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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/7/2004 3:50:42 PM   
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As noted these are not current. Spoke with Darrel before Toledo and suspect comm again next week. Working on some dimensions so I can setup gear mounts soon. Keep the water from leaking and keep those babies from crying. Are you planning on flying at the Nationals???

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/9/2004 9:32:03 AM   
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Luke,

Thank goodness your back I was going into serious withdrawls

So when are you going to do a "How To" book or better yet CD complete with all the pics? I know I'd be willing to fork out a few ducketts for one Heck I see best seller written all over this idea!

Welcome back!!!!!

MV

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/10/2004 2:13:51 AM   
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Man, bunch of Corsair fanatics or what! I have read all of the posts in this thread and I enjoyed them all, John Rood... Corsairjock you make me laugh too! Sorry to disappoint, but NO the old Royal Corsair has not flown. I'm not afraid or anything, it was built to fly. Over the last year the Indian River flying site has deteriorated massively, the runway now has a sinkhole in the middle of it. With new construction going up on all sides, it won't be long and the 5th largest club in the country won't have a flying site at all. A new site is in the works and has been for years now, but working with the city government as meant cutting through mountains of red tape. A site has been selected but it could be 2 years or more away. For the last year I have been flying hand launch electrics. Every tail dragger that is in the .60 size range quickly noses over and violently flips on it's back when landing at the club field, I won't fly under those conditions. So, my determination to make things ready for flight has diminished considerably if not completely. I will continue to build though, so if you would like to follow me along on another project that would be great.

Anyway here are some pictures of an F2G and my observations: The scoop at the top is flat at the bottom (first picture). On the cowl profile you will see s slight curve down in front of the scoop. Next he shows the cowl as being perfectly round, it looks to me that it has a slight curve on the bottom and is flat at the top. Look at the second picture, the center loop over the engine appears to have a bulge at the bottom, look at my reference lines on the picture. Lastly his wing intakes look wrong, I need better pictures of these but they appear to have no bulge on the bottom, see last picture. I have now redrawn the plans for the F2G three times, but all the formers are done. I would like to get a good drawing showing all the dimensions.
Flow, where are you with your F2G?

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/10/2004 8:57:15 PM   
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Luke, glad to see you posting again I'm still lurking around at the moment, but I'll be a regular visitor again soon enough..

Still haven't gotten your Maru Mechanic issue out yet, but hopefully this weekend!

Cheers!

da Stompah

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/11/2004 4:53:31 PM   
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SWEET!!!!!!!

Glad to see you back Luke! Good luck with the new project.

Jeff Stultz

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/12/2004 11:20:53 PM   
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Anybody's calling Flo :-) (??Flow???)

Hey Luke, long time since I last visited RCU for a closer look, only short hits to see if it's still there. Sad to see u leaving, good to see you back again.

My F2g is in the finishing stages (well, the plans are :-)). I now know how big I'll build it, because I found the right engine for it.
It's a modellers dream, a Seidel ST770, 7 cylinder radial, 70ccm, thats about 4.2 for you "inchers". I don't know where or how to post it, but I could place some sound recordings on the net if anyone is interested.

About your scale questions:

  • All my pictures show the bottom of the cowl NOT straight
  • Not shure about the scoop curve, looks slightly curved to me, or just flatened out towards the middle (u know what I mean )
  • The wing profile clearly shows a bulge at the bottom, where the oil cooler units are placed inside the wing, but NO bulge at the outer side of the intakes


There are some more pictures of this section on the web, I couldn't find any drawings either

Cheers Flo

PS: FLO is derived from Floh (means flea), I don't usually FLOW anywhere...

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/13/2004 12:14:39 AM   
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quote:

Anybody's calling Flo :-) (??Flow???)


Haha, I knew it was Flo, I just left it with the W!

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Hey Luke, long time since I last visited RCU for a closer look, only short hits to see if it's still there. Sad to see u leaving, good to see you back again.

