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RE: Modeling Software - 11/10/2005 2:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Update. Am a registered user of Tcad LE. Just got an e-mail from them saying I can get Tcad 11.2 deluxe for $49 US. Can get Tcad 9 standard for $19 US plus $6 US for shipping. ANy comments between the two?

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RE: Modeling Software - 11/12/2005 8:07 PM   
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I've used them both and I'm currently using 11 Pro.

V11 has additional tools and refinements. But the BEST are the "Constraints" tools which allow you to more or less to quickly sketch something without any great precision and comback (or even along the drawing process), make things the size and true shape that you want. An example might be that you have 2 line crossing each other in space but you need them parallel. You can use the parallel constraint tool make them parallel without erasing.

Another simple example would be to constrain the middle of a line to the center of a circle. Then if you translate the circle the line will move with it automatically.

Another example would be the ability to fix an angle between 2 lines. Grab one of the lines rotate or drag it and the other maintains the angle.

Your basicly creating relationships between geometries which maintain those constraint relationships regardless of what happens to them. This saves work later down the road such as retrimming and redrawing elements.

Also V11 has includes some parametic modelling enhancments as well.

The bottom line is that TurboCAD versions 10.5 and above are really improving their products to working towards products like ProE, CATIA V5 (I use this at Boeing), etc.

A comparison of 11 Deluxe and 11 Pro can be found at http://www.turbocad.com/pro_vs_dlx.asp?mcid=283.

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RE: Modeling Software - 11/13/2005 4:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanbks Bart.

Will keep my eyes opne then for a v 10.2 or later.

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RE: Modeling Software - 11/13/2005 5:23 PM   
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Note that the Constraints Tools were incorporated in version 10.5.

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RE: Modeling Software - 11/22/2005 5:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		What is the main difference between TurboCAD 11 pro and deluxe versions? (That would be noticable in R/C model design)

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RE: Modeling Software - 11/22/2005 7:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I looked them over and near as I can tell there is really no way I would EVER need the options added in pro for the cost and what I am doing. I have never had any training in drafting, CAD, or any mechanical design. I do play with three views etc in Tcad LE because it is fun for me. It does halp draw acurately and to measure drawings compared to what I can scratch out with pen and paper. But mainly it is, as I said, fun for me. Others can turn these suites inside out and really create amazing stuff. I am continually in awe of others work.

Just my opinion.

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RE: Modeling Software - 12/25/2005 10:05 PM   
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RE: Modeling Software - 1/6/2006 4:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		If anyone is interested this is a great FREE 3D program, the interface is very easy to use much like Inventor or SolidWorks.

http://www.alibre.com/xpress/software/alibre-design-xpress.asp



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RE: Modeling Software - 1/17/2006 12:52 PM   
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The site you linked to is not really free as it is just a 30 day trial. Then you are required to pay. You got me all excited.

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RE: Modeling Software - 1/20/2006 9:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have maybee found a trick for Autocad LT.users that might allready be known or not .
Anyway it is possible to load Images directly in to Autocad by typing Image on the command Line, next enter Alt-A. Now go to where the Image is kept on your computer by using the top line on the Window in Autocad follow the commands.
Once this is all done start on the bottom left part of the sheet going to the top rigt.
Once you got the image there you can now triat it like other sheets in Autocacd that is rotate, move alter the size etc.
Now the job of tracingt the lines becomes somuch easer.
I found this described in CAd Digest on the Internet.
This sounds al lot more complecated then it is.
Hope this helps

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ORIGINAL: erazz

Software used:
Solidworks, SolidEdge, Autocad for modeling (nice to have access to a design office with all the licenses)
Profili
MotoCalc

Trying to find a good program for cnc now (mesh3d seems nice, don't have money for MasterCam or VirtualMill)

















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RE: Modeling Software - 1/31/2006 3:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Found a very nice little free DXF and DWG file viewer and printing utility at ...

http://www.edrawingsviewer.com/pages/products/DWG-DXF-Viewer.html

Select the DOWNLOAD button and then select the "eDrawings Publisher for AutoCAD®" option and continue.

When you run it it'll open with a "register me" screen but just say "later" and it's good to go. The scroll wheel works for a position sensitive zoom in and out function that's very nice to use. It won't tile print in the free version but it does print at 100% for smaller stuff and reduces to fit for larger stuff. I printed off a couple of my one page CAD files and it produced them as nicely as the orginal CAD program does.

It's a 6 meg download.

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RE: Modeling Software - 5/19/2006 3:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Some of the posts on the threads have been very anti-AutoCAD in the 3-D aspect. Please keep in mind that most of the aircraft you see flying today and most of the aircraft that will fly tomorrw will be designed in autoCAD. Most of the people who learn AutoCAD learn the basics of modeling, and never get the chance to actually dig deeper into the 3-D systems of AutoCAD. It took me about 3 years of reasearch to get to the point im at in AutoCAD, and i still dont know everything, however i do know that theres nothing i cant model accurately in AutoCAD. Below ill post a pic of the latest design of a full scale aircraft i hope to build with a friend. Please note that it is in the first stages of design, and will probably change in various ways during design. As you can see i have yet to add a cockpit, landing gear (retracts), and some other minor objects. The design is based off of a Bede BD-5B, however our uncertainty in the design of the wings on the origional led us to the conclusion that we should make our own, thus this design. Ill also post what most people consider to be the maximum modeling performance of AutoCAD, so that you may see the difference.


