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Why not onboard, real-time cameras and steering wheels? - 5/14/2004 1:05:13 AM

kalasend

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Hi,

Newbie here. Just got myself an inexpensive nitro kit from HPI and got everything together and up and running.
I must say that the building and tuning experience was terrific...never feel so great about cars before.

But when it comes to "playing"(note that I do not use the word "driving"

the car, sorry if someone find this offensive, it simply sucks! I don't understand how the RC car world can live with this. Come on! You tune and setup the car like a professional racecar engineer and freaking "play" it like a 3-year-old playing rubber duck?

Ok, enough complaining. I just wonder is there someone out there making onboard cameras and steering wheel controls for RC cars? I know there will never be 100% driving experience but I think right now we are at 30% when in fact technologies already allow us to go to above 50% at least....are there products that fill this gap?

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RE: Why not onboard, real-time cameras and steering whe... - 5/14/2004 1:47:48 AM

RC Maniac

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and you post this here because.....?

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RE: Why not onboard, real-time cameras and steering whe... - 5/14/2004 2:00:40 AM

kalasend

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Oh I just thought ppl here have more info about onboard cameras.

Are you thinking, "If you want real driving so much, why don't you get a real car"?
well,
1. It's way more expensive and I will not do as many exciting/dangerous moves to it as I would to an RC car
2. If more real driving is not desired in the RC car world, why the nitro engines? why 4WD? why different tire compounds? why so many technologies derived from real cars? And if they have done all that, why nobody is doing anything to the way people control these cars?

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RE: Why not onboard, real-time cameras and steering whe... - 5/14/2004 7:37:13 AM

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KALASEND

I just read all of your posts kalasend . I doubt you will come back to reply to any of them because you seem to have an attitude for some reason..
If you want to create a "video game" using remote control cars and a "real" steering wheel - then do it!!!!!

Dont come here and start mocking people!

If you do come back.. How would YOU create a "game".. that you

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see from the cockpit and drive with steering wheel

while playing on your computer/xbox/playstation?? It sounds interesting. kinda. Though i would rather be outside than inside while running my rc car.

If you are truly interestd in combining remote control with your car.. check out Aerial Photography and Video

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I just wonder is there someone out there making onboard cameras and steering wheel controls for RC cars?

Duct tape AND a Sony DCD-TRV19.
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What do you mean by "steering wheel control" ?

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RE: Why not onboard, real-time cameras and steering whe... - 5/15/2004 3:07:06 AM

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I think what he means is, instead of a standard controller for an R/C car. Why not incorporate some kind of head on steering wheel. Actually it would be easy to do. Just attach a bigger wheel to your existing controller and mount the whole thing to a pedastal some how.

The big problem would be making the throttle work.
Ummm.... You guys try it first though. I don't think I will try this with my M8.

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RE: Why not onboard, real-time cameras and steering whe... - 5/15/2004 3:40:52 AM

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Did you mean something like this? With a long enough patch cord to put the receiver outside the house ,I can drive my car around my yard and my neihbors yards. while sitting in the AC.

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RE: Why not onboard, real-time cameras and steering whe... - 5/15/2004 4:53:56 AM

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DUDE! That's so cool.

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RE: Why not onboard, real-time cameras and steering whe... - 5/15/2004 5:53:32 AM

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Wow!!!!!!!!! Why did you bought a RC if you think it's for dummy?I don't think my 3 year old nephew can drive it like i could!I drove any kind of car from Skyline to Mustang makin' 11 sec on quarter mile and its not comparing to a little machine (RC) who can go 70 mph!It's fascinating,i got mine since 4 months and maybe 200 persons comes watchs and ask question about this superb machine.I don't understand your point.Anyway,check on the web for your fancy little cam and bring your video to see if you can drive it like a racer!!!!

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ORIGINAL: kalasend

Hi,

Newbie here. Just got myself an inexpensive nitro kit from HPI and got everything together and up and running.
I must say that the building and tuning experience was terrific...never feel so great about cars before.

But when it comes to "playing"(note that I do not use the word "driving" the car, sorry if someone find this offensive, it simply sucks! I don't understand how the RC car world can live with this. Come on! You tune and setup the car like a professional racecar engineer and freaking "play" it like a 3-year-old playing rubber duck?

Ok, enough complaining. I just wonder is there someone out there making onboard cameras and steering wheel controls for RC cars? I know there will never be 100% driving experience but I think right now we are at 30% when in fact technologies already allow us to go to above 50% at least....are there products that fill this gap?

