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Skullder -> Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (7/30/2004 4:17:57 AM)
This is just a short review for the SS .40 since i couldn't find any others on site. Specifications: Wingspan- 52.75 '' Length- 48'' Wing Area- 593 sq. in. Rec Engines: .40 - .46 2C .50 - .56 4c Engine Used: .52 Vmax Pro This is my 2nd glow engine plane so I don't have very much to compare to. Construction: Construction was quite easy and only took three days, although the actual time spent working on the plane was around 6 hours more or less. The aluminum engine mount comes preinstalled and uses a clamp on design so no drilling is required. All piece were covered well with no wrinkles. All parts of the plane fit together nicely. The only misses are the wing dihedral, which calls for 3/8'' - for a snug fit my dihedral was a bit over an inch. Also, the two long rods which are supposed to be threaded were not so i just made z-bends. As a bonus, the plane comes with hardware for both a taildragger and tricycle setup. I chose taildragger. The plane came out tail-heavy, so i attached the battery pack and two additional cells to the front of the plane. First Flight: I had some trouble with the first flight since this is my first non-trainer plane. Since the r/c airfield had been sold to the city, i flew the plane off a road on the city outskirts. With trees lining tall on one side and a ditch on the other side, it was pretty stupid of me to fly there. I could find no better place though. The plane picked up speed fast but still took its time getting into the air. On low rates, the elevator was very ineffective. After a bit of up-trim the plane flew well. The plane felt really tipsy and flew very fast compared to the SIG LT-40. Whenever i slowed down the plane would descend. Still though, the plane was fun to fly. On high rates the plane flew well, provided i didn't slow down. After a few practice passes and close calls with the trees, i lined the plane up and landed it with some difficulty, except i forgot to close the throttle trim so the plane didn't slow down AT ALL until it crossed the road and went into 1 metre tall grass when i tried to lift off again. No damage. Second flight: The second flight was a lot better. This time i flew off a small piece of bumpy land surrounded by 2ft tall grass and a large hill on the other side. I replaced the front foam tires with 3.5'' dubro tires and removed the weights from the front of the airplane. The plane flew straight and perfectly. Turns were tight and aerobatics were good. However, the plane couldn't fly vertical forever. This plane is a good step up from a trainer but might be a bit fast for flying from random areas (unless you've flown it for a bit). Landing was a bit of a problem; with full flaps i came in perpendicular to the 'runway' but fell about 6 inches short and went into the tall grass. No damage again. I will probably move the CG back a bit to make the plane more twitchy. Overall, the plane is a good fun flying plane. It does everything well but nothing extremely well. I would recommend it as a 2nd plane if you have a real runway or airfield for first flights. This plane is the type of plane one can just kick around and do anything with since its so cheap. The ultrastick .40 may be better with its quad flaps, but i prefer the smaller wingspan of the super stick since i dont need to unbolt the wing for transport. Here are a couple bad quality pictures.

DTB -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (8/8/2004 6:37:15 PM)
Good Job Skullder, I have a SS .40 also. One item I think that needs to be mentioned is that the plane is covered in shelf paper which can not be handled like monokote or ultrakote. Shelf paper is definately not user friendly. I completely recovered mine because of this. Any cuts have to be repaired using clear shipping tape if possible or any peel and stick covering. I hate shelf paper. The wing ribs are flimsy. I reinforced the wing ribs with a horizontal brace. See photos below and see the horizontal brace between the ribs under the covering. This plane is indeed fast. Much faster than any trainer. I have a mousse can muffler on mine with an OS .46fx spinning a APC 11x8. My plane has been radared by a fellow club memeber who is a police officer doing well over 100 MPH. I also removed the plastic wing tips and trashed them. I built my own wing tips which look so much better and are more streamline (no bulky wing tips). Standard servos work fine in this plane. The control surfaces are small which is why this plane can be flown at such a fast rate. A Ultra stick should never be tried to be flown as fast as the super stick. The SS .40 plane is fast, but it is heavy also for it's size. Mine weighs 6 pounds even. This is heavy for a .40 size plane. The Super Stick is built totally different from the Ultra stick 40. This plane will land easily once you get more time at the control. I have a Futaba 9C to operate mine. I have flaperons and spoilerons setup. Spoilerons will allow the plane to do some pretty good harriers. The extra power up front will allow it to be hovered also. Doesn't do very well with the small control surfaces, but will hover and torque roll with enough power, but it is no where near a 3D plane. Very acrobatic though.

