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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/19/2004 6:32:41 PM

FireBee

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Luke, I sent you email, but it bounced.

I wanted to send you two pics of real flying F4U in my area and a cooler pic for F2G.
Please send me an email.

Mike

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/20/2004 12:41:44 AM

Glorystomper

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Lukeh!

Finally got off my arse and sent you that Maru Mech like I promised oh so many weeks ago

Should be there in a few days.. hope you enjoy it!

Can't wait for this new bird of yours!

Cheers,

da Stompah

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/20/2004 9:32:38 PM

dionysusbacchus

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ORIGINAL: Florian Kuehni

...so I'll make it look right, then it probably is right...

jsut a thought about the measurements: are these measures for the actual inlet area of the oil coolers as viewed from front?

Just another point which I believe is interesting: the bottom cowl flaps are shorter than the ones on the side...

Hi Flo, yes just make it look right! Until we can crawl on one with a tape measure I don't think we can do any better.

Yes on the inlet area, the corners are well rounded.

I noticed that too on the lower flaps, after I got those pictures!

Flo, I need a favor. Can you draw me up a retract arm for my tail wheel plans that won't take up so much room? With the cut down fuselage the original won't fit. Do you still have my plans for the tail wheel?

Thank you! Don't sweat it if you can't or don't want to...

quote:

I sent you email, but it bounced.

I wanted to send you two pics of real flying F4U in my area and a cooler pic for F2G.
Please send me an email.

Mike

OK Mike, those sound great, I'll send you my e-mail.

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Finally got off my arse and sent you that Maru Mech like I promised oh so many weeks ago
Should be there in a few days.. hope you enjoy it!

Can't wait for this new bird of yours!

Cheers,

da Stompah

No rush dude, I told you I was paying for that too! All this talk about Super Corsairs got me inspired, so I'm excited to see how this one turns out too!

Got some updates on the fuselage, got my wood yesterday and immediately started drawing and cutting. All of the fuselage formers and things are 1/8" Lite Poplar Plywood. Things like the fiberglass cowl ring and tail retract mount formers are 3 Ply Birch Plywood. I decided to only use a few things from the kit, I didn't see any point in cutting up good F4U1-D formers. The only parts used from the original kit are: F-10 (last former in the tail), F-27 and F-27A (small parts that form the bottom of the fuselage just at the front of the wing).

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/20/2004 10:00:19 PM

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Think I’ll add some detailed instructions for the wing. This is my method, surly many other ways of doing it are out there, this way works for me though and I can get the wing very straight.

I used most of the original parts for the 1-D wing on my F2G. First you have to make a right and left main spar. Glue them with epoxy; I used the plan as a reference to check alignment.

Next join the main spars with W-31 and the rear spar with W-32.

Draw the centerlines on all the ribs, this is important because it will help with there alignment. The whole wing can be put together without glue!

I drew a line on my workbench to line up the main spar; another line crosses that showing you where the center should be. Using rib W-5 as a reference you want to shim up the rear sub spar until W-5’s centerline is level with the table.

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/20/2004 10:16:26 PM

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Once you get the shims the right height glue the main spar to the table! That’s right, tack it to the table, making sure that both main spars are on the center line in the middle and that the main spar is right on the line going span wise.

I use four small blocks of pine to hold the outer spar tips in alignment. Glue these to the table and to the spar. Start at the center section and start gluing the ribs to the spars, checking that each one is level. This was before jig tabs people, but it’s a fun way to build a Corsair wing, it will really start feeling solid very quickly.

Next the pre cut W-16 wing sheeting can be installed. This is the only part of sheeting the wing that you have to pay strict attention; the trailing edge can be easily warped.

Next add the top sheeting. The ailerons will be cut out next and all the plumbing added.

More later!

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/21/2004 3:40:42 AM

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Decided to do the cowl, I can't decide if I should make a fiberglass mold so I can make more later? Or if I should just glass this thing and clean the foam out? If I damage the cowl having a mold would be nice. I just spun some foam on my drill press. I made the whole thing rounded as the bottom is, then I just went over the top where it's supposed to be flat with some sandpaper. The cowl flaps will be added later.
Go ahead and pick it apart, feedback good or bad is always helpful! Things like this are hard to carve and get perfect.

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Cowl is looking pretty good now. This foam sands so nice, all you need is some plywood on the back and protect the front cowl ring with some masking tape. Then with an aluminum sanding block it will sand out nice.

Fist is the side view, although not a perfect side view you can see that the top is flat and the bottom has the bow in it.

Next is top view, notice how the sides are flat.

In the last picture you can see the flat top and the bow in the bottom, also you can see the front cowl lip and it's shape.

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/21/2004 4:17:46 PM

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Luke,

Your techniques are an inspiration for new to scale guys, like me. I never thought about using the drill press to get FOAM into a clow shape, or the glueing the wing to the board to get them straight and true. Really a pleasure to watch you build.

