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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/10/2005 6:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Larry I don't know what brand they handle. I was looking for ones that had some of the spinner going past the back plate. That way I could move the motors further forward. I had to notch the firewall to get the 52 fs to clear. So far mine takes very little weight to ballance. Thanks Rich

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/10/2005 7:07 AM   
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The Du-Bro spinners have a recessed backplate.

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/10/2005 8:16 AM   
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Status: online 		Add a piece of balsa on the front of the cowl, place some masking tape on the cowl sand to fit....touch up ... airbrush does a great job.
I airbrushed the front of my nose section. ( which was made of foam, sanded to fit, glass it)
Also Goldberg makes a recessed spinner.
You did not have to cut the firewall, you should have placed a 1/4" spacer in the back of the motor mount, moves everything forward.....Have you decided to use on-board glo ignitors ?

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/10/2005 4:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Larry I added a piece on my p-38 cowl and I thought about it on the Mossi. I just thought the right spinners would be easer. But that hasn't worked out either. I did not use onboard glow as of yet. I hope to get to run the motors some more today. Saturday it was 3 below in the morning. I am ready for spring. What type of paint did you use? looks like you got a pretty good match.
Bill the biggest spinner I have found is 3 in. from Dubro. We have a LHS but I have more stuff than he does. He carries mostly plastic modles and train stuff. Rich

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/10/2005 7:20 PM   
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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/10/2005 8:00 PM   
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All else failing, Tru-Turn will make a custom base plate for you, or a complete spinner to your design. But you will pay for it.

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/10/2005 8:52 PM   
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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/10/2005 9:10 PM   
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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/10/2005 11:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		i HAVE TWO MAGNUM FOUR STROKE .30'S That Id Like to use in a twin the spin a 10x5 around 9800 rpm what about mechanical reteacts? VQ? would they be lighter than air ones?

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/11/2005 4:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mark I don't think the retracts would make enough difference . I can't help you as for power. I think it would fly but be real marginal. We fly at 6000 ft alt and I know I wouldn't try it up here. I have a friend that has an Islander twin that flys up here with two 30 four srokes, but it only weighs 7 lbs . Rich

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/20/2005 6:22 AM   
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Thankyou for your input on the Mossie, I look forward to more in the near future.

I am near completion on my (first) Mosquito. It is distributed by Flair here in the UK but it is the same model - luckily with all plywood centre section.

A few details:

- I bought the mechanical retracts, an option from Flair. They work well and are easy to install (although they did foul the tanks).
- 2 X SC 36 2-stroke engines
- pull-pull on the rudder as codimasta suggests
- carbon rods to the elevators (had I thought about it the eleator could have all internal controlled movement as well)
- 10oz 2000mah battery right up front
- 11lbs dry
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Like the look of that Flair Mossie.... I'll keep it in mind for a future project.......... is it an ARF?

I have an Aerotech Mossie at the moment........ Looks like about the same scale as the Flair one ......

Its had about 50+ flights with it so far and it's getting a little worn out...

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/20/2005 4:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes it is an arf the same as GSP. It is really nice . nice looking Mossi you have. Was the Aerotech kit fiberglass also? Thanks Rich

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/21/2005 1:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		high everyone just found this thread some very interesting articles, so thought as i'm building a flair mossie myself would post a few pictures.
getting near to completion now, running two OS52fs inverted large air retracts, oleo legs, 4.5" wheels, had a friend machine the blocks for the legs, and he also made me a scale tail wheel, for the retracts using twin air tanks mounted in the fus, work a treat, also cut out the front side windows and front of the fus still got to paint inside of fus. also using two bolly 3 blade 12/ 4.25 props

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/21/2005 2:02 AM   
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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/21/2005 2:07 AM   
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Yes it is an arf the same as GSP. It is really nice . nice looking Mossi you have. Was the Aerotech kit fiberglass also? Thanks Rich



Nope, the fuselage of the Aerotech (ATI) Mossie is a central balsa frame with upper and lower turtle decks. Wings & tailplane are also veneered foam. Cowls and nacelles etc are all plastic .

It flies well on 2 x Thunder Tiger .46's.... No bad tendacies that I've found yet, although I don't fly it 3-D style. I've had only 2 flights where I've lost an engine. The Mossie will fly just fine on one engine provided you make your turns into the live engine.

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/21/2005 7:29 AM   
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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/23/2005 4:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow !!! ......... Great job on the struts and airplane Lozza 1965. What kind of retracts are you using? Any problems with clearance and how far do the wheels retract into the engine pod? Did you beef up the landing gear mounts? Lets see some more pictures please! Best Regards. Baron Rico

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/24/2005 1:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi guys,

My buddie Lozza1965 just told me about this thread........I have also built a Flair (in the UK) ARTF Mosquito other names in other countries but we think from the same source, I thought maybe you like some pictures..........So if this has worked here's one



but if there's no picture bear with me and I'll try to sort it out....