Edge 540 -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (8/24/2004 11:38:46 PM)
I just finished an ultra stick 40. If anyone is interested I could do a report. let me know. I have not flown it yet but the first flight will be on Sunday. I can't wait.

griffinmt -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (9/2/2004 2:52:10 PM)
I would be interested in the U.S.40 info, as I am in the process of setting up my U.S.60 with a Magnum XLS91a installed. After sticking in an 1800 mah pack behind the servos, the balance comes out pretty darn close. may have to add a tiny bit to the tail. I also just got a Futaba 7CAP to use with it, and I am having some trouble figuring the right way to set up the flaps to be used with take-off, landing, for just air brakes by themselves and also for the crow setup. Also getting mixed 'signals' (excuse the pun) about whether to be using ch1 + 7 for ailerons with ch 5 + 6 for flaps, or to use ch 1 + 6 for ailerons and ch 5 + 7 for flaps. Anyone supplying specific setup details would would have my gratitude. [sm=spinnyeyes.gif] Martyn

DTB -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (9/2/2004 6:47:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ultra Stick I just finished an ultra stick 40. If anyone is interested I could do a report. let me know. I have not flown it yet but the first flight will be on Sunday. I can't wait. Ultra, how did the flight go?

DTB -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (9/2/2004 6:59:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: griffinmt I would be interested in the U.S.40 info, as I am in the process of setting up my U.S.60 with a Magnum XLS91a installed. After sticking in an 1800 mah pack behind the servos, the balance comes out pretty darn close. may have to add a tiny bit to the tail. I also just got a Futaba 7CAP to use with it, and I am having some trouble figuring the right way to set up the flaps to be used with take-off, landing, for just air brakes by themselves and also for the crow setup. Also getting mixed 'signals' (excuse the pun) about whether to be using ch1 + 7 for ailerons with ch 5 + 6 for flaps, or to use ch 1 + 6 for ailerons and ch 5 + 7 for flaps. Anyone supplying specific setup details would would have my gratitude. [sm=spinnyeyes.gif] Martyn I have a 9C which the 7C is close to, but not the same. Some of the programming is different and the operation of the radio is different. First read the manual, this has a lot of useful information about setting up channels. If I can remember correctly, set the aileron on Ch 1 and Ch 6. Flaps for 5 and 7. You will have to do some mixing. 7 servos and a 7-ch radio. You will use all your mixes doing this. Being that I am at work and not in front of my radio or manual. Just start off with reading the manual. It should have a section in there indicating how to set this up.

griffinmt -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (9/2/2004 7:33:31 PM)
quote: I have a 9C which the 7C is close to, but not the same. Some of the programming is different and the operation of the radio is different. First read the manual, this has a lot of useful information about setting up channels. If I can remember correctly, set the aileron on Ch 1 and Ch 6. Flaps for 5 and 7. You will have to do some mixing. 7 servos and a 7-ch radio. You will use all your mixes doing this. Being that I am at work and not in front of my radio or manual. Just start off with reading the manual. It should have a section in there indicating how to set this up. Never having seen a 9c, it is hard for me to judge how similar they are. But when trying to follow the numerous examples posted about the 9c, the process begins to differ in a hurry. As far as the manual is concerned, there are lots of discrete examples for doing various things that are essentially straight forward. But the correct combination of settings (and sequence) for setting the flaps normal, low, high, and for crow do not exist. The closest they come is doing this for Flaperon settings, not for discrete Flaps. Just when I think it is going ok, I find that the flap on Ch6 moves but Ch5 doesn't. While tring to resolve this, I end up with one flap high and the other neutral when in normal mode (etc etc). Now I understand why several of the folks I know got the JR 8103 when they got their sticks. It covers all the steps to do this in the back of the stick manual. Martyn

