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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/2/2004 10:08 PM

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Yes, the long round switches are the 3 position switches and either can be the flight mode switch. No, the 2 position switches can't be used for the flight mode switch.

The snap roll switch (timer switch, trainer button, etc) on the aircraft is a push button on the top left hand side. On a heli this is changed to a momentary switch if I remember correctly (I don't have a heli version in front of me right now) moved to the back of the top left hand side, and where the push button is on the aircraft is replaced with the flight mode switch which is one of the 3 position switches. There is no difference in layout between the air and glider systems, only the front 2 upper labels on the faceplates for the switches are different.

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/3/2004 12:29 AM

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The snap roll switch (timer switch, trainer button, etc) on the aircraft is a push button on the top left hand side. On a heli this is changed to a momentary switch if I remember correctly (I don't have a heli version in front of me right now) moved to the back of the top left hand side, and where the push button is on the aircraft is replaced with the flight mode switch which is one of the 3 position switches. There is no difference in layout between the air and glider systems, only the front 2 upper labels on the faceplates for the switches are different.

OK, let me see if I have this.

Left, Top, Front:
Airplane, Glider: momentary push button labeled "Trainer Button" (acts as snap roll, timer)
Heli: 3 position flight mode switch

Left, Top, Rear:
Airplane, Glider: gear switch
Heli: momentary switch

Are there three flight mode switches on the Heli version?

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/3/2004 10:04 AM

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I would use the 8311 servos in a 1.40 pattern plane and nothing larger. I prefer the nylon gears due to low wear- O.K. in your opinion? I assume they would be about the same as the 8411sa's.

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/3/2004 11:24 PM

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Danny,
Can you post some clear pictures of the front and top of the two different cases for the 'heli' and 'airplane' versions of the 9303 TXs?
It was hard to see in the pictures on the Horizon website as there was some labeling covering some of the switches.
Will the trainer functions be compatible with 10 SX,II, and X model TXs? Is it compatible with any other JR TXs?
Is it 'Z" and 'S' pcm compatible?
When do you expect the manual to be posted or available for review?
Do the JR dealers have all the information on the different combinations of TXs,RXs, and servos available for the 9303 for ordering purposes? Do any dealers have them already on order?
Thansk again.

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/3/2004 11:37 PM

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Will I be able to transfer my models from my 8103 to a new 9303 via the trainer cord or will I have to manually enter the models into the new transmitter.

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/4/2004 12:33 AM

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I would think that you wouldn't be able to transfer the setup from the 8103 to the 9303 directly but the question to really ask is will the DataSafe 2 be able to save setups from the 9303? If not, will there be a software upgrade to make that feature available?

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/7/2004 10:37 PM

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That is correct on the switch layouts, there may be a couple other differences as well, I only have the aircraft version in front of me right now, but those are the main changes between the system types. There is 1 heli flight mode switch, but you can use another switch in conjuction with the flight mode switch in heli mode to get 2 more flight modes, this can be the switch of your choice.

Yes, it will work in a trainer set up w/ any other JR (or many Futaba systems with Hangar 9's Trainer link set up) system capable of a trainer system as well.

There is no ZPCM, but it has SPCM and PPM. Yes, dealers have info on what systems are available now, and we are accepting back orders from dealers.

We don't really recommend the 8311 for any aircraft at all, but I wouldn't use them in an aircraft over 1.20 size, the same as the 8411SA.

We have several pictures up online as well as brochures sent out to dealers and some other publications going out w/ pictures. Manuals for the systems are also up online.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Explore/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1370

It is not possible to transfer any other systems memory to or from a 9303 except when both systems are the 9303. I'm checking into the datasafe capability, but can only assume that if we do have this, it will be down the road a bit as it is developed.

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/7/2004 11:01 PM

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Excuse me for butting-in Danny.

The manuals for the 3 different versions of the 9303 are on the Horizon website if you dig deep enough into the links. They are in Adobe Acrobat .PDF format and are approximately 5Mb in size:

Airplane
9303 Acro Manual

Sailplane
Sailplane Manual Part1
Sailplane Manual Part2

Helicopter
Helicopter Manual

Reviewing the manuals may help to answer some questions.

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/7/2004 11:08 PM

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Actually the manuals are incorrect for switch layouts for the heli system in the switch layout diagram. The diagram in the heli manual is the same as the aircraft manual. This is being looked into. Going through the rest of the manual however, may provide some further insight.

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/7/2004 11:30 PM

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Question about the manuals. Each 9303 is going to have the same software in it. My question is if you order a heli version, does that mean you only will receive the heli manual and not get the manuals for the other software modes, airplane and sailplane??

