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RE: Bad advice to buy: CENTURY JET MFG - 3/21/2004 1:54:27 AM   
Dragondawn



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From: Hill Top, UNITED KINGDOM
Status: offline 		Hi Mustang51, no worries, no offence taken. I'm just getting really wound-up with my Top Flite P-47 project as a whole; I read as many reviews/opinions as I could about the TF kit before I bought one and everybody said they were problem free... not so mine! Almost every joint either needs sanding or, more likely, shimming with thin balsa to get it to fit Sorry, getting off topic now.

Anyway, I should apologise if my reply was a little reactionary - I hope we're mates again

Looks like Kmot and myself have a lot in common LOL. Didn't someone once say "Believe nothing, question everything!"?

If I can get my money back (or most of it) I think I'll buy some Unitracts instead...

Take care guys,

Steve

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RE: Bad advice to buy: CENTURY JET MFG - 3/21/2004 2:00:04 AM   
Mustang51


 

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Status: offline 		RGR that DD. Good luck !

-Mustang51

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RE: Bad advice to buy: CENTURY JET MFG - 3/21/2004 2:33:55 AM   
fockewulf37


 

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Status: offline 		All these post bad mouthing CJM. Once again I have had over 10 sets of their gear, and will buy them again.
I always have had prompt service if any part was needed. I even build for other people and have probably installed another 15 sets all worked without a hitch.
I am flying my 40lbs Zero on them. Its 3 years old and no gear problems yet. But I'll keep you posted.
Oh" by the way I also have a Meister Scale 109 that is 8 years old with the same gear in them. The plane has over 250 flights on it also........

Ty

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RE: Bad advice to buy: CENTURY JET MFG - 3/21/2004 2:39:37 AM   
LDM


 

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Status: offline 		sorry guys totally disagree, check my post on P40 90 degree gear, major problems with Robart, no responce , no timely concern and I had federal expressed the gear back with the intent to get them fixed to make a contest date , no luck . Only CJ for me in 120 aand under size planes and if you have doubts, put them side by side , one is a toy and one is realy gear .My first CJ was a p47 , i was so elated I emiled CJ with my comments . I had only bought Robart based on magazines and mideless zombe who only use what the so called expesrt say .Yes these same experts in the mags are just as bad as the Mags . If you like toy set screws, paying $79 dollars foe ok struts , then having to drill them to work BUY ROBART .But unlike the others please please try to view both , pick them up , feel the differance , see how they work.yep noone is perfact and maybe you got a sloppy gear but I never have

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RE: Bad advice to buy: CENTURY JET MFG - 3/21/2004 2:47:21 AM   
juvatwad



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Status: offline 		The fact that you and a few others who have posted here sing only praise for CJM points out the problem: they sell an inconsistent product with inconsistent service. I have owned four sets:

1)Pica FW: gear couldn't handle a plane weighing 10 lbs (my first CJM purchase about 9 years ago)

2)TF P-47 (1/7 scale): poor machining, "wobbly" (I didn't build the plane and the gear came already installed)

3)GSP Hellcat: cylinder leak after 10 flights or so. I returend them for repair, talked to the CJM folks on the phone after the gear were repaired to give my payment info, then didn't see the gear arrive for another 3-4 weeks. The only reason I received them was because I made another 3 phone calls, during one of which they admitted they couldn't find my gear. When they did locate them, they shipped 2nd day UPS. Unfortunately, the CJM rotators are the only available option in this scale right now (please don't even mention the Robart 615's!).

4)TF FW: Again, the only option in this scale right now. They haven't flown yet, but we'll see.

The bottom line is this: Every pair I have used has required repair, the most common of which is replacing that piece of sh-- plastic barb on the cylinder at over $2 a pop. Those things break if I look at them wrong. The only Robart gear I have ever had a problem with are the 615's, which are pure unadulturated ****e. Those who have had zero problems with CJM are truly fortunate....

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RE: Bad advice to buy: CENTURY JET MFG - 3/21/2004 3:02:06 AM   
Richard L.



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ORIGINAL: juvatwad

the most common of which is replacing that piece of sh-- plastic barb on the cylinder at over $2 a pop. Those things break if I look at them wrong.


I must be lucky because I have yet to break one of those plastic barbs (knock on wood). They do look a little fragile. If you tend to break these barbs using the same thumb and fingers you use to fly and land your planes with, then this should tell something.

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RE: Bad advice to buy: CENTURY JET MFG - 3/21/2004 3:11:06 AM   
juvatwad



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Status: offline 		What's it supposed to tell me? That I don't have little girl hands? That you're a _______? Not only do my thumb and fingers fly my models well, they also perform heart surgery.

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RE: Bad advice to buy: CENTURY JET MFG - 3/21/2004 3:18:25 AM   
YellowAircraft



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Status: online 		Richard,

I'm glad you're having luck with your equipment. I have to ask, though; does the fact that the cardiac surgeon isn't having luck--and is vocal about it--mean that you should kick it up to a personal-attack level? Do you really feel that strongly about your landing gear?

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RE: Bad advice to buy: CENTURY JET MFG - 3/21/2004 3:20:46 AM   
afterburner



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From: Moseley, VA, USA
Status: offline 		Unfortunately, I did'nt see this thread when posting my CJM ordeal in the Jets forum. Thanks to bomberboy for sending me here. I'm moving my post here. After reading the four pages of posts in this thread, I thought leaving in the last sentence of my original post might get a chuckle.