DTB -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (9/2/2004 11:22:45 PM)
quote: Never having seen a 9c, it is hard for me to judge how similar they are. But when trying to follow the numerous examples posted about the 9c, the process begins to differ in a hurry. As far as the manual is concerned, there are lots of discrete examples for doing various things that are essentially straight forward. But the correct combination of settings (and sequence) for setting the flaps normal, low, high, and for crow do not exist. The closest they come is doing this for Flaperon settings, not for discrete Flaps. Just when I think it is going ok, I find that the flap on Ch6 moves but Ch5 doesn't. While tring to resolve this, I end up with one flap high and the other neutral when in normal mode (etc etc). Now I understand why several of the folks I know got the JR 8103 when they got their sticks. It covers all the steps to do this in the back of the stick manual. Martyn Hey Martyn Wait, Futaba makes great radios. The instruction manual may not show what you want to do, but don't down the entire company for that. I can't believe you've never seen a 9C. Below are the comparisions. The 7C is a fine radio, but can't touch the 9C. [img]http://www.futabarc.com/radios/futj69-main-2.jpg[/img] Futaba 7CA Air Rating: 3 / 5 Usage: Air Channels: 7 Modulation: PPM/PCM Frequency: 72 Computerized: Yes General Specs: - Trainer Mode: Both - Mode Select: Yes - 10 Models Controls and Trim: - Analog Trim - 7 Channel Servo Reverse Special Functions: - 3 Mixes Acrobatic Functions - Aileron to Rudder Mixing - Air Brake Control - Elevator to Flap Mixing - Elevon Function - Flapperon Function - Snap Roll Switch - V-Tail Function Applications: - All Purpose - Basic Trainer - Combat - Competition Airplanes - Pattern/Aerobatics - Standard Airplane Street Price: $319.99 [img]http://www.futabarc.com/radios/futj85-main.jpg[/img] Futaba 9CA Air Rating: 5 / 5 Usage: Air Channels: 9 Modulation: PCM Frequency: 72Mhz Computerized: Yes General Specs: - Trainer Mode: Both - Mode Select: No - 8 Models - Model Copy Controls and Trim: - Digital Trim - Trim Reset - Trim Memory - Sub Trim - 9 Channel Servo Reverse - 2 Slide Controls Special Functions: - 7 Mixes - End Point Adj. - Dual Rates - Exponential - ATL - Assignable Switches - Assignable Channels Display Warning: - LCD Display - Low Battery Warning - Timer Acrobatic Functions - Aileron Differential - Aileron to Rudder Mixing - Elevator to Flap Mixing - Elevon Function - Flap to Aileron - Flap to Elevator - Flap Travel - Flapperon Function - Landing Mix - Snap Roll Switch Helicopter Functions - Governor Program - Gyro Program - Idle Up - Pitch Curve - Pitch Trim - Revo Mix - Rudder to Throttle - Swash AFR (CCPM) - Swash Select - Swash Throttle Mix - Swash Type - Throttle Curve - Throttle Cut - Throttle Hold Sailplane Functions - Adjustable Exponential - Aileron Differential - Aileron to Flap Mixing - Air Brake Function - Butterfly Mixing - Elevator to flap - Elevon Function - Flap to Aileron Mixing - Flap Travel - Flapperon Function - Speed Presets - Start Presets Applications: - All Purpose - CCPM Helicopter - Competition - Competition Airplanes - Competition Helicopter - Competition Sailplane - Pattern/Aerobatics Street Price: $349.99 Notes: Price includes receiver, but not servos. I did a search on www.Futabarc.com and found this for you. Is the 7C capable of being used with a complex 7-servo aerobatic model with separate flap and aileron servos? Yes, but while you can use it with one such as the Ultra Stick, it is somewhat limited and not capable of full span ailerons. First you will need to plug your flaps into channels 5 and 7. Next go into your Para menu and make channel 5 Null. Next you will need to activate Flaperons and Flap Trim, setting the percentage of your Flap Trim as needed. Then go into your Airbrake menu and activate it, again setting the percentages as needed. Now you will want to go into your Elevator/Flap mix and activate it. Select your 3-position switch for this and once you have set your percentages as needed, you will want to make this active in the Up position. Then we will want to do three Pmixes. The first one will be Offset as master, to channel 7, put this on your 3-way switch in the Down position, and set the rate to +100%. The second one will be Offset as master, to channel 5, again put this on the 3-way switch in the Down position and set the rate to +100%. The third will be for your Flaps on a separate switch, so go into the Pmix, making Offset the master once more, and make channel 5 the slave. Set this to a separate switch in the Down position and make the rate -100%. Now you will want to go into Para and set channel 7 to whichever switch you want to control channel 5 and 7. Let's say switch E. Just remember to leave channel 5 Nulled. This will give you the following. 3-way switch in the Up position will give you some Aileron with your Elevator, in the Center position you will have normal functions of all channels, in the Down position you will have Airbrake with up flaperons, down flaps, and down elevator. You should be set now. Sometime, all you have to do is do a little searching. [;)] Let us know how it goes, DTB