Yea, I’m sort of back I guess, It’s probably going to be for a while and then I’ll answer a scale question and I’ll get hit with another, “we love our Corsair’s, all of us that own one and fly it.” You know the answer that has nothing to do with the question!

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· The wing profile clearly shows a bulge at the bottom, where the oil cooler units are placed inside the wing, but NO bulge at the outer side of the intakes

Do you have a picture of this? I’m going to be shaping mine and I can’t find a bulge on any of my pictures.

Look at these pictures, I can't see any bulge on the bottom of the wing at the intake.

On the next picture you can see the bulge on the bottom of the cowl at the center cowl ring.


Thanks Glory and jmodguy!

Dion

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/13/2004 1:09:10 AM   
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hey luke. you gonna sell me the royal corsair?

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/13/2004 9:15:31 AM   
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Ok, I'll try to clarifiy...

in the attached pic, you can see that the bottom of the wing is slightly curved towards the fuselage. The "bulge" I mean is visible in the cross-section I drew into the image (sorry, I can't really draw in Paint). It is there to have enough room for the oil-cooler unit (that's the circle in my cross-section).

Maybe we're talking about different things, but anyway...

The second pic attached shows my Seidel radial, complete with glow harness.

Flo

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/13/2004 11:09:22 AM   
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Very good Flo, we are seeing the same thing. The leading edge on all Corsair models at the fuselage is very thick and round. The plastic modeler has his different, see first picture. It’s the type of picture that was confusing me; plastic models and modelers are not always the best source for scale information.

Man that radial is sweet, I’m totally jealous! You buy that new? How big is the cowl going to be to fit that thing? Also what is the wingspan?

Donnie, if I move this summer, especially to an overseas destination then I will probably put the Royal Corsair up for auction, along with some other planes like my F2G. Anyhoot I’ll let everyone know so they can bid if they are interested. Sound fair?


Dion

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/13/2004 12:42:59 PM   
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You're completely right with the "plastic-point", glad to hear we're thinking in the same lines...

The radial is 10years old, it has never run (well, I ran it now). You can't buy them anymore, it was a one man company producing them until the late nineties. However, this guy lives in Germany and is still around from what I've heard and is willing to provide help where he can do. He produced different types of radials, starting with a little 5-cylinder, the 7-cylinder 4.2, a 9-cylinder 5.8, a big 7-cyl 10.8 (if I'm right) and even some examples of a 14-cyl double row radial...
He didn't produce much more than 200 pieces of each type, and they are really worth gold. I got mine second hand from an old man who had to give up this wonderful hobby...
Despite of waiting in a box for 10 years, the radial started immediatly and didn't stop until I told him to, now that's what I call an engine. You should hear the sound, it's amazing.
They provide plenty of torque, at the moment it swings a Menz 24x8 with ease, it picks up RPM like a racing machine with pump.
The outer diameter is some 23cm (approx 9 inches) this leads me to a scale of 1/5.33 => 93" ws. I could go smaller, but there's plenty of urge and I can keep the wing-loading lower that way, use robart#150 gear a.s.o....

I will have to make a custom exhaust system (scale look of course), what material did you use on the royal??

The pic attached shows the backside with the OS-carburettor mounted to it. It doesn't need a bigger one, 'cause there is only one cylinder firing at once. The prop, by the way, does two revolutions until all the cylinders are fired once. No reduction gear though, it's all done by the valve control system. The valve pushrods are not enclosed, so you can really see the rods and valves moving while it runs...beautiful...

See ya
Flo

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/13/2004 1:21:08 PM   
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Wow, that was a lucky find with that radial. I thought something was up when I did a Google search on it and only one hit came up! I did hear one run in a warbird video clip, where a dude put on an incredible show, very realistic.

For the exhaust I would have it custom built, I saw an add here on RCU for a custom exhaust maker. You would need an aluminum ring, and then it would have to be aluminum brazed. Silicone tubing would work off of the stacks to attach it to the ring.

Dion

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/13/2004 3:04:05 PM   
Florian Kuehni