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RE: Why not onboard, real-time cameras and steering whe... - 5/15/2004 11:52:33 AM

kalasend

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ORIGINAL: bennyboy444
Wow!!!!!!!!! Why did you bought a RC if you think it's for dummy?I don't think my 3 year old nephew can drive it like i could!I drove any kind of car from Skyline to Mustang makin' 11 sec on quarter mile and its not comparing to a little machine (RC) who can go 70 mph!It's fascinating,i got mine since 4 months and maybe 200 persons comes watchs and ask question about this superb machine.I don't understand your point.Anyway,check on the web for your fancy little cam and bring your video to see if you can drive it like a racer!!!!

I bought it because I like(and I still do) my RC car. I just think there's better way to drive it. But please don't come back to me with another you-want-real-drive-a-real-car philosophy.
See I don't have money to get a Skyline nor Mustang, let alone the money to get them to the 11's. That's also why I want to look for more realistic driving experience on RC cars.
One important thing: I NEVER undermind this hobby(did I say this is for dummy?). You certainly control the RC car better than your 3 year old nephew. But then what? Does that mean you can never control it better with other methods?

Dude, I guess what you're really trying to say is: I am a real good racer and still I drive my RC car this way so what you're thinking is impractical and stupid.

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RE: Why not onboard, real-time cameras and steering whe... - 5/15/2004 12:14:38 PM

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Folks, I think my initial post had something that offends some people.
Let me clarify, I do not think this is a dummy hobby. I like my RC car a lot. Yes, I do not like the way we control it today BUT I am NOT saying that people controlling it this way are stupid(if I do then I am stupid too).

See I think the way we control RC cars are evolving too. I'm not an RC expert but from my childhood memory I think RC car control pads used to be the 2-rod system(one for left-right, one for forward-backward). If you compare that with today's "handgun-styled" control, i think there's already an indication of people trying to move closer to real car driving. So what I am suggesting is really not too far off that path right?

Even if that's not true, bare in mind that things will improve, evolve or even revolve. What I'm doing is really just trying to imagine how I would drive my RC car tomorrow. I just think if the control method has to evolve then the cam-and-steering-wheel method is the most natural way to go.

And lastly I really, really, really hate it when people throw me with the go-drive-a-real-car philosophy because that's impractical for my economic status. In simple words, I am not a rich guy. I can wreck my RC car and walk away financially free but I can't with a real car.

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RE: Why not onboard, real-time cameras and steering whe... - 5/15/2004 7:00:39 PM

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RE: Why not onboard, real-time cameras and steering whe... - 5/19/2004 2:26:49 AM

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I totally get what you mean when you say, "more realistic", But if you get too realistic with it, then it kinda spoils the fun because then you eliminate the challenge of having to coordinate the wheel and trigger with both hands in order to win. If you set it up so that you just have a pedal and a big steering wheel, it would make it not only bulky, but just too much like a video game. It would also eliminate the need for knowledge on how to program a computer radio which, I think, is a very useful skill to have later on down the road of life. Simply put, I like the pistol grip; it gives me a better feel for excitement and competition of racing. When you give a couple pulls on that trigger when the throttle servo is linked up to a $300 .21 on a 1/8 scale buggy, you literally feel power; and you just can't get that same feeling from some anologue pedal mounted in a box linked to some big-a$$ steering wheel, it just doesn't flow.

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RE: Why not onboard, real-time cameras and steering whe... - 5/20/2004 4:14:09 PM

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I get what he's saying, and I think it would be cool. I can even see racing that way. Think about games like NASCAR, you get an in-car view of the track. Imagine doing that for rc racing? Especially oval racing! That would be way cool. A guy at my track has a camera on his truck, and he has recorded some of our races. It's jumpy, cuz the vibration kills the signal, but still VERY cool. Frankly, I'd like to sit on my butt, in my pit area, and drive the race from there if I could. No crowd, no getting poked by some newbie standing next to me that doesn't realize he doesn't need his antenna extended 4 feet to race on an oval where you never get more than 30' away from your car, just a nice relaxing race. Yeah, that would be cool. Dunno about a big steering wheel though, that's kinda camp.

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RE: Why not onboard, real-time cameras and steering whe... - 5/26/2004 3:19:11 AM

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Go to the giant cars section they have exactly what you are talking about there...

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RE: Why not onboard, real-time cameras and steering whe... - 6/3/2004 5:21:10 AM

strtsmt18

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if you dont like it dont "play" with it

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ORIGINAL: kalasend

Hi,

Newbie here. Just got myself an inexpensive nitro kit from