DTB -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (9/2/2004 11:24:41 PM)
Double posted by mistake [:@]

griffinmt -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (9/3/2004 1:22:20 AM)
Thanks, I had found the FAQ at Futaba, but had no luck with it. I think that is because the entire description is taken out of context with all the rest of the setup activities ( - or maybe I am dumber than I look!) I 'seem' to have it close to what I want by just starting from scratch on a reset model entry. My channels are as follows: 1-Right Aileron 2-Elevator 3-Throttle 4-Rudder 5-Right Flap 6-Left Flap 7-Left Aileron The model has the following characteristics: All switches UP/CENTER for normal mode. D/R,EXP SW>- CH>1-AIL D/R> 100% EXP> 0% E.POINT (as needed to limit throws) Ch5> 90% , 75% Ch7> 90% , 75% SUB-TRIM (as needed to 'center' servos) Ch1> +40 Ch2> +33 Ch3> -100 Ch4> +25 Ch5> -8 Ch6> -100 Ch7> -22 REVERSE Ch3 , Ch7 TH-CUT RATE> 22% SW> F(down) PARAMETER TYPE>ACRO MODUL>PPM CH5-SW> G CH7-SW> G TIMER TIME> 07:00 MODE>DOWN SW> A(down) PMIX1 ON/OFF MAS> OFS SLV> CH1 SW> G(back) RT> +100% PMIX2 ON/OFF MAS> OFS SLV> CH6 SW> G(back) RT> -100% PMIX3 INH FLAPRN ON DIFF> 0% AIL-2>CH6 FL-TRIM ON RT> 0% , 0% A.BRAKE ON/OFF ELE> 0% FLP> 0% ELE-FLP ON RT> 0% SW>-- FLP-ELE INH V-TAIL INH ELEVON INH AIL-RUD INH SNAP INH Obviously, this isn't final. I have full thows for all and they need to be adjusted appropriately, and capabilities such as SNAP have not been set up yet. I will do those later when the above basic setup is trimmed and airworthy. But I am still willing to try a very different setup if anyone has it working properly (without Y cables). Martyn

Skullder -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (9/3/2004 4:30:39 AM)
well i did the next few flights at an abandoned oilrig inside a huge wheat field. i removed the blue exhaust extension on my last flight and the plane started to handle better, fly faster, engine sounded nicer, and vertical improved tremendously...almost unlimited vertical maybe? i dont know, because i crashed the plane soon after i decided to do an outside loop, and since i was speeding along at full throttle the diameter of the loop was larger than the distance from the plane to the ground..just as i thought it would pull up, the plane plowed into the ground..i was half expecting it to skim the crops and keep flying. Damage? surprizingly, only a broken prop, detached gear, a few bent screws, and a detached tail. The main reason i crashed was because the plane was further out than i thought it was, and did the loop over the peak of a hill...at least thats what i like to think. :( Anyway, all the damage is repaired but i wont be flying the plane anytime soon since i moved outa the city. The SS sure is sturdy though. And DTB: I couldnt agree with you more - the planes a flying brick :) Also, i havent had problems with the wing ribs- even with my crappy flying. Im not to sure about the covering though since this is only my second balsa plane.