Hope you won't mind the questions when I get mine on the board... Just finishing up my extra first.

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/21/2004 9:37:23 PM

Florian Kuehni

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I still have your plans, but I don't need them anymore....

nuff joked, here's what I will do soon. The actuator rod can be placed wherever it makes sense to you. The thing has a down lock which is done by a pin.
If you like it, I can send you CAD-data.

Flo

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/21/2004 11:11:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: WarpdSpazm

I never thought about using the drill press to get FOAM into a clow shape...

Hope you won't mind the questions when I get mine on the board... Just finishing up my extra first.

Thanks Ray, glad you're enjoying this build, it is a tremendous help to watch others build that's for sure.

I even use a drill press to turn small aluminum parts!

Ask all you want Ray, always happy to help! Is that a Royal Corsair you have in the box? I can't remember.

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here's what I will do soon. The actuator rod can be placed wherever it makes sense to you. The thing has a down lock which is done by a pin.
If you like it, I can send you CAD-data.

Flo

Do it over and then send me the CAD-data!

I've seen that used before, so I know it works well. One question, will you be building a tail wheel like mine, out of PC board? If so then the attachment point will have to be on the top of the shock post, putting it where you have it will put to much strain on the PC board. Change that and let me see it, OK? Nice looking plans by the way, can't wait to see them! When will you be starting your build Flo? Enough of this planning stuff!

Dion

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/21/2004 11:20:28 PM

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Ted, you snuck that picture in on me, you were one of the first ones to start the F2G craze here on RCU! TF F2G threadFlo was the first I think, he's been working on his plans for over a year I think! Anyway keep up the good work and post pictures as you go, this will be an all F2G thread! Looks like you need to make the extra rudder, it will be 1 7/16" wide at 1/8 scale. Full scale it was 11.5 inches.

Dion

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ORIGINAL: F2G-1

Great minds must think alike !
I'm in the middle of doing the same to my TF.
I've finished the tail feathers, and tonight i'm finishing the top half fuse. (I skipped the wing for now, because I couldnt wait to see how the mods looked, and no retracts yet.) I'll finish the wings before I finish the fuse bottom. I blew up a profile of the F2G and layed it over the plans, reworking only the parts needed. I'll post some pics later.
Good to here from you. BTW, how that other project?

Ted

Heres picture, i'm making new cowl, TF cowl in picture just to get idea of how its going to look.

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/22/2004 2:36:23 PM

WarpdSpazm

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ORIGINAL: dionysusbacchus

Thanks Ray, glad you're enjoying this build, it is a tremendous help to watch others build that's for sure.

I even use a drill press to turn small aluminum parts!

Ask all you want Ray, always happy to help! Is that a Royal Corsair you have in the box? I can't remember.

Dion

I wish it was the case, but no... I have the ::cough::Hangar::COUGHCOUGH::9::arf::coughcough.

I only have a 4'X2' work space in my kitchen. and only about 2 hours a week to work on an a/c OR go flying... I'm planning to change the scheme and add some flaps real gear with doors. Still debating whether to do it military or Cook Cleland's Race 92 FG1-D.... I WILL be doing a corsair Kit as soon as i move - So i figure this will be good practice for flying.

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/22/2004 5:35:45 PM

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Dion,
Glad you like the pic. I added it to the original message, and I knew many would miss it!
Here's my idea on the cowl, in 3 stages. First, I'm going to spin a plug that reflects the bow in the bottom half of the scale cowl. Then, I'll spin a plug that reflects the top contour (pretty much straight) Last, I'll split both of the plugs horizontally, glue them together, then sand and blend the bottom half into the top half where they meet. When I look at scale drawings, I notice from the top view, the lines of the cowl sides are consistant and parallel, wich leads me to believe the 'bow' is confined to the bottom half of the cowl, meeting the top half contour at 3 o'clock and 9 o'cloc, giving the apearance of a uniform cylinder from the top view. Hopefully, this method will eliminate alot of carving, as I have exhausted most of my artistic-freehand-carving/shaping/sanding skills on that damn intake scoop! We shall see! BTW, what kind of foam have you been using?

The canopy on the pict is actually the front windscreen from the TF kit, mated to the rear half of a Great planes P-51 canopy. I cant believe how close to scale it looks! (after some head-scratching and trimming!) How are you planning on tackling the canopy?

Ted

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RE: F2G Corsair Build Sneak Peak!!! - 4/22/2004 7:26:26 PM

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I wish it was the case, but no... I have the ::cough::Hangar::COUGHCOUGH::9::arf::coughcough

I'm planning to change the scheme and add some flaps real gear with doors. Still debating whether to do it military or Cook Cleland's Race 92 FG1-D.... I WILL be doing a