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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 2/26/2005 11:04 PM   
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As soon as it warms up a bit......... we are presently in a sharp cold snap due to wind blowing down from Siberia. We've had sub zero temps and snow and all sorts of other cold nasty stuff. Rest assured once the frostbite in our fingers has abated we will both be out there flying our Mossies. We'll take some pics and post, but could be a couple of weeks yet so don't hold your breath. Lozza's machine really looks awesome, it's better in the flesh, than in the pics. He's done a really good job. Engines tests next week, then we just have to balance the spinner assemblies and that's it finished.
I am thinking of converting mine to the fighter version, canon, rockets, solid nose, new canopy but will not start that work until I'm happy with the flying setup, so probably not until next winter hopefully............
Have you started building yours yet?

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 3/7/2005 5:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		No i haven't started the Mossi yet DH 71 Tiger....... I have a couple of projects to finish up first, but i have started collecting all the bits for it! I'll be using two OS FS-48 4 cycles (one counter rotating), Series 100 Spring Air retracts, JZ Special 3 1/2" Aluminum Spinners (originally made for the Pica FW -109) and am in the process of making some duel struts very similar to yours only a smaller diameter (5/16 " OD). If the Struts work out i'll post some pictures and Specs. when done.
PS. Regarding the "Off Center" Retract mount flaw in the wing .......... I finally received an answer! It came not directly from CMP Manufacturing but supposedly from Jet Hobbies there Canadian supplier. According to them there is no flaw ..... The wing was manufactured this way on purpose. Yeah Right!!!
What purpose that my be was not stated ...... Ha ... Ha ... Ha ....
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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 4/2/2005 10:43 AM   
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I flew my Mossie the other day and I can tell you it is ballistic with 2x 46AXs. Flys well at 1/3 throttle but unfortunately the mechanical retracts I used aren't strong enough so a new set are on the way. Great flying twin for those about to fly their mossie.

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 4/4/2005 10:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would like to purchase (trade) a Mosquito from someone who wants to sell.
I have lots of unstarted kits to choose from. Also cash seems to work.

Looking for NIB or barely started.
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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 4/14/2005 4:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		I thought I would put in my two cents worth. I have two of these models. The first had the balsa wing spars. I found it and never flew the plane. I had purchased it off EBay from Red Devil Hobbies. They referred me to Jet Hobbies who refused to do anything about it. I threatened to post bad reviews of Red Devil and they asked me not too, that Jet Hobbies was the importer and didn't understand why they didn't honor the warranty. They also put me in touch with China Model Products. CMP were very nice. They also said that Jet Hobbies was the importer who should have handled the problem. They said they would have them contact me. They never did. Finally CMP got tired of trying and sent me a new plane FEDX from China. I was very pleased with their response and have emailed them about other planes(I have several of their planes) and have always received a prompt reply. I haven't flown this new one yet but it looks like it will be a good flier. Remember guys, it is stand off scale. If you want it cheap it won't be perfect, if you want it perfect you will have to build it from a kit.

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 4/18/2005 11:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		HI Guys

I also fly my Mossie with 46 AXs and yes it goes like a twin pylon racer !

Question is can anyone tell me how much down stick to program in when using full flaps (landing mode on an Eclipse 7), my Mossie pitches up madly even with half flap and I'm trying to find a good starting point to program in ?

Weighing in at 17 lubs 7kg (2lbs of balanst to balance) it come in like a lead sled and landing is always an "interesting" experience

Any suggestions with the flap elevator mix?

Al.

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 4/18/2005 11:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Did you still need nose ballast to balance out with the .46 engines???? Or is that tail weight?
I'm planning to add a pair of .46fx with pitts mufflers and was hoping that added weight would not be required.

I must be a fast lander if you don't have the flaps programmed in yet.

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 4/19/2005 12:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		The model will need approx 2 pounds of nose weight, I install a five cell 1800mah battery and a load of lead to get the CG right
The model has a very short nose and long tail moment so l,ots of balast is required (unless your installing a couple of 90's!)


...A WORD OF CAUTION the CG as markin in the manual is not correct !

The CG should be 85mm rear of the inboard leading edge (not outboard as in the manual)

Double check your CG...as I found out the hard way.

Also if you are using retracts, balance the model with the gear up as the model is quite sensitive the CG change.


I have landed withy flaps but I'm holding lots of down stick to stop the pitch up effect.

cheers

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 4/20/2005 4:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am going to buy one of these and have a pair of OS46LA's was wondering would they be powerful enough as the LA series is not that high spec but very reliable.

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 4/20/2005 10:42 PM   
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I powered my first Mossie with 46LAs for the same reason (good reliability) whist take offs were scale there (it took over 100 yards to get airborne) was no reserve power left for any manouevers, the straight level airspeed seemed fine but you had to be very carefull and keep all turns very flat and climb outs very shallow.....in all very under powered !

This model was serverly damaged after I lost #1 engine down wind, the model then tip stalled and spun in.........I learnt a lesson.

I would suggest you go for 46FXs (or AXs even) as they will spin an 11x7 prop an extra 3000rpm, this will give you plenty of authority and a lot more confidence in the air, mine no flies a treat with AXs, rolls are axial and big loops are possible.

Al.

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 4/20/2005 11:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, I had a feeling about that. I have also a 46 bluebird which is a powerful engine might see if I can pick another one up on ebay.
Otherwise I will just buy two new 46's.

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 4/23/2005 11:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dehavilland Mosquito................ Lead sled or nimble fighter?