Edge 540 -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (9/4/2004 3:07:23 AM)
first flight Sunday was our club fly in. I came over to the field after church and watched for about an hour as others flew. There were limbo poles set up for a contest. (it's impressive to watch a 60 size 4* with a tuned pipe fly through limbo poles and do a victory roll) I had fun watching others fly and compete (all in fun) to see who is better. I had 4 or 5 people that looked over my plane and gave their input on any thing that seemed wrong. I range checked and double checked hinges control rods, linkages exc. My ultra stick is the red white and blue color scheme. Great looking plane. It was windy 10-15 on the ground and very overcast. After checking the engine and setting up dual rates another club member took it up for the first flight just to make sure everything was fine. It was only a few clicks off of straight and level, but the wind probably made a big difference. He did 5 or 6 circuits and brought it in. The wind was exactly perpendicular to the runway making it tricky but all want well. In the pits, I checked everything over again and after letting several others fly limbo I flew myself. I took my time letting it get airborne. I lifted the tail and waited until the plane came off on it's own. It took off gently and I banked left. After several gentle circuits I did some rolls. The rolls were axial and fast. The only problem I had was that in the white gray sky, the white wing tips blended into nothing. The actual visible wingspan was about half of the actual wingspan. This is no problem, but it does make it a little more difficult than some. I had no problem with orientation. The wind picked up, and there were lots of people watching, so I felt more comfortable just doing some circuits a few rolls and then trying some approaches. (cross wind) The plane has great slow flight characteristics. I flew 3 slow, cross wind low approaches and brought the plane in for a successful landing. The big counter balanced rudder has a lot of authority. I have it set up for 2 inches each way. (3 is recommended!) The cross wind landing was no problem. I hope to fly it more on Sunday and test the aerobatic capabilities of the airframe. I was not really in the mood to try knife edge snap rolls, inverted flight, exc since the weather was less that ideal, it was my first flight, and I had a lot more audience that normal. I will try some of it this weekend and report back. Can anyone tell me how I can post pictures from kodak easy share software? I will post pics if I can. -Ultra Stick

DTB -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (9/4/2004 3:14:24 AM)
Ultra, I'm happy your Ultra Stick 40 did well. You will love this plane more and more with time. The easiest way to post a photo is to upload it from your hard drive or set a link by using the img and /img in [] [ img] web photo location [/ img] (ofcourse, no spaces)

griffinmt -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (9/5/2004 12:28:56 AM)
Well, I took the 60 up for its maiden flight today. Or should I say, an instructor did to 'check' it out. It took off in just a few feet with only a little elevator assist (no flaps). He flew a few circuits, did some hands off, and that resulted in only a single click of down elevator. Ran a few snap rolls (manually) and loops (fairly tight) and then brought it back down. Most of the flight was at 1/3 throttle, and landing speed was quite brisk (but clean) even after idling before the last turn. That Magnum 91 really pushes the air and burns up the fuel in the tiny 11 oz tank pretty quick. Think I will search out a great planes 14 or 16 oz tank soon - there is plenty of room for it. I was real happy about all that, but it was my turn. Since this is the first plane I have tried other than my Kadet LT-40 (glider doesn't count!!), needless to say I was quite nervous (epecially with the heckles from the folks sitting behind me!). But it went up smooth (and fast), made some circuits (really wide and far) and managed to land it intact (with a bounce and stalled prop). Have done a couple of other flights (nothing more fancy than a couple of rolls and loops) and had to call it a day due to the heat. I think I am going to really like this plane, even if the radio is badly lacking in capability and pertinent information. My choice would likely be for the JR 8103 if I had to do it over again. I still cannot get the real flaps to operated as flaps independantly of any other surfaces and still have crow and spoilers. Next trip, I and going to do some more work on the D/R and EXP settings, and perhaps try some high altitude crow runs. Just for interest, this was my 7CAP setup for the flights: 1-Right Aileron 2-Elevator 3-Throttle 4-Rudder 5-Right Flap 6-Left Aileron 7-Left Flap All switches UP/CENTER for normal mode. D/R,EXP SW>- CH>1-AIL D/R> 100% EXP> -30% CH>2-ELE D/R> 100% EXP> -30% CH>3-THR EXP> 0% CH>4-RUD D/R> 100% EXP> -30% E.POINT (as needed to limit throws) Ch5> 90% , 75% Ch7> 90% , 75% SUB-TRIM (as needed to 'center' servos) Ch1> +4 Ch2> +6 Ch3> -100 Ch4> -35 Ch5> +7 Ch6> -17 Ch7> -26 REVERSE Ch2, Ch3, Ch4, Ch7 TH-CUT RATE> 25% SW> F(down – trainer switch) PARAMETER TYPE>ACRO MODUL>PPM CH5-SW> G CH7-SW> G TIMER TIME> 07:00 MODE>DOWN SW> A(down) PMIX1 ON/OFF MAS> OFS SLV> CH1 SW> G(back) RT> +50% PMIX2 ON/OFF MAS> OFS SLV> CH6 SW> G(back) RT> -50% PMIX3 INH MAS>CH5 SLV>CH7 SW> D (down) RT> -100% > +100% OFS> SET FLAPRN ON DIFF> 0% AIL-2> CH6 FL-TRIM ON RT> 0% > 0% OFS> SET A.BRAKE INH ELE> 0% FLP> 0% ELE-FLP ON RT> 0% SW>-- FLP-ELE INH RT> 0% OFS> SET V-TAIL INH ELE> 0% RUD> 0% CH> * ELEVON INH AIL> 0% ELE> 0% DIFF> 0% AIL-RUD INH RT> 0% SNAP INH AIL> 0% ELE> 0% RUD> 0% Martyn

mkranitz -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (9/15/2004 12:51:03 AM)
Hey, nice review. If you don't mind, I would like to feature your review in our Product Guide so more guys can see it. Click the "Editors" link atop any page and go from there! Michael

