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    RE: Pacific Aeromodels Edge 540T 40/70 - 2/11/2005 7:15:27 AM   
    rino


     

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    What did you do to reinforce your landing gear?

    Thanks,

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    RE: Pacific Aeromodels Edge 540T 40/70 - 2/12/2005 10:39:20 PM   
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    Absolutely Outstanding .

    Now how about the 60 size with a YS110FZ

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    RE: Pacific Aeromodels Edge 540T 40/70 - 2/12/2005 11:17:04 PM   
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    A 60 size would be PERFECT with a YS110FZ on it. I was going to do a review for the RCU magazine but the guys in charge of RCU said someone else "local" was going to get it done...I would have had it done in November...I still haven't found it in the RCU Quick Reviews or Full Reviews...still waiting!

    What can I do? I tried.

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    RE: Pacific Aeromodels Edge 540T 40/70 - 2/13/2005 1:15:20 AM   
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    PM cum'n atcha!!

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    RE: Pacific Aeromodels Edge 540T 40/70 - 2/13/2005 6:22:51 AM   
    rino


     

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    The only problem you might have with the 110 is the weight. This plane was made to fly light and with a Saito 100 its a little nose heavy. The YS 110 may take it out of its envalope.

    Anyways I lost mine today while hovering. I was cut in half by a 1/3 scale edge. Mine was a total loss as was his.

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    RE: Pacific Aeromodels Edge 540T 40/70 - 2/13/2005 11:01:04 AM   
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    Rino,
    Sorry about your loss, god how I hate that when it happens . I lost an airplane in the sun once and put her wide open into a lake. My friend went swimming for me and retrieved what he could. Fortunately I was able to save the radio gear and engine nothing else. They say H20 is harder than concrete I believe it!! I called PA some time back and was told that some improvements were being made in the 60 size. Was told the YS would be perfect and to contact them in a couple of months. Still trying to sort out some other issues while I wait.

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    RE: Pacific Aeromodels Edge 540T 40/70 - 11/27/2005 4:38:46 AM   
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    Well, after much abuse and little repairs here and there, some hanger rash from moving, and then one final incident, the reviewed PA Edge 540T 40/70 is a gonner. I sent in the YS engine and JR receiver to have them looked at, and they checked out.

    My new Edge 540T has arrived from Winner RC! There are improvements made in the .40 sized Edge, ones that should make every modeler happy!

    1. The wheelpants have a piece of fiberglass running the full length of the seam on the inside to make sure the halves never split. I always had to add my own reinforcement.

    2. The covering is further up on the firewall, allowing it to adhere better to keep any fuel residue from getting under it.

    3. More covering is included for sealing the hinges.

    4. The wing incidence dowls are smaller and more precise, still made from carbon fiber.

    I love the way this plane flies and can't wait to get this replacement in the air! Now that I've moved to Northern California, it should be flying weather througout this whole Winter - okay, it might rain a few days, but that's alright.

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    RE: Pacific Aeromodels Edge 540T 40/70 - 1/3/2006 4:18:48 AM   
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    Here's some pics of the new Edge. I made the improvements listed previously in this review right away during assembly.

    1. Covering the firewall completely should eliminate any fuel residue from getting on the wood.
    2. Moving the elevator servo cutouts forward and up a little will get the geometry where it should be so the elevators can be dialed in with equal throws throughout the range of motion.
    3. I am replacing the two-piece landing gear with a single piece carbon fiber gear that is slightly taller for more prop clearance.

    I was pleased to see that PA is now including an anodized wing tube.

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    RE: Pacific Aeromodels Edge 540T 40/70 - 1/3/2006 5:29:44 AM   
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    I'm glad to see someone is trying a YS 91 on this bird. Please let us know how the CG comes out and how it flys!

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    RE: Pacific Aeromodels Edge 540T 40/70 - 1/4/2006 12:08:06 AM   
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    I also have the Pacific Aeromodel 60/100 with a Saito 100 And it is great. I broke the landing gear on it when I had a Deadstick and it was a very windy day and I shouldn't have been flying but after I fixed it and reinforced the gear. Its going strong the Saito 100 is enough power for IMAC but it dosn't rocket out of a Hover, but it is a very good plane I would recommend it.

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    RE: Pacific Aeromodels Edge 540T 40/70 - 1/5/2006 9:23:23 PM   
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    Here's the Carbon Fiber gear I purchased from www.troybuiltmodels.com for the Edge.

