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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/13/2004 7:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		You might not think MK is serious, but nitro engines have been around a lot longer than temp guns! A drop of water can tell you a lot about an engine's temp.

The spit method isn't really very accurate for several reasons. After a a vanilla milk shake it sizzles much faster than say...after a cheese burger! Plus the cheese is hard to get off of the engine once it cooks on Only teasing! people have used spit for years, just swallow your food first!

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/13/2004 7:13 PM   
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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/13/2004 7:16 PM   
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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/13/2004 7:43 PM   
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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/13/2004 7:43 PM   
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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/14/2004 2:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Has anyone heard of Horizon replacing clutch's on the mayhem rtr or pro versions because of light duty clutch shoes or something. Could be just a rumor but it is a problem i am experiencing.

Well my experience with the Mayhem RTR is as follows:

Took out of the box, was missing the entire starter and shaft. Called Horizon said they would ship me one. They shipped me the wrong part. Sent me the pull start starter shaft.Said that they are backordered and i will get one as soon as they arrive.Just have to keep starting with my De Walt. Also had a cracked fuel tank where the top most screw in the tank had cracked the plastic it was screwed into.Horizon did replace it also free of charge .Went ahead and raced it last Sunday for the first time and took second place with it stock out of the box. Very nice buggy for the money with great support.

Problems i'm having:

Cluctch seems to not engage unless i hammer the throttle.It has no acceleration from a dead stop.Seems like it takes awhile for it to go after i hammer the throttle. Also the idle increases after i let off the gas after coming to a stop. Thought that the new tank might keep this from happining.


I really enjoy this buggy and any info you might have please help me out.


Thanks ........Nitrobob :-)

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/14/2004 2:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		well the info you are provided is conflicting.

If the clutch doesnt engage fully until you hammer it is sounds like you have a late stall clutch- tight springs, light shoes etc. But then you are saying it bogs on the take off meaning it takes a while to get upto speed. this means one of a few things- it is engaging too early and bogging because of this because that stock sportwerks motor isnt as torquey as others. Then it idles erratically when idling after running. Id say mess with your low speed needle. its either too rich or wayyy too lean- most likely too lean. A good way of checking the shoes from engaging too early is when its on the starter box. with the wheels free wheeling-at idle- does it spin the wheels? If so clutch is engaging too early. That could be your problem.

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/14/2004 2:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes the wheels spin if they are not touching anything but when i set it on the ground it does'nt roll forward or anything. It just seems like it has no "tire spinning" acceleration from a dead stop full throttle punch. But as long as im running around it seems fine. The idle is not eratic it just seems like the rpms aren't coming down after i left of the throttle. Thanks for the help

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/14/2004 3:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well its going to idle high after you bring it in after a good run for a few seconds..If you were to count the seconds it should be between 5-7 seconds before it winds back down to a steady ide; if its longer the LSN is too lean- richen it. If its less- lean it the slightest bit. Of course this is all when its upto normal operating temp.

If the wheels are spinning at idle when off the ground- your accelleration problem is right there. The clutch is engaging too early. You need newer tougher springs. i dont know what those mayhems come with OEM, but there too weak for my liking if they are spinning the wheels off the ground.

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/14/2004 3:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can't speak for the .26, Mine is a .21 and it has the strongest bottom end of any .21 engine I've seen. It's strong on top end, but nothing more than average. Of the people I've spoken with that race around here who own one they've all said that they feel the engine is designed more for low end. The .26 is definitely torquey! I haven't driven one yet, but I've seen them first hand dancing on the back tires out of almost every turn, or throwing monster roster tails to the tune of being pretty much uncontrollable on low end unless you ease into the throttle. This is the first time I've heard of one bogging on low end. I believe it's probably in tuning. It's also the first time I've heard anyone say they aren't as torquey as others. The people who own them aren't saying that, my self included. Most say they think they could stand to be a little less torquey. Some engines are strong on bottom end, some mid, some top end. From my experience and that of my friends that own a Mayhem it difinitely doesn't match the description of "not as torquey."

Don't mean to try and shoot anybody down, but that's just not the experience I've had, or the experience my friends have described. When you're with a bunch of guys on the weekend who've been around nitros for years and hear them laughing and saying, "My God!" when they hammer the throttle of a Mayhem on pavement how much more torque can you get? I've heard it called a rocket by more than one or two people who really know nitros around here.

Sorry to disagree, but I do!

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/14/2004 4:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yea its all good. this forum is all about opinions.....I have seen the Sportwerks .21's run, and I dont find them to be anything special at all.. Afew of the local racers have them and run them at the track- Its an overpriced POS motor. For the $259 they go for, Id MUCH MUCH MUCH rather buy myself a nice Italian motor.

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/14/2004 5:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Skyline,

I just realized that I had changed my signature earlier today. It wasn't meant to be directed at you. It was meant to be a joke for someone else. I looked back at my post and when I saw it I thought to myself you probably think it was meant for you. Sorry if you thought that cause it wasn't.

If you're upset because I wasn't interested in the Novarossi engines you sent me a PM about I apologize about that too, but the first site I checked had them cheaper and no Pay-Pal fees.

The Mayhem engines are $189.99 for the .21 and $129.99 for the .26 at Horizon

You're right it's all about opinions! Didn't mean to get you upset! If my signature comes up this time it's by accident because I didn't think I clicked it the last time. I'll change it as soon as I post this.

I don't know why but it's putting my signature on here even when I don't check the box.

It just did it again so I deleted it in settings. Honest it wasn't meant for you and could have been taken the wrong way...sorry!