Pjtg0707 -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (9/16/2004 6:38:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mkranitz Hey, nice review. If you don't mind, I would like to feature your review in our Product Guide so more guys can see it. Click the "Editors" link atop any page and go from there! Michael Hmm. Which review are you talking about? This thread started out as H9 Superstick 40, then it got turned into H9 Ultrastick and morphs into setting up Futaba 7CA and Futaba 9CA. [8\|]

griffinmt -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (9/16/2004 7:58:45 PM)
And you have my appologies for contributing to the 'theft' of this topic. When I went looking for info about the Ultra stick, this thread popped up and I proceeded to jump in. I suppose I should have just started a new thread. Sorry, Martyn

proulxlaw -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (3/6/2005 4:56:32 PM)
Where did you guys find the CG point in relation to the leading edge of the wing? I just built mine and I'm attempting to balance it and the plans say 1/8 behind main spar? I'm going to fly mine with skis as it is cold & snowy here and I am not waiting til spring. I'll post some pics of mine.

proulxlaw -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (3/6/2005 5:51:45 PM)
Here's a couple of pics of mine.

proulxlaw -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (3/14/2005 7:43:07 PM)
Maiden flight with my SS .40 was yesterday on Dubro skis. I set mine up as a taildragger. Plane flew very well and only needed a few clicks up elevater trim and she was perfect. I made about 8 flights with her without incident. However, on the last flight a cross wind caused a hard landing. This was not really very hard at all and it was about 1-2 feet off the runway and airspeed was very low. The tail completely broke away from the fuselage right at the beginning of the rudder. No other Damage occurred to the plane. Before flying the plane 3 seperate people at the field came over to me and said that I needed to be careful because the plane at the tail was really delicate. While I didn't notice any deficiencies during the building process, the tail just dropped off as if it were not even glued or connected to the rest of the plane. I have had hard landings and crashes before but, this plane really broke apart too easily. I am going to begin fixing it if possible tonight. Any suggestions from any of you folks?

DTB -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (3/14/2005 11:06:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Flieger Abwehr Maiden flight with my SS .40 was yesterday on Dubro skis. I set mine up as a taildragger. Plane flew very well and only needed a few clicks up elevater trim and she was perfect. I made about 8 flights with her without incident. However, on the last flight a cross wind caused a hard landing. This was not really very hard at all and it was about 1-2 feet off the runway and airspeed was very low. The tail completely broke away from the fuselage right at the beginning of the rudder. No other Damage occurred to the plane. Before flying the plane 3 seperate people at the field came over to me and said that I needed to be careful because the plane at the tail was really delicate. While I didn't notice any deficiencies during the building process, the tail just dropped off as if it were not even glued or connected to the rest of the plane. I have had hard landings and crashes before but, this plane really broke apart too easily. I am going to begin fixing it if possible tonight. Any suggestions from any of you folks? Sorry for the mishap. Sticks (all forms) have the rep of having weak tails unfortunately. What type of suggestions were you looking/asking for? I don't mind helping, but just need to know what help you need. I would suggest that you beef up the tail section if possible.

proulxlaw -> RE: Hangar 9 Super Stick .40 (3/15/2005 4:10:46 PM)
I emailed Horizon explaining what happened and I asked for a replacement and they said to package up the kit and mail it out for evaluation. I have "fixed" it by making a couple of balsa sheets to fit on each side of the fuse that also stick into the broken tail. Test fitted it then CA'd them in place on the fuse then connected the tail and CA'd that. I then cut a small access panel into the bottom of the fuse and drizzled thick CA onto the broken areas where they meet. Then replaced the small access panel with CA. It seems like it will hold and be strong enough, etc. but, I will soon find out. The repairs are not pretty but, I think it will fly again and hold up ok.

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