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FiberClassics P-51 now Comp-ARF P-51 - 7/21/2004 4:10:37 PM   
schroedm



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From: SevenoaksKent, UNITED KINGDOM
Status: offline 		Hi,

I'm desperately trying to find anyone who has bought one of these. I believe it was the FiberClassics Mustang prior to becoming the Comp-ARF kit??

I know there is a fair bit of work involved but, fundamentally, is it worth pursuing?? I simply don't have time to build from a kit/plans so this looks perfect for me.

All opinions welcomed!

Regards,
Mark
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RE: FiberClassics P-51 now Comp-ARF P-51 - 7/21/2004 6:36:02 PM   
samsrc



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Status: offline 		It's funny you posted this, because I was about to ask the same thing. I am also looking at getting one of these Mustangs, and wanted to hear more about what people thought of the kit....Good?? bad?? otherwise?? etc

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RE: FiberClassics P-51 now Comp-ARF P-51 - 7/21/2004 7:14:17 PM   
SCALECRAFT


 

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I had this model. It is a very immpressive all composite model, detailed panels and rivets through out from the tip of its epoxy glass cowl to the tip of its epoxy glass rudder. And wing tip to wing tip, the bench mark of molded in detail.

I didn't keep it because it would be too much money in one plane. I just could'nt do it. So I sold it..

The only thing I didn't like about it was the butt joints at the seams of the wings, and due to its laminated balsa glass construction, its wing dented easily.

In fact, I thought I would damage the spinner often,and wanted a static 4 blade look, so I molded it to make a composite replacement. Why?? I guess just because I could do it. I might have pic of it out of the box. I'll search my files.

Steve

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RE: FiberClassics P-51 now Comp-ARF P-51 - 7/21/2004 7:27:55 PM   
Tobbe



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I think it's worth the price. I started building first week of januari 04 with 300 hours put into it.
Started up engine today worked great. Waiting for good wether this weekend for first flight.
Tobbe

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RE: FiberClassics P-51 now Comp-ARF P-51 - 7/21/2004 7:36:01 PM   
schroedm



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Status: offline 		Tobbe,

VERY nice!!! What did you cover it in?? Can you still see the panel lines and rivets etc through whatever it is?

Also, did you buy the Comp-ARF kit or an older FiberClassics kit?

Finally, which retracts did you use??

Thanks,
Mark

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RE: FiberClassics P-51 now Comp-ARF P-51 - 7/21/2004 8:01:54 PM   
Tobbe



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Status: offline 		Thanks,
It's covered with Flair Aluclad and yes you can see everyting, rivets panellines. The great thing is that there are not a singel panel that's not dented just like the real thing. I bought the Composite-arf. I've got it to my frontdoor in a week. It's made for germanmade retracts but I rebuilt it for Robart 85 offset retracts.
Tobbe

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RE: FiberClassics P-51 now Comp-ARF P-51 - 7/21/2004 8:43:04 PM   
JeffH


 

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Status: offline 		It will take quite some time to complete one of these kits. It is alot of work setting things up, and the instructions are of little help. The big advantage is the molded in details and such, but that is the only time saver. The construction and set up takes just as long as standard kit. Also, you can't always trust what they say AND spars and internal structure may differ from wing panel to wing panel. The one that my dad had, had the spars in different locations. He worked pretty steady on it at night for about 9 months to get it done. The painting is certainly the quickest part due to little surface prep needed. But WHEW is everything else a nightmare. You would think that as big as it is, it would be easy to work on, but not so. He had to place things in difficult location due to balance concerns. But when it was all done, no lead was needed. His was just shy of 40 lbs RTF with SCALE billet aluminum exhaust, scale wheels, all doors, sliding canopy operable via transmitter, and had the heavy german retracts. Its a great looking plane when done, but i dont think it saves that much time in the end considering the re-engineering that has to be done.

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RE: FiberClassics P-51 now Comp-ARF P-51 - 7/21/2004 11:39:55 PM   
schroedm



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Status: offline 		Tobbe,

Best of luck with the maiden flight! Let us know how it went.

Would you say that the kit was a nightmare to build or not too bad??

Rgds,
Mark

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RE: FiberClassics P-51 now Comp-ARF P-51 - 7/22/2004 1:55:01 AM   
gary9648


 

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Status: offline 		I am just starting to build one also, and have already found out that the wing ribs are not in the same location from panel to panel. I'm installing Sierra retracts and wheels.
it is not a drop in fit either. You definiatly have to engineer a lot of things. I am installing a 3W 75cc engine in this one. It's a shame that such a nice set of molds would up in the hands of people who don't care enough to provide a good set of instructions and hardware to go along with it. Also they were supposed to come out with drop tanks, sliding canopy, cockpit kit etc. they now say it's not going to happen. You are on your own.
Maaybe they will read this thread and make the nessary changes to make this the world class kit .

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RE: FiberClassics P-51 now Comp-ARF P-51 - 7/22/2004 3:19:28 AM   
Mustang51


 

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Status: offline 		Tobbee,
What are you doing?
Mounting the batteries inside the hottest(killer of all things electrical) part of the airplane?
Not to mention on the fire wall with out even so much as vibration insulation.

Another thing.. When you secure batteries? Secure the packs across the lengh of the pack, not width. You're placing Stress points on the battery conectors.

You've been warned.

-Mustang51

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RE: FiberClassics P-51 now Comp-ARF P-51 - 7/22/2004 10:28:13 AM   
Tom Verstappen



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From: MolAntwerp, BELGIUM
Status: offline 		Hi Mark,

Take a look at these sites.

http://proscalemodels.com/Gallery/p51/
http://www.igmustang.ch/jgmustang/

Good luck
Tom

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RE: FiberClassics P-51 now Comp-ARF P-51 - 7/22/2004 5:23:49 PM   
Tobbe



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Status: offline 		Thanks for the tip, the batteries do have vibrationmaterial behind them and they are not going to be in warm airflow. I will change the straps,
Thanks again
Tobbe

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RE: FiberClassics P-51 now Comp-ARF P-51 - 7/23/2004 10:20:40 PM   
v6goose



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Status: offline 		Hi guys...

I have been planning (in my head) a big Mustang for a loooooooooooong time, and will be into it next year.

The ProScale page above has accounted for many long nights dreaming about how to do stuff...

I would love to see that project finish... anyone know the guys building it?

Q: Is the Mustang on the IGMustang page above a FibreClassics?

I am still deep in researching which Mustang to build, there as so many to choose from, kits, plans
ARF's etc...

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RE: FiberClassics P-51 now Comp-ARF P-51 - 7/23/2004 10:28:14 PM   
schroedm