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/14/2004 7:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Said it right oldchopdoc! I got my camera interface to work with my PC now (I didn't notice the cut in the USB cable to the computer from the camera). Now that everything is working fine, I will start recording videos and taking pictures of my baby! I love this buggy a ton!

As for your problems with the .26 engine, I can honestly say that my initial problems were during the break-in period. But that is to be expected. I did a rushed break-in method where I had the buggy off its wheels and idled one tank away. After that, I just drove the SOB like mad. Can't say it's dead because it just takes my abuse and wants more. This engine is...scary. I am eager to try out the .21 version of this engine. If it is as oldchopdoc describes it, then the price for this engine is way too cheap. But then again, does everything that performs well have to cost $300+?

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/14/2004 3:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		So no one has heard about Horizon giving new clutch shoes for the faulty ones they have installed in there kits.

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/14/2004 4:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's the first I've heard of it, but mine are working fine. Anyway, Dig around the threads. I can't find it right now, but there's are thread about a 4 shoe clutch that's just about indistructable. 2 gallons and no wear! I'd find it for you, but gotta go to an appointment.

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/14/2004 4:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		oldchopdoc,

Its all good.

Im VERY Curious as to which website you found a Novarossi Rex P5 for less than $255 at? Please let me know!

As for the Prices on the Sportwerks Motors- Im just going by what one of our LHS sells them for as Im not too interested in them and didnt care to research them online. Well if they are going for that cheap- I might just get one to try out. I might find a good club racing motor there.

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/14/2004 4:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		And the 4 shoes clutchs that are adjustable that Grahama and Myself have been having great luck with are the Werks Racing 4 Shoe Clutchs.

www.acehardwarehobbies.com

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/15/2004 3:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nitrobob - you were asking about Horizon replacing faulty clutch shoes for free. It's true! Here's a link to another Mayhem thread . . . on the first page, a lot of people are talking about the faulty shoes they received. It appears that if you have the lucky (or should I say, unlucky) Mayhem, then they will send you the proper pair of clutch shoes for free. Apparently Horizon accidentally sent out some Mayhems with light clutch shoes or something . . . not exactly sure, but it seems like they are backing up their product 100%, so good for them.

Look for posts by Adams . . . he explains the problem adequately.

http://rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?s=7b9285c1199a02c19b7ecf3fbaefcc3e&threadid=46319&perpage=30&pagenumber=1

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/15/2004 4:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks alot Dacarbon, that is exactly what i was looking for. All the problems he describes are what i have gone or going through, thanks alot again. YOU DA MAN

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/15/2004 7:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just ordered the Werks racing clutch set from acehardwarehobbies.com! I cant wait to try it out!

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/15/2004 6:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey, what do you guys think about the springs that come on the Mayhem? Too soft?

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/15/2004 8:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would say they are too soft. That is why I upped the shock oil vesocity to compensate the dampening.

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/15/2004 8:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is upping the oil viscosity (I guess to something like a 40wt) better for performance than simplying buying stiffer springs?

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/15/2004 11:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey everyone, I recently got a RTR mayhem and have posted on a few other forums without getting an answer. I have been having alot of problems with the one way bearing in the back of the motor that turns the motor over with the drill start. What happens it the drill start turns but the oneway bearing dosn't catch and turn the motor over. I called horizon and they said this sometimes happens during breakin and I should rremove the backplate and clean the one way bearing and it should be fine. Well I did that and it worked for a little while than it happened again and agian!!!!

I'm too the point of just wanting to get the other backplate and lower motor mounts to use a started box, but I wanted to hear if anyone had had a similiar experience. Maybe I just need a new one bearing, but it always works when I clean it.

Also what do you guys with the .26 have the needles set at? I have the HSN set at 1 and 3/4 turn from closed and the LSN at 3/4 from closed. These are quite far from the factory setting of 3.5 for the HSN and 2.5 for the LSN, but it seems to run fine and has been in the 220-250 range. I'm new to the whole nitro thing so anything you guys want to share about tuning this particular engine would be apreciated.

Also anyone now how the sportwerks .21 compares to the .26?

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RE: any one got a MAYHEM BUGGY!!!! - 8/16/2004 12:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Midnight oil! Good to know another Mayhem owner!

With your problem with the one-way bearing, I can honestly say I have not experienced that with my buggy. If you clean it and it works just fine, then there is nothing wrong with your one-way. Perhaps there is a minute amount of oil leaking from the bushing from your backplate? I know pullstart engine owners go through this problem sometimes and that is a sign of changing the bushing on the back plate. I could be wrong here, so please don't quote me on this entirely. I have had only a couple other experiences similar to yours with pullstart engines.

The .26 engine is a monster. It takes off like a rocket. Pretty much all I can say about that engine. It has a ton of low end, however the top-end can be fixed up with a top-end pipe. I think the pipe that the Mayhem comes with is a 53 - low end pipe. As far as racing goes, I do not think this engine is race legal. I know my club track does not allow the .26. You would be better of with a .21 engine if you plan on racing. The Sportwerks .21 engine seems to be quite a power house itself! Oldchopdoc has that engine. He can give you more information on that.

As far as the needle settings go, it all depends on your climate/temperature. Usually on hot summer days, where the air is leaner, you might want to lean your settings to compensate for the thinner air. On colder days, richen your needle settings to compensate for the denser air. That is all I can suggest right now. Make sure the buggy takes off when you punch the throttle, however, it should not die out. Make sure there is a thick plume of smoke when you floor it, then watch the smoke slowly disappear, but only to a faint sight. There are other people here who are better and more patient than I am that can explain how to tune an engine.

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