I will be back with some other Mossie goodies....watch this space

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/24/2005 5:24 PM   
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Wow!! thats better, the picture on the left was shot just before the Mossies first flight, the spinners are made by RAM, a little small on diameter and too rounded on the nose for my taste, but the best we could find. Further engine testing showed some distortion of the cones taking place at 12.000 RPM causing vibration/out of balance problems. I took the decision to manufacture some more accurate shaped (I think) and dimensionally stable spinners, as shown in the other pictures. The cones are made in GRE the backplates turned from alluminium bar stock, the first cone came out of the mould last week and has been tested at 12,000ish RPM with no problems, the second was produced yesterday!!! and still requires trimming. What do you guys think? is the shape right? colour is in gel coat and can be from white thro' to black with all shades of grey in between. Let me know your comments, good or bad......
You may also see the twin oleo arrangement on the U/carriage this utilises the STD mech retract units supplied with the kit but solid ally mach'd pivot blocks. The plastic pivot blocks shattered on first landing!! I think the U/C setup used by my buddie Lozza is far superior if I have more problems I will change to that setup. But so far so good, when the weather warms up a bit we'll be out there again.

Happy Landings
Cheers for now

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/25/2005 5:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes Andy .......... Your machine work looks excellent and a very nice job on the spinners Sir. From the pictures that Lozza1965 published it looks as though your main gear units fit right into the retract (air or mechanical) strut hole. I was wondering if there was any clearance problems and if the the 4 1/2" wheels retract completely into the nacelle?

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/25/2005 1:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Baron,
Thanks for the positive comments, with Lozza's arrangement there is no room for the kit supplied servo tray in the nacelle. He found another position for the throttle servo. The wheel and air cylinder takes up most of the room. When the gear is retracted the wheel hangs out in the breeze a little, but we think quite acceptable. it going to look AWESOME!! on the ground . Fullsize Mossie's have huge u/c parts, which give it that hunched up bulldog type appearance, so difficult to create with a model. (to my eyes anyway, do you know what I mean?).
LOZZA can you post these guys some more pictures of your gear?

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/25/2005 7:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		the retracts i'm using are large air retracts supplied by inwoods models here in the UK, the legs are 12mm (for you over the big pond thats metric i know you guys like to work in imperial) diameter 120mm long oleo legs, the ali block holding it all together was made by dh71 with a 6mm silver steel bar connects into the retract unit.
Due to the extra weight of these units, though not heavy takes a little more air to lift them, so i've installed twin tanks in the fuz, the units are operated by an electronic air valve, and for the more observant of you you'll notice a 4mm ball valve located just after the air valve (on the centre wing photo) the sole purpose of this was to keep the wheels up whilst transporting to our wet soggy field, wish the sun would come out, oops sorry, but have since discovered that by partly opening the ball valve they operate in a very silky scale type way, by the way all the air pipes and fittings are 4mm festo and your notice on the fuz photo the air in connector is just in front of the wing and to connect fuz to wing air pipes i'm using a one way quick release valve.
with the air tanks charged to about 80 -90 psi getting about 6-7 cycles on the retracts.
the other unit on the wing photo is the on board remote glow for both engines, best unit i've had yet, throttle servo plugs into the unit and the unit lead plugs into the reciever, to operate you turn on transmitter and reciever set the engine trim push the throttle full open then close, this activates the glows they gradully die out at about 25% throttle then reactivate when you get back to 25% throttle, once the model has landed you close the throttle trim and this switches the unit off all fully atuomatic, the two white plugs are for charging the two batteries.
finnally nose art is now been redone and shows up much better.

hope its been informative

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/25/2005 7:37 PM   
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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/26/2005 10:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks again to both Lozza & DH71 for the additional information and great photos. It looks like both you guys do some very nice tidy work .... Right up my alley so i can really appreciate it! Yeah ..... I can now see that you had to removed some material in the nacelle to make room for the duel oleo legs then mounted the throttle servo under the retract unit .. looks good! The electric air & ball valve and on board ignition units are way cool!!! What brand and model # are these units? Also can you please email me a file copy of the nose art .... It looks far more appealing that the stock supplied "grim reaper guy"!! Ha...Ha ...
My direct email is: d.r.phillips@nventure.com
Keep us posted as to your flights and any other modifications ....... Carry on Gents. Cheers DRP.

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 1/26/2005 9:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		high chaps, just realised that i been putting a bit of dud info on here, had a few emails asking me how well the 4.5" wheels house away, their not 4.5 but 4" wheels and as to housing away, they stick out a little from the bottom nothing worth worring about.
SORRY
now got both engine installed bench ran the second engine today put about half a gallon through it just to losen it up a bit, all throttle mini servos connected and working ok, so need to get my ass into gear on final bits then can hopefully start engine testing the engines together.

took another photo of plane today with both engines installed and those awsome looking bolly three bladers. also last night hand painted on the red markings on the wings

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