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RE: Modeling Software - 5/19/2006 4:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you run AutoCAD (like I do), then you must buy the AutoCad Raster Design! Maybe that's been covered here? It allows you to seemlessly integrate raster images, in other words, it is great for tracing in three-views!!!

The only bad part - it is version specific. That is to say, I'll be buying autocad 2007 soon & when I do I won't be able to use Raster Design 2006 with it. Anybody running AutoCad 2006? Want a very reasonable price on Raster Design?

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RE: Modeling Software - 5/20/2006 6:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Has anyone used coreldraw to vectorize images? I wanted to know the accuracy. I downloaded the FREE trial, and it seems to work quite well exporting as .dxf or .dwg. this is a link to the tutorial page that covers vectorizing.

Corel tutorials

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RE: Modeling Software - 5/20/2006 7:35 PM   
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RE: Modeling Software - 7/14/2006 3:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		I use AutoCAD myself... and learning Inventor 10. love them

A cheaper alternative to AutoCAD is the clone BrisCAD $250. It is not AutoCAD 100% but close and a hole lot cheaper.

http://www.bricscad.com/

FREE Downloads

The free versions are fully capable. No time-outs; no critical features disabled, such as saving to file; no advertising. These are significant packages, ideal for the small shop, student, and hobbyist.

Be clear that this isn't CAD welfare by corporations for corporations. These CAD programs are free in the hopes of (1) increasing mindshare; (2) upgrading from the fee version, plus ancillary costs; and collecting data on potential customers. After all, the easiest person to sell to is an existing customer (provided said customers don't hate your guts for screwing them around).

MicroStation PowerDraft to anyone able to pass themselves off as a student as an introduction to the product this is worth checking out.
http://www.be.org/en-US/BE+Careers/Free+Download.htm

Google SketchUp (free) is an easy-to-learn 3D modeling program that enables you to explore the world in 3D
http://sketchup.google.com/

Alibre Design Xpress Primarily use 2D CAD software? Ready to get started with a real parametric solid modeler, but don't want to spend a bundle? Alibre Design Xpress delivers the features you need to tackle projects for your business or hobby.
http://www.alibre.com/xpress/

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RE: Modeling Software - 10/25/2006 11:54 AM   
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I have started to use AUTO CAD 2007 from today.. It doesnt seem very compicated if you know where all the things are but itsnot very easy either.. I would like to create a 3D model plans of a plane and I ve got some 2D plans in DWG and DXF formats etc. Could someone please tell me how to start of to convert a piece of drawing from 2D into 3D I know Im a noob at this but if I know the basics everything would go smooth later on .

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RE: Modeling Software - 11/16/2006 2:28 AM   
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The site you linked to is not really free as it is just a 30 day trial. Then you are required to pay. You got me all excited.


Actually the free software is Alibre Design Xpress 9.0 the 30 day trial is for the professional version. I have downloaded the previous version of Xpress, but never really made use of it due to a lack of time. So you can get excited!

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RE: Modeling Software - 11/18/2006 8:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you just need to sketch quickly a project, I would suggest you try RcCad (I am the author! ): the basic version is free with no time-limit and I guess may already be a good introduction to 3D Cad before buying a full-fledged product like AutoCad

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RE: Modeling Software - 12/23/2006 11:47 AM   
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im Using The Cimatron E7 for Design , the CNC capabilities of it are amazing
Very good support for basic design throuh Drawings & Nc programing where all process is associative.

The core of this softwear is ~6K $[image][/image]

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RE: Modeling Software - 1/22/2007 3:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Stupid Question...Maybe Somebody Already Asked This But:

Does anyone know for example what software Great Planes or any other major manufacturer is using to design their models? They are constantly knocking out ARF's left and right. They have to deliver plans and instruction books and get parts lasercut so what are the BIG manufactures using?

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RE: Modeling Software - 1/22/2007 7:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi! I'm interested in KeyCreator 6.0.2. Can you offer me a homepage where can I download the trial version or somebody who knows it.
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RE: Modeling Software - 3/3/2007 7:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I recently saw where Autodesk is offering a free learning version of Alias Studio.
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?id=6934974&siteID=123112
I haven't checked to see how this version compares with the full version which I have been using for years but I suspect, for design visualization, high level surfacing and rendering, it is light years ahead of the other programs. This is for people who want to do serious 3D modeling, not if you just want to put out 3 views of 2D stuff.


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RE: Modeling Software - 3/3/2007 10:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Tony,
I googled KeyCreator and found a free trial version here:

http://www.kubotekusa.com/products.html

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RE: Modeling Software - 3/6/2007 2:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I haven't read the whole thread, but I had the opportunity to do a research about 3D modeling software for manufacturing. The best options are AutoCAD Inventor and Solidworks. The problem is they are too expensive for a hobbyst. Then, I looked at another product that has been positioning at small manufacturing, Alibre Design. It is less expensive than others and it is thrully 3D modeling based on parts and assemblies.

I also found Profili v2 Professional. This software designs wings based on any type of airfoil. At the end, it produces DXF files that can be used directly into laser cuts or CNC. Great combination. My son and I will be designing wings with Profili and importing ribs and parts into Alibre. There, we will produce plans and see how everything fits together before cutting any piece of wood.

My 2 cents.

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