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T-Maxx vs. E-Maxx - 5/5/2004 3:50:11 PM

mojo-maxx

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I'm new to RC world and recently purchased the T-Maxx assuming nitro was the only way to get the type of performance I wanted. Now I've seen some E-Maxx avi's and it looks like it performs as good as the T. Given the noise and the increased level of maintenance, I'm wondering if I should have gone with the E-Maxx.

I would like to hear some opinions on T-Maxx vs. E-Maxx.

Thanks.

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RE: T-Maxx vs. E-Maxx - 5/5/2004 3:55:03 PM

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When my tmaxx was stock I raced my friends emaxx. I beat him pretty good but his batterys may have been low.

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RE: T-Maxx vs. E-Maxx - 5/5/2004 3:59:31 PM

Dale Gribble

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The only E-Maxxes you see that will keep up with or outrun a T are the brushless conversions.

In stock form, the E-Maxx rolls at 30-35mph top speed or so I believe. The T-Maxx is 40+ MPH.

As far as the noise and increased mantenance, those are some +'s of why I chose the Nitro version. I love working on it. That's just a part of the hobby.

Granted an E-Maxx has lower maintenance, but for me, the sounds, smell and realism really add to the experience.

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RE: T-Maxx vs. E-Maxx - 5/5/2004 4:19:27 PM

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which T do you have.the old one or the new one.he ahd to have a brushless conversion adn some fairly decent batteries to outrun the trx 2.5 but i can see you losing if you have the pro .15 version.

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RE: T-Maxx vs. E-Maxx - 5/5/2004 5:00:28 PM

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I have the 2.5 and I must say the speed is quite impressive. I'm still learning on how to fine tune it so I could probably get better performance than I'm getting now.

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RE: T-Maxx vs. E-Maxx - 5/5/2004 5:07:00 PM

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I agree with you Dale, a main part of the appeal for me is the fact its a gas engine and learning how to work with it. Which leads me to a question you could probably help me with. I have my T-Maxx broken in (I followed the break-in procedure to the best of my ability) but in the process I messed around with the idle and the low speed setting on the carb. One of the things I'm having problems with is getting a good idle speed. When its high enough to keep from stalling, it keeps trying to creep forward, when I lower it to keep from "creeping" it usually stalls (especially if I brake). Also, after I have been running it for awhile and it stalls, I sometimes have trouble getting it started again.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

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RE: T-Maxx vs. E-Maxx - 5/5/2004 8:13:29 PM

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lean out the low speed then adjust your idle.then readjust your low back to where ever you want it.

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RE: T-Maxx vs. E-Maxx - 5/5/2004 8:57:17 PM

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Nitro all the way, unless you want to buy stacks of batteries you'll never be able to run hours at a time like you can with a nitro.

I was a big electric fan for a long time, RC10, RC10L, TC3, don't get me wrong they were all fun but after owning a tmaxx I don't think I will ever go back.

Mark

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RE: T-Maxx vs. E-Maxx - 5/5/2004 9:07:39 PM

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I had one of the first E maxxs' in this area and I used to love to take it to the track and kick T Maxx butt with it. The only place a T can outperform an E is in top speed and that can be cured with gearing. A stock E will eat a T's lunch in acceleration and pulling power. One of my favorite things to do with my E was hook it up rear bumber to rear bumper with a T and pull it around like the t was not even running. I've done this with everything from stock T's to twin 21 trucks, electric is just so much quicker you are dragging the nitro truck before they can even get their clutch engaged. If there was enough interest in electric MT racing i'd drop the T in a heartbeat, but i love to race MT and nitro is the only (race) game in town so when in Rome ......

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RE: T-Maxx vs. E-Maxx - 5/5/2004 9:07:44 PM

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Thanks. Best of all, you're a Hokie!

I bought a clear shell. I'm going to paint it and decal it as a VT rally wagon. Look for it buzzing around at the tailgates

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RE: T-Maxx vs. E-Maxx - 5/5/2004 9:14:55 PM

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post some pics when your done.

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RE: T-Maxx vs. E-Maxx - 5/5/2004 9:26:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: mojo-maxx

I agree with you Dale, a main part of the appeal for me is the fact its a gas engine and learning how to work with it. Which leads me to a question you could probably help me with. I have my T-Maxx broken in (I followed the break-in procedure to the best of my ability) but in the process I messed around with the idle and the low speed setting on the carb. One of the things I'm having problems with is getting a good idle speed. When its high enough to keep from stalling, it keeps trying to creep forward, when I lower it to keep from "creeping" it usually stalls (especially if I brake). Also, after I have been running it for awhile and it stalls, I sometimes have trouble getting it started again.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

It will usually idle fast and temps will creap up if the LSN is lean... Doesn't sound like that is the problem. The problem you are having is a rich LSN. I bet your truck 'bogs' when you first hit the throttle, right? Warm the truck up by running it up and down the street. Leaving the truck running, start leaning your LSN 1/8 turn at a time (no more then that- it is a sensitive needle). Your throttle response will start to get a LOT better, and it will idle better. Now, repeat this step until you get GREAT takeoff and a good steady idle. Finally, run it up and down one more time. Now pinch the fuel supply line to the carb. It should bog and die after 2 seconds. If it dies instantly, you are too lean. Richen it up 1/8 needle, and you probably have a good setting there. If the motor shuts off around 2 seconds, your LSN is perfect! It will coincide with the performance, because you will get GREAT take offs.

Now as far as the idle, I keep the receiver 'off', and start the truck (make sure throttle servo is in center position, and the slide valve is closed). Put the truck on the ground. SLOWLY increase the idle until the truck starts to want to go foward on it's own, and then back it down until it sits still. I don't do this with the receiver on, because then you are fighting the servo.
Don't let it get away from you, and keep the remote handy in case you need to control the truck for any reason.

Voila, LSN and idle.

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RE: T-Maxx vs. E-Maxx - 5/11/2004 10:13:56 PM

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The nice thing about a T-Maxx is that your only spending $400-500 to get 40+ mph. A brushless setup will cost $400-500 on top of the cost of the truck. But once you've gone brushless you never go back. I tell ya I've raced many tricked out tmaxx's (even ones that are so insanely fast that you barely have control over it) with my Emaxx and when the race is over I either won or am very happy because I don't have to deal with the mess. 3 out of 5 starts usually end up with the T-maxx stalling because itchy fingered people stale the engines by giving it full throttle from the line.

Its even funnier when I see all these guys with Nitro's trying to debug their engine, borrowing each others glow starter because the batteries on theirs are dead, or they just have problems. While their tinkering, I'm practicing laps and jumping around on the course. I like messing with my truck, just not at the track. I'd rather leave the upgrades and maintanence at home.

anyway Emaxx's have their plus's. Don't get me wrong, Nitro's are cool too (I have a electric starter on my HPI RS4 so lifes a lot easier) but I'd definitly go emaxx + brushless combo.

andy

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RE: T-Maxx vs. E-Maxx - 5/13/2004 2:07:19 AM

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andyman,

What BL set-up do you have,I'm interesed in upgading my EM. I already know the power of BL aircraft and it's addictive.

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RE: T-Maxx vs. E-Maxx - 5/13/2004 2:24:06 AM

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I agree with Dale.

I had the same problem as you mojo-maxx. When I was finished tuning my maxx my idle gap was slightly bigger then 1mm that is recommended by Traxxas. My Maxx now holds a tune and has a great take off. Be patienet it will sometimes take a while until you understand how your truck acts.

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RE: T-Maxx vs. E-Maxx - 5/13/2004 6:42:50 AM