After reading everyones thread here it seems that unless one was to
Shoehorn a couple of 90 Four strokes under the bonnet. This pig will be
WAY TAIL HEAVY.
As others have said I am interested in using a pair of OS 45 FSR engines.
Others want OS 46 engine (pretty much same thing)
This plane is going to use about 2 pounds of lead to get the CG right.

I have studied this kit a lot and I just do not see any weight to be removed aft of the CG.
Perhaps lighter gear but that would start up another rat nest.

Moving the engines a little farther forward might help, but then the cowlings would need to be stretched.
One person has done that with nice looking results.

I had interest in removing the covering and glass and paint the airframe but thats out the window with this
lead weight issue.

Anybody care to comment about this problem?

Thanks Greg


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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 4/24/2005 8:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		I honestly don't know where every one is coming from regarding the weight issue, mine when balanced required half a pound of lead in the nose, and i was runnig heavier wheels and legs, air tanks in the rear of the fuz,
DH71's mossie did'nt need any extra weight at all in fact he had to move the on board glow batteries to the rear section in the wing

lozza

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 4/24/2005 7:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was thinking the same thing. Mine required about 3/4 oz in the nose with mech. retracts (Robart) and .52 four strokes.

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 4/25/2005 9:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		dragon lines quick question your 52's did you mount them horizontally or inverted and how did you overcome having to extend the cowls, also how much fuel mess do you get inside your cowls, also any pictures of your engine installation

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 5/13/2005 5:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry it has taken me so long to reply. Been out of town. I have tried mounting the engines both ways. I have two of these planes. The first was the one with the bad wing. I mounted the engines inverted on that one. I had trouble getting the engines to idle reliable because I couldn't lower the tanks enough to keep it from flooding. I never flew that one. The new one CMP sent me I mounted them at 45 degrees. Much better. Not as pretty though. I had to cut out a small place in the firewal to get the engines back far enough. Just behind the carb. They still need about a 1/16 of an inch to be perfect, but this is stand off scale so I didn't sweat it. I'll try and get pictures this week end.

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 5/18/2005 1:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lozza, what pilots did you use in your Mosquito? I was thinking the Hanger 9 WWII 1/9 scale would be a good fit.

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 5/31/2005 2:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just received my Mossie from Hobby Warehouse. I've read all the posts on this thread and see quite a variety of choices for engines and gear, but haven't read of anyone purchasing the "heavy duty" mechanical retracts for the Mossie in the U.S. I emailed Flair in the U.K., and they replied that the gear would be available in 4 weeks. Does anyone know if a supplier in the U.S? GSP says they don't have it....

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 5/31/2005 3:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am using some spring air clones that come from a KMP P-38, and I think they will work fine. The new Robart economy line looks like it would be a good match. I think 90 degree retracts will work fine. One good thing about the air retracts, instead of two retract servos in the rear of each pod, I can mount the single actuator servo and air valve in the front of the wing. This will help to minimize the nose weight needed in the end. There is plenty of room for the air tank in the wing also. I'm even mounting the receiver in the wing, since the majority of the servos are there. That will leave only two plugs from the fuse to mate up when assembling the plane.

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 5/31/2005 11:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mossi

Hello
Iam in the proccess of scrath building one right now. I like them a little bigger.This is a 130 in. wing span. Powered by 2 x G62. Hopefully I'll have it flying by next spring. I have sent you a picture of it so far.
Jerry


Now you have my attention!! All this talk about ARF Mossi's that don't really look right with gear that is closer to the Hornet than the Mossi caused me to almost give up on this thread but seeing your's inspired me....where are you at on this build??? I fly a Brian Taylor 80 inch Mossi with Surpass 70 4 strokers and built my own retracts.....what a plane...I love the Mossi and really want to hear about yours....

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 6/1/2005 4:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, Todd!
I would like the springair's also, but was thinking of using the previous gentleman's idea of machining an aluminum block to hold 2 straight struts (3/8" Robostruts?) to get a more scale look. In the short term, I'd like to locate a source of the Flair mechanical ones they advertise on their website. I suspect they're changing hands right now hence the 4 week wait they mentioned.
I'm considering O.S. 40FS's for mine. I'm here on the Gulf coast, at sea level, and fly off pavement. Anyone have an opinion on this?

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 6/1/2005 1:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		The scale type gear will look nice. Of course it will require much larger cut outs than the wire type, but will look great on the ground. The new Robarts are just like spring airs, and only cost about $120 complete, but they are not yet available. As for engines, I am using two OS .46AX's in mine. If I'm going to use .40 size engines, I figure I might as well get all of the power I can. I wouldn't want to be outrun by any of the lesser warbirds at the field.




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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 6/1/2005 1:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just printed this whole thread because two OS 52's needed a home. :-)

I originally wanted to use Hydemounts but was not prepared to extend the cowls. So it's solid mounts, B&D retracts and three-bladed props.

I tried unsuccessfully so far, to order black plastic three-bladed 3-1/2" spinners. Anyone know where I can get them?

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 6/1/2005 1:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Three blade props will look nice on the ground, but I won't take the performance sacrifice. They will be way to small to look scale anyway, but I agree they look better than two bladers. I know there are many who disagree, and like the extra scale looks. They might even convince themselves that there is not a performance loss.

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RE: DeHavilland Mosquito - 6/1/2005 6:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is a minimum of performance loss with three blade props. I have several planes flying very well with them. Including this one. Where are these retracts you folks are writing about? I put a set of Robart mech. in but am not pleased with the ground stability, I'd like something more solid.

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