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I placed an internet order with CJM over two weeks ago(3/5/04) for a small $20.00 item. I got an immediate automated e-mail response confirming the order. After about ten days, I e-mailed them to find out when this item might get shipped. Three days later after no response, I send the e-mail again and state that I sent the e-mail three days before and a response would be nice. Next day I get a response saying that they did'nt get my first e-mail and that they would get back to me the next morning letting me know what's going on with my order. That was two days ago?

The reason I'm posting this is to get some feedback to see if this is normal procedure for this company or am I just lucky. I realize that I did'nt order an expensive jet but all I'm asking for is an e-mail as to when my stuff might get shipped. So, has anybody had similar problems?

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RE: Bad advice to buy: CENTURY JET MFG - 3/22/2004 1:01:59 AM   
LDM


 

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Status: offline 		Inconsistant with CJ ? Three sets over 6 years with no problems, you call that inconsistant .Frankley I dont care what you buy or how you spend your money . I have seen to many angry post and there is so many more important things to worry about in life .
I am glad you love Robart, I love Century and that is why this is America . I also wish all of you the best of luck with what ever gear you choose , just remember dont post your opions here because people would rather tell you your wrong instaed of learning about your experience with each gear . For those of your listening that are true modelers you will find good and bad things with each gear . My suggestion is that when you install your gear ask for help and hope you get good advice and not a sermon on how you bough the wrong gear .
I own Robart and CJ , and like i said I prefer CJ anyday of the week over Robart .However I have Robart gear that with the help of modelers on this great web have given me advice to get them to work .
As opposed to continuing with this negative posting and battle , why dont we try to help the people with there own gear problems. For example if you have the 615 from Robart and they bind its easy to fix.Place plastic Balsa filler on the mounting rails, add clear plastic wrap over the puddy and set your gear in place .Let it dry , remove the gear and the wrap and you shoud have a perfact mold of the mounting rails. Clear rought spots , add your gear back in and watch how smooth they rotates .

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RE: Bad advice to buy: CENTURY JET MFG - 3/22/2004 1:46:00 AM   
rc34074


 

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Status: offline 		juvatwad-

for your top flite fw190 - take a look at the spring air gear www.retracts.com
they have 74 degree gear for the fw190d9. very good gear. i have them on my pica fw190d9 60 size. they hold up to us ham fisted pilots . i gladly include myself in the ham fisted crowd that will never touch century jet again.

ed

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RE: Bad advice to buy: CENTURY JET MFG - 3/22/2004 3:12:03 AM   
cknaack


 

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From: Arlington Heights, IL,
Status: offline 		LDM,

I cannot speak for any of the others that have posted the so called "opinions", but my post was certainly not opinion. It was based on fact and reality, no more, no less.

I believe the spirit of the original post was to make people aware of a situation that was not right. The thread has seen many people stick up for their "side". One thing is for sure, more than one hobby manufacturer needs to improve their customer service and the quality of their product.

Life is too short to worry about this kind of thing. That's the point. Calling out a manufacturers mistakes helps us all question the things that are important, and make an informed decision based on what is known. After all, it is a hobby.

Lighten up, no one is attacking you or your success with CJ. I for one am glad to hear that you are happy. With that said, I'll still stick with Robart, only because it has worked for me.

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RE: Bad advice to buy: CENTURY JET MFG - 3/23/2004 12:44:46 PM   
LDM


 

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Status: offline 		CK i respect your note all I ma saying is taht we get to passionate against each other on this site when we shoudl try to help a person with the gear they have .Look at how many post say , god luck , sucker, hope the sled flys ect , this is not help and you and I dont get paid to endorse any gear .We should all try to help each other with the specific gear that we have and at the same time post the poblem with the gear

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RE: Bad advice to buy: CENTURY JET MFG - 3/23/2004 6:38:14 PM   
Dragondawn



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Status: offline 		Well, on a positive note, I e-mailed Bruce Sanders yesterday and had a very helpful reply from him within seven hours.

After some 'tuning' I have the retracts pretty much working. The sticky suspension has been cured with some oiling & greasing (I get the feeling these things have been sat on a shelf somewhere for quite a while). The perpendicular play has been eliminated by adjustment according to the manual. My only remaing niggle is the 'non-parallel' leg but Bruce says he has some instructions to remedy this too. BTW this last problem is due to the hole in the 'knuckle' (I think that's what they call it), where the strut bolts in, not being round but oval ( ).

Unfortunately one more problem has arisen since 'powering' them up - there is an air leak caused, I think, by the actual (tyre) valve. I'll have to try another one to see if it is that... someone on the street will have a flat tyre by the morning

So at least there's some progress...

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RE: Bad advice to buy: CENTURY JET MFG - 3/23/2004 6:58:19 PM   
MajorTomski



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Status: offline 		The leak in my system was the adapter flange that mated the pressure fitting to the mouse can pressure bottle. I pulled a slight vaccuum on the can and sealed it with CA.

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RE: Bad advice to buy: CENTURY JET MFG - 3/23/2004 7:13:31 PM   
Dragondawn



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Status: offline 		Thanks for that tip MajorTom, I'll have a look at that too

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