   
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    Status: offline     		Hey there Wind, I finally got the last thing I need to build my Shocky the jeti speed controller. The Nippy motor came with very little documentation. The speed controller came with less. I have been reading about soft start ( disableing it) and adjustable voltage cutoff set points, where do I get the how to's? also, There is no wiring diagram or schematic. I dont want to hook it all up wrong and toast it. My real concern is which lug is red , black, or yellow, on the Nippy Im' assuming yellow is the center lug. Another Q Are JST connectors OK? I have a bunch of male and female JST's already. I have been marking the neg side with a sharpee as an added form of reverse polarity protection. Still another Question. How long are the leads from your S.C. to your Nippy? should I add wire or keep the stock lenght?

    Building my nippy this Weekend!! I'm Psyched!!

    Whack!!

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    RE: Shockflyer Acc?????? - 4/14/2004 4:04:02 AM   
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    Status: offline     		I just flew my shock flyer for the first time today. There was quite a bit of wind outside but I couldnt wait any longer. I have mine set up with a AXI brushless and a Jeti 18 amp ECS. I had a 3 cell lipoly and it was too much power so I put a 2 cell 1500 mah on it and was very happy with the power. I am hoping that it will be a little more fun when the wind is calm.

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    RE: Shockflyer Acc?????? - 4/14/2004 5:31:28 AM   
    wind junkie



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    Status: offline     		The speed controller can be wired any way you like to the motor without hurting anything. The only issue is it may run backwards. If it does, just reverse any two (of the 3) wires and it will run the other way.

    I wouldn't recommend changing any lengths of wire from the SC to the motor or RX. I put an extension in my RX throttle lead once, and that gave the RX really bad jitters. Extra SC wire I think would also be bad to the motor. My stock Jeti wires are about 3 or 4 inches long. Extra wire in general is not a good thing, so try to keep every run short. No need to cut the stock lengths, but don't add extensions if you can help it.

    I don't know if the Jeti has a programmable soft start. I use a Jeti SC on my e-sledge with the Nippy, and it's fine the way it is. I noticed with my Phoenix 10 as supplied, it was way too slow on the throttle up, so I disabled the soft start as per the Castle Creations directions, and it was much better.

    Your JST connectors are good. Lots of folks are using them with no trouble around here.

    That's great news Fire Medic. Welcome to the club.

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    RE: Shockflyer Acc?????? - 4/14/2004 1:27:17 PM   
    whackinski



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    Status: offline     		Thanks again Wind, I will post some construction photos when I start the project. I have not picked up the aluminum tube yet, I was considering the technique for installing a brushless described on Hobby-Lobby's website. They reccomend using a 3/32" plywood disk mounted in the fuselage and screwing the motor to it. I will decide when I get to the local Hobby shop, depending on which he has in stock, the K&S tubing or the lite ply. If he has both I will grab both. I can imagine I will need several repairs on this plane as it will be my 3D trainer aircraft.

    Medic, Thanks for your info. I am setting up my shocky up like WIND did with a Nippy 0808 and an 8 amp speed controller. One of my buddy's has a shocky and is waiting to see how mine flys before he buys his gear. The word is your setup is the top shelf. After a long full throttle run does the motor or speed control feel Hot?
    Can you post some photos?

    Whack!

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    RE: Shockflyer Acc?????? - 4/14/2004 5:58:49 PM