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    RE: ... - 12/14/2006 12:21:45 AM   
    N1EDM



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    Status: offline     		I think that AdamG and I are on the same page. I have mostly glow and I like it, but I am growing to like electric an awful lot for the reasons explained...

    I think that some of you are misunderstanding me. I'm not trying to say that one is better than the other... I'm saying not to ignore one just because of the other....

    My main reason for mentioning this is to demonstrate that the TWIST makes a great electric conversion. I'm sure that there are better ways and combinations out there, but however you do it, the TWIST makes a great electric model, as well as a great glow model.

    I don't want to get this thread off of the Twist to discuss electric, just wanted to discuss the possibilities of electrifying the Twist.

    Bob

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    RE: ... - 12/14/2006 12:56:20 AM   
    Downtrodden


     

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    Status: offline     		Electric, glow or gas...........its flying just the same. I have to agree with Waldo...................cleanup gives you a chance to go over your model with a fine toothed comb. That electric that you're so quick to put away (Adam) is bound to bite you in the rump. I don't think anyone here is offended............keep them posts coming!

    downtrodden

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    RE: ... - 12/14/2006 1:48:58 AM   
    2HI2C


     

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    Status: offline     		You Guys need to move a little further South. Weather in the high 60s and Great for flying. I am a GloBug myself.

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    RE: ... - 12/14/2006 12:39:44 PM   
    Adam G



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    Status: offline     		I am just trying to stir up a little trouble to keep the thread rolling. Plus, any excuse I can find to give Down a bit of a hard time is a plus. We had a long discussion about glow versus electric over one of the best steaks I have ever had when I went to the U.P. I better be careful not to piss him off because I am going to make him show me where the spring Walleye are up there come June.

    Down,

    Do you mean the fact that I don't wipe down the bird I may miss a loose linkage or something when you say it may bite me in the rump? That would make sense. Although I do make it a habit to inspect them pretty throughly in the shop between outings.

    Waldo,

    You certainly are a purist when it comes to this hobby. You have been flying for a very long time, and you still squeeze in every minute you can at the field. That is awesome.

    Adam

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    RE: ... - 12/14/2006 7:42:57 PM   
    Downtrodden


     

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    Status: offline     		Stir away! I think you forgot, Adam, that I began on electrics.........and I agree with everything you said, but................BUT I'm stuck with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dollars worth of dead batteries. I'm still not convinced that the return on your dollar is good enough to make a financial comparison. You pay through the nose for the convenience electric offers. I just figure I'll let guys like you keep paying for the advancements in battery technology and when the price drops to reasonable levels........I'll get back into the electrics. Until then, keep buying them electric birds fellas.

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    RE: ... - 12/14/2006 8:04:23 PM   
    Waldopepperaxel



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    Status: offline     		I don't think this thread could possibly ever end unless they close down RC Universe, Too many friends with the same passion here, We all share the same thing, we all love the T_ _ _ T no matter what power house is used.

    Bottom line is its one crazy plane to have in the hanger, I've never had a plane that is so responsive, fast and slow all in one bird, Highly acrobatic and as easy as a trainer to land, I don't think I've rebuilt a plane as many times as this one either, I have only had to rebuild this one because once your on the edge of the envelope with her, you just have to push it even further, I do anyway. just when I thought i couldn't get any closer to the ground inverted, hmmmmmm how close can I get while snap rolling, or hovering, or knife edging, then lets just see how fast or slow you can do all that as well, can you death spin all the way to the ground from beyond the clouds and pull out just in the nick of time,, Of course you can, but mis judgment will cost you some more glue,,, No Big deal,, its worth the extra spin just to watch the cringing faces of the people looking on, God I love that the sky is endless and so are the capabilities of this bird.

    I have flown many different models and they are all great for one reason or another, like people, every plane has its own character, but this is the plane I always fly the most when ever I am out there. Its by far not the prettiest, not the fastest, not the greatest in aerial Maneuvers, buts a blast for sure...


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    RE: ... - 12/15/2006 1:00:31 AM   
    thebluemax



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    Status: offline     		Like Waldo said, it is a great all around fun airplane, whether it is electric or glow. That is what is great about this hobby.

    Although we have put engines in it between 2 stroke OS-.61 and a Saito .82 4 stroke, you did not need a PHD to figure out what engine you needed for a .40 size plane. Electrics are convienent and no clean up but you need a PHD to figure out what motor/esc/gear box/battery combo. If you make a mistake you will end up with a very expensive lesson. Buy a $20 foam airplane and put $350 worth of batteries and electronics in it.

