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Cool Power - Nonringed engines - 6/22/2002 4:06:08 PM   
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I see more and more engine reviews for nonringed engines using
Cool Power fuel. I thought this fuel was only recommended for
ringed engines. Has something changed ?
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Cool Power - Nonringed engines - 6/22/2002 5:14:15 PM   
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I run Cool Power 10% in my 0S 1.08 ring, 2/OS .25's and 2/OS .46's non-ringed engines, and have no problems. I have disassembled all the engines the .25 mostly due to combat crashes the .46 to check for peeling. I have found no problems with any of them. I have run them with and without 2 ounces of castor added per gallon, and see no difference. I add it for piece of mind. The .46's probably have had 6 or more gallons run through them and are around 3 years old, still running with no problems. Except for a stupid pluming problem on one that was corrected. I always add after run oil and keep clean.

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Cool Power - Nonringed engines - 6/23/2002 2:39:23 AM   
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Sounds good. I like Cool Power. I use it in all my 4 strokes. I'll
start using it in all my engines.

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Cool Power - Nonringed engines - 6/24/2002 1:55:08 AM   
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What percentage of oil is in Cool Power?

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Cool Power for Everything - 6/30/2002 5:23:51 AM   
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I use 10% Cool Power for every 2c and 4c engine I have. That includes two ABN engines (OS 46FX & Webra 50 Speed) that each have hundreds & hundreds of flights on them. I once put over 60 flights on the OS 46FX in one week on 90 F weather and it still turns a 11x6 prop at 13000 rpm. There is simply no way anyone can tell Cool Power is bad for an engine. In all the ways fuel performance is measured - consistency, anti-rust, lubrication, engine perforance, cleanliness, odor, and cost it is right at the top. I have used it since 97. I use it in my OS 91 Surpass, Rossi 45 RE, Enya 50CX, OS 46SF, 25FX, 15FP, MVVS 49, and all Super Tigre's.

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Cool Power - Nonringed engines - 6/30/2002 6:16:12 AM   
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I switched to Cool Power on my 46FX after I got sick of cleaning up WildCat... Same power, easier cleanup. I’m pretty sure CoolPower is 17% Synthetic... The green fuel is cooler looking than red anyway ;-) Hey do you think they could label their product as being "green" and keep the EPA out of the sport???

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coolpower - 7/10/2002 8:42:08 AM   
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I run 15% coolpower in everyengine I own. I have several fourstrokes, and lots of two strokes. It has 18% total synt. I love coolpower, no messy castor to clean up and I have been flying for 8 years, 5 years with coolpower... and never had a lick of problem with any of my engines...hope this helps. Keep in mind that it won't matter what you run...if you abuse the engines, they will hate you for it...LOL

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Cool Pwr and 4 cyc's - 7/19/2002 11:15:36 PM   
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I've been thinking of running CP in my 4c's. os91 & saito 45. Does the general consensus think this is wise??? Would welcome some opinions regarding this for obvious financial reasons.... The OS seems to be kinda hot after a run...even up near the valve cover, is this normal?????????


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Cool Power question - 7/20/2002 5:46:35 PM   
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Cool Power green fuel is 17% all synthetic oil If you read any of the Morgan Fuel ads in the airplane magzines, they recommend OMEGA for ABC and ABN engines and I would assume AAC and similar constructions. In my experience, this fuel comes up far short of the long term lubrication requirements of these engines. If you are interested in a simple cleanup after flying, this is fine, otherwise, my advice, despite the previous comments would be to use a fuel containing some castor, like Omega, Wildcat (18% total oil, but a synthetic/castor blend at 80% synthetic and 20% castor, and 10-15% nitromethane. For 4-stroke engines, you might consider 18% total oil, either all synthetic or LOW castor, 0-4% total castor of the 18% oil and 15% nitromethane for sport flying. We used to use up to 60% nitromethane for racing and added propylene oxide, nitrobenze and you name it. That, like Cool Power does NOT mean it is for our more modern ABC and ABN engines. If you measure wear over time, you will find that some castor on these engines provides a high film strength layer on the non-force side of the crank, one that often burns most of the way off with synthetics. A lot of modelers have the green and pink fuel as their main or only local hobby shop choice. For the ABC engines and OS 2-strokes (ABN), the pink is a far better choice for long term performance and engine life. There are many commercial fuel choices that are better than this one in my experience. Sorry to disagree, but it is always good to hear BOTH sides and really, ALL sides of the story.

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Cool Power - Nonringed engines - 7/22/2002 3:26:29 PM   
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I have been using using Cool Power since about 89 or so, in all my engines, to date I have never change a piston except in two of my YS 140L which was due to the piston skirt chaffing the cylinder wall a known problem, it run very well I do hover with the YS 53 and the 46FX no problem there either.

I think that you can run whatever fuel you want just be careful on the tuning, if you go to lean you will literally pay the price

Daniel D.

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Cool Power - Nonringed engines - 7/23/2002 5:43:23 AM   
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I use cool power in all my abc engines thunder tiger,os,fox abc and all my four cycle engines with out a problem, I do run the engines fairly rich, enough to see a slight smoke trail while I am flying. But I do not use cool power in my non abc engines, cox old os and fox engines I use omega in them. I have tried coolpower in a couple of non abc os engines and it seem to work fine no over heating or flame outs but only as a test.

I do not use any castor oil in the four cycle engines because of the carbon build up on the piston dome , combustion chamber and back side of the exhaust valve plus you do get some varnish on the valve stems and can cause the rings to stick causing a loss of compression which can cause a loss of power and overheating.

I know some people will disagree and thats fine. Makes the world a more interesting place

Biker

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Cool Power - Nonringed engines - 10/25/2002 7:30:25 PM   
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Just read Morgans add. They make it, they should know. If they say use Omega for non-ringed engines, then I will. Just because it has not caused any problems yet does not mean the mfg does not know what they are talking about. Many flyers at the clubs I belong to run their engines properly (not lean), Cool Power in a properly run engine MAY not cause a problem. I am not willing to take that chance. If you are at the LHS and grabbing fuel, why not grab the Omega? Is there some magnetic attraction to Cool Power? Many new flyers do not have the ear or experience for tuning an engine, thus many are run lean. Omega and others with some castor will help protect the engine in the event of a lean run.

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Cool Power - Nonringed engines - 10/25/2002 11:30:34 PM   
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The reason why I don't grab Omega is one I have never run an engine in a way that would brake it! (17 years)

Two the castor do nothing good to the valve....but if you like degumming them for no reason go ahead

Three Cool Power work, if I was to change for unavailability I would run another all synthetic fuel only, the engine adjustment is what make the engine run!

Easier to clean is a good side effect.

If it did not work I would not be using it, engine are expensive.

Daniel D.

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Cool Power - Nonringed engines - 10/26/2002 12:02:59 AM   
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Way to tell it like it is Dansy. If BDTSR can't adjust a glow engine to run without causing damage. Maybe he should switch to an electric engine.

Biker

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Cool Power - Nonringed engines - 10/26/2002 12:03:12 AM   
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Not sure but I think the oil in Coolpower is pretty much straight Ucon. That oil has been around a long time and as synthetics go it's one of the thinnest and least protective as for as corrosion goes. Klotz is little better. Omega has lots and lots of castor oil I have heard it is as high as 40% castor. Might want to add a couple of ounces of castor to Coolpower and still have less gunk on your plane than Omega would leave behind.