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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 12/21/2005 2:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the message there Brendan. You are fine using the 125 int F90. I'll be sure and educate the sales staff on that point.

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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 12/21/2005 11:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Mike! I look forward to getting the F90 in the air with the 125! If you have the time one more question please:

In the Horizon F90 service bulletin Horizon recomends: "The large size of the “3D” control surfaces requires powerful servos. The servos used must be 50 ounce inch torque or greater."

Do you think Hitec 5945MG's for the flight controls is overkill?

5945 specs:

Maximum Output

Torque:
181 oz-in.

Speed:
0.13 Sec/60 Degrees

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Brendan Taff

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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 12/22/2005 4:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Those specs look like way more than enough, but it'll certainly work. I assume the MG meas metal geats.I would go with metal gears at least on ailerons ifd you are running 3D throws.

I'm happy to have the opportunity to be here to help.

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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 12/28/2005 9:57 PM   
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With your new H9 designs can you please give some extra consideration to electric power? In particular, I find modifying ARFS to have battery hatches to be a hassle. I'd like to see your planes designed with top a access hatch for easy battery changes and maybe even include parts for a battery tray.

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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 1/3/2006 12:51 PM   
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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 1/13/2006 2:13 AM   
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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 1/27/2006 5:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		how about a 82 or 125 saito size sukhoi 31 wuth exagerated funtana style wing ( keep the tips rounded though) with a catchy black red yellow color scheme put wing more near center of fuse ( yak style ) maybe even a 2 position wing

oh yeah and desing an on board adustable center of gravity tuner using wieght (battery) try to make as uneversal as possible you guys should do it before your buddies across the gp


profile that an evo 46 flies extreme would be easy to sell


also from a hobby shop owner your1/4 scale super cub gets lots of requests



nice extra or something designed around evo 58 making a good size plane for the$$



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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 1/27/2006 5:57 AM   
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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 1/29/2006 6:26 PM   
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Mike, care to comment on which ones you have seen that actually are done right?

It is a very popular segment right now (50cc) and the Yak is a very popular plane design.

The majority of threads are from people mourning that EF has discontinued both their models.

I am looking at geting this bird right now for my DA-50 and the hoices are:

Lanier 87' (that new series of theirs looks real good)
Aeroworks Yak QB (84')
New Wild Hare Yak (80')
QQ Yak (85') - probably too expensive
Goldberg - too small

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IMO the Yak 54 is done a lot, but there are only a few that I've seen that are really done right. Kinda likr Extra's.



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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 1/30/2006 1:04 AM   
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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 1/30/2006 1:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		I havent seen any of those fly. I have no doubt that the QQ Yak will be excellent. If I were to choose from that list, I'd go with the QQ Yak.

Is the H9 Extra 260 smaller than you want for a DA-50?

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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 1/30/2006 8:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		TOC aviation and Aerotech also have 50 cc yaks.

Although I am not a product forcaster I forsee a 36ish percent plane for that cool looking 116. What will it be?

300, 330, 260, 230, Katana, Edge, Sukhoi 26/31, Yak54/55SP, Ultimate, Cap, Velox, Laser, Giles, Pitts, MX2, Zlin, Rebel 200, Staudacher, or?

I however vote for a 85" Funtana for For a DA50/Evo45

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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 2/7/2006 5:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Mike, from a fellow who has flown both the edge and the extra in competition, which would you say is the better between the two 33's H9 is currently offering? I want it primarily for 3D however I do not wish to dial alot of bad habits out. IE pitch coupling in knife edge flight. I have rescently flown the new H9 260 and loved it's performance with a moki 210. 1/4 throtttle knife edge all day long with no correcting! I was impressed. I love the scheme of the extra 330 but have always liked the aggresive lines of the edge. What do you say to making an extra 260 in a 33% version with maybe a colour scheme like the 46% ultimate. The 260 seems like a good meld of the two.

Anyways back to the main question:

Extra 330 or edege 540 . I have heard that the 330 is a much better all round flier with no bad tendancies. Your opinion would be of great value.

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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 2/7/2006 2:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Both have very little pitch or roll coupling. The Edge is better for 3D. In the case of the H9 Extra vs H9 Edge, both is similar for precision. Overall, I'd go with the Edge.

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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 2/7/2006 9:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		It seems that the edge (all edges) has lost popularity these days over the 260 and the YAK in compettition. Why is that when beside the straight leading edge it looks alot like a 260? It just how snap?

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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 2/8/2006 2:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		In competition, I have always felt the straight leading edge was peoblem. It doesnt presebt as well IMHO. My Carden Edge snapped very well. Though I also believe a well done 260 design (not any 260) is a superior airplane. The rudder power is stronger, and I think it rolls better. Yak 54 is similar.

Also, in the competition and non competition world, the popular models go in cycles. The Edge is a excellent airplane but it isnt the popular ticket today as it was a few years ago.

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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 2/11/2006 7:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just don't forget us electric guys. We need good mid-size airplanes that have easy access (batteries) and that don't use 10s batteries...I still have house payments. I have a funtana 40 with a Hacker and love it, I use larger tires and the H90 wheel pants they are a great value!

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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 2/13/2006 3:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mike,

I'm unsure of the best 3D prop to order for my F90 with a Saito 125. I broke in the engine with a Zinger 16x5 and plan to maiden it with this prop. I was thinking a Zinger 16x6 for good all around performance. I am useing 20% nitro fuel.

Could I get your opinion please?

Thanks,

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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 2/13/2006 8:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		I havent played with it enough to say for sure. We used the APC 16x 6 which worked well.

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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 5/21/2006 12:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mike,

I just read the Horizon add for the Zenoah 20cc Electric Ignition Gas Engine. The add says it would be a great engine for the Funtana 90. I have been flying my Funtana 90 with the Saito 125 and am very pleased with this combo. I have been eager to break into Gas engines though and this seems like a great chance to swap powerplants.

My question is have you dealt with this engine and what is your opinion about this 20cc engine on the Funtana 90? It swings the same props as the 125 but I'd love to gain experience from this small gasser until my budget allows bigger kits and gas engines.

Thanks for any feedback!

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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 5/26/2006 3:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		I havent triedit so I cant say. I do believe there is a weight penalty which is never good in a 3D model.

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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 5/30/2006 5:10 AM   
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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 5/30/2006 5:22 AM   
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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 5/31/2006 3:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Its built toaccept the Evolution 45 and DA-50. Its a perfect fit and a good size for the engines.

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RE: New Hanger 9 Planes - 5/31/2006 7:26 PM   
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