    Like DownT, I too have lots of money tied up in dead batteries. Mostly from mistakes and the learning process. Without a Watt-meter of some kind you are the road to the school of hard knocks. The other thing with Lipos unless you are very,very careful, one mistake and your house, car, or whatever could go up in smoke. Electrics are fun. I have 5 of them but there is nothing like the smell and clean-up of nitro. I also think glow powered planes seem to fly better.

    Once the motor goes dead on the electrics it seems like they turn into flying bricks. Only 1 of the 5 electrics I have seems to fly like a glow powered plane. The 1 is a balsa/ultracote ARF, three others are all foam and the fifth is a balsa kit. Adam, can you tell any difference in the flying characteristics between your electric and glow powered T***T?

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    RE: ... - 12/15/2006 2:47:39 AM   
    decay


     

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    Status: offline     		Just wondering how long the flights are with a E-Pwr Twist?

    Assuming you dont charge the batt quite full, and of course

    dont discharge it too low. And dont nurse the throttle either.

    Is it possible to go 5 min & still have full pwr?

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    RE: ... - 12/15/2006 2:29:15 PM   
    Adam G



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    My charger charges my lipo's exactly full every time. My speed controls warn me when the batteries reach the lowest safe level by slowly shutting down power. When this happens, I get set up to land. I get 10-12 minutes 3D, and 15 minutes sport flying. You do notice a decline in power towards the end of a charge, but mine is so grossly overpowered, it doesn't matter.

    thebluemax,

    My electric Twist is a .60, and my two glows are .40 so it is hard to make a direct comparison. I would say the .60 Twist does not have quite as much power as my .40 sized OS .61fx Twist, but way more power than the .40 sized with a .46 evolution model. It is plenty. I could prop it for even more power, but then I would drain the batteries faster. This same setup would pull a .40 sized Twist around with more power than the .61. It is a very powerful set up. It would be overkill on the .40, and a bit heavy. It is perfect for the .60.

    Main performance advanages are instantanious response with no spool up time, and precise rpm variation. In a hover one click of throttle will give you about 150 rpm. This is nice for maintaining altitude in a hover. You have precise control of rpm's, great for 3D. That is about it. Other than that, it flies the same.

    Adam

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    RE: ... - 12/15/2006 4:13:41 PM   
    N1EDM



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    Status: offline     		My Twist has an Axi 4130/14 outrunner with a 4S2P 4200mAh pack. I routinely get two 8-10 minute flights out of them, with battery management. I'm not flying it at wild 3D rates which might require full throttle a lot more than I use it.

    I'm using a 13x8 MA wood Scimitar prop (yes, I said 'wood'). The performance is about the same as my APC 13x8. I just prefer wood props. The weight difference is only about 2 grams.

    I'm thinking about experimenting with a 5S 4200 - 5000 mAh pack if I can find one that will fit into the Twist's fuel tank compartment. I'm sure that would curl my lip a little if I can find that.

    There might be a photo of the engine setup and a short write up in Peter Young's RCR "Around The Circuit" column in a couple of months or so.

    I'm still new to electrics and still experimenting, but if you have any more questions about my E-Twist (my name for it), just give a holler.

    Bob

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    RE: ... - 12/15/2006 8:00:53 PM   
    thebluemax



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    Status: offline     		Thanks Adam.
    I agree with everything you say about the instant acceleration, power differences, etc. but how about with the power off? Obviously power off in a hover is no comparison there. You're a gonna with electric or glow. I mean such as gliding or dead stick landings, etc? That is where I am seeing the differences or at least think I do.

    My electric Spacewalker seems to glide and fly dead stick like a glow powered plane. My Alfa Models FW-190 and my GWS ME-109 do not. Maybe it is because they are warbirds and even though they are foam and small sized they are still warbirds and are suppose to fly that way. My Mini-Hawk flying wing is worst than the warbirds. As soon as the power is off she is coming down. The balsa Mini Laser 3-D is better than the warbirds but not as good as the Spacewalker. Maybe it is just me.... (left the door wide open there......)

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    RE: ... - 12/16/2006 11:45:06 AM   
    rccardude04


     

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    Status: offline     		Anybody see the new twist 150 yet?
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