    It has the same dimensions as the stock gear, except a slightly higher stance (1" approximately). I run a 4-stroke with a large diameter, smaller pitch, propeller, so the little extra prop clearance on the grass is appreciated. There is no appreciable weight savings with the CF gear over the stock gear, but it looks great, won't constantly bend out of shape, and is one piece instead of two like the stock gear.



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    RE: Pacific Aeromodels Edge 540T 40/70 - 1/5/2006 10:57:20 PM   
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    Cool. Now get that thing in the air so we can see how the YS 91 works out. I have a new PA Edge to build and I'm trying to figure out which motor to use. The Saito 125 is tempting.

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    RE: Pacific Aeromodels Edge 540T 40/70 - 1/6/2006 12:03:34 AM   
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    The engine on this aircraft is a YS 63S. It had outstanding performance in vertical after hovering (in the review aircraft). I'm forcing myself to reduce my inventory and I'm only going to fly small electrics and large gassers...nothing in between. So, I'm not going to fly this new second aircraft setup, rather I'm going to sell it completely ready to fly with a JR receiver. PM if anyone wants a HIGH quality airplane built and ready to ROCK!

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    RE: Pacific Aeromodels Edge 540T 40/70 - 1/16/2006 8:45:33 PM   
    qwerty3


     

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    My 2 cents on this plane -

    I've had my PAM Edge 540T 40 size for about 9 months. I've got about 20 flights on it, or so. Mine is powered modestly, with an Enya 40SS, 10 X 6 Master Airscrew prop, and a Bisson muffler. I had to plug one of the pipes to get the Enya to run properly - otherwise not enough back pressure, etc. Would like to try some other prop combinations, or a 4-stroke.

    Pluses: Finish on the ARF was very good - better than my own covering job. The pieces all fit together well. The wing tube fit is very snug, but a little sanding, and some wax solved that. The plane flies well for me (just a sport flier - don't know how to do that "3D" stuff). It'll do almost anything I ask it. Construction is light - it'll fly slowly, and lands quite slowly. Color scheme is very good for orientation at a distance. Appearance is great - I get compliments at the field. Assembly time was pretty short. Very tame in a stall (with recommended CG) - have to work to get it to snap. Wheel pants are pretty, and easy to mount (although I changed to a machine screw & blind nut). Lots of room for the radio gear. The cable arrangement for the rudder works OK - first time I've tried this. I did add a small plywood piece to keep the cables separated. Had a couple of questions about things - Jim at PAM responded quickly via e-mail, and was pretty helpful. Have not had any flutter, even with the large control surfaces. The included tank holds lots of fuel - with my 40 I could probably fly for 20 minutes on one tank (longer than I usually like to fly at a time). Recommended control throws are a good place to start - no surprises there, but you may want to 'crank things up' after getting used to the plane.

    Minuses: Could not taxi the plane on grass, even with 3" wheels. Had problems with the landing gear block coming loose. Reglued gear plate, was OK then . . . . . , until I stalled it on a deadstick landing @ about 5 feet. (The ailerons are so effective, it'll fool you that you're still flying - when you're stalled!) After breaking the structure after the aforementioned stall, I revised the structure to move the gear ahead about 1", and added a much larger piece of 1/4" ply to mount the gear on. This replacement larger piece was tied into the light-ply structure under the fuel tank, along with the original formers. Now, it'll taxi reasonably, but not great, on grass. The wheel pants don't seem to make much difference on the ground handling. Had vibration problems - screws would vibrate loose every flight. Discarded reinforced nylon mount, substituted a metal mount, with ply shims to reposition. Added silicone rubber washers under cowl & canopy screws. Have had radio glitching problems (Futaba FM); added a ferrite block to the elevator leads, and rerouted antenna out side of fuse, instead of built-in tube. Have twisted the elevator servo(s) extension leads together, and zip-tied them up in the fuselage above the rudder cables / away from the built-in antenna tube. Still get some glitches , but not too bad. If I do it over, someday, I'll move the elevator servo into the tray, and forget the rear-mount servos! Maybe a cable arrangement for the elevator? The covering supplied to seal the control gaps was minimal - could have used a bit more. The 3-line tank works, but it is difficult to get ALL the fuel out. After draining it whilst standing it on it's nose, I can still run the engine at idle for 10 minutes on what's left.

    Summary:
    Yeah, there's a few weak points (mainly the landing gear), but it's a great plane to fly. I'm looking forward to getting more time on it - get well enough acquainted to really 'wring it out'. It is enjoyable to fly, and handles wind very well. Would I buy another one? If I had the funds, yes. I'd love to try this plane with a .80 four-stroke.

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