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/8/2004 12:07 AM

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Danny- Thanks. Where is the gear switch located on the Heli model?

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/8/2004 12:25 AM

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The 3 systems will come with dedicated manuals to each type, but you can request the other types to be sent to you or look at them online. This is due to the physical size of the manual.

On the heli, the gear switch is above the throttle stick, on the front center, next to the elevator dual rate switch.

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/8/2004 12:53 PM

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Hi Danny,

Pass on my thanks to the guys that wrote the manuals ! Up to the normal high standars as usual.......

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/14/2004 5:38 PM

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They sure make the UK 9x manual look like its been written by a kid at primary school/kindergarden

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/14/2004 11:02 PM

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Snapper,

If I may respond briefly tp your last......

That manual was written in a rush as the shops were screaming for them, the customers were screaming for them and we didnt want it to go out without a manual of sorts.

Normally all the English manuals for the JR sets are written by those good people at Horizon, As they didnt take the 9X in its current state, they didnt need to write a manual !

What this shows is that there is a massive back room team ( who do a brilliant job btw ) at Horizon, and to be honest I don't think they get the credit and applause they are due !

I am hoping that Danny is working his usual magic to get me authority to plagiarise the various 9303 manuals so that I can produce a semi decent 9X manual.

Again my thanks to ALL at Horizon !

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/15/2004 1:25 AM

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will be very welcome Macman, seems like alot of 9x sets are making their way onto the second hand market as people fail to get to grips with them.

ps have you any idea why i cannot access the device select in the system window when i am in glider mode on my 9x yet i can in acro and heli modes...........cheers Neal

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/15/2004 11:17 PM

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There are 2 3 position switches, and either can be the flight mode switch.

Danny,

I have an 8103H that I am using to fly both heli and acro. I have not figured a way (and it may be my ignorance) of making the 3 position switch on the 8103 work as a flight mode switch for acro. I know this is not a tech support forum, but if I am correct in assuming that you cannot do it with the 8103, are you saying that you can do it with the 9303?

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/15/2004 11:25 PM

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Danny,

Another question:
Both my son and I have 8103H radios. He is about to start learning heli's and the reason I bought him an 8103 is so that I can use the "partial control" feature of the 8103 where I can give him control of collective while I control cyclic and vice-versa. It makes training helis that much easier and I was told that the 6102 and 8103 were not able to do this together. My question is if I buy the 9303 and move my helis onto the 9303 and sell my 8103, will I be able to use the partial control functionality?

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/16/2004 1:29 AM

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On the 8103, it could be put on that switch, but it takes 3 program mixes all assigned to the same switch, where you mix the channel to itself and use negative percentages to take away throw to just get one position set. To get another, will take 3 more mixes. It would be cumbersome and use up all your mixes to do it. On the 9303, this is a simple activation, you can put the flight modes on 1 of 2 3 position switches, and set it up as desired without any mixing. Yes, the 9303 has a channel by channel trainer system, similar to the 8103.

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/16/2004 3:27 PM

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quote:

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On the 8103, it could be put on that switch, but it takes 3 program mixes all assigned to the same switch, where you mix the channel to itself and use negative percentages to take away throw to just get one position set. To get another, will take 3 more mixes. It would be cumbersome and use up all your mixes to do it. On the 9303, this is a simple activation, you can put the flight modes on 1 of 2 3 position switches, and set it up as desired without any mixing. Yes, the 9303 has a channel by channel trainer system, similar to the 8103.

Thanks for your response, Danny.

Just to clarify:

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Yes, the 9303 has a channel by channel trainer system, similar to the 8103.

...and plugging the 8103 in as a buddy box into the 9303 will allow the channel by channel system to work? In other words, I don't have to have a second 9303 to make this work?

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/16/2004 8:00 PM

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That is correct, it can be the 8103, or a variety of other systems as well.

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/20/2004 2:15 AM

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Danny

I was just about to upgrade from an XP662 to an XP8103, when I came across the XP9303 online. It looks like a great radio, and I think this is the one I'll probably purchase.
I'm about to move into 3D, and I'm wondering if JR or anyone else you know publishes a guide/manual for setting up this radio or any other JR radios for this purpose (I'm not referring to the normal manual that comes with the radio). You know, something that would help me with mixing and programming suggestions, tips, etc.
Thank you so much for all your informative responses!

Albert

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/20/2004 6:09 PM

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There aren't any other guides or manuals at this time that I know of. However, there is little need for many other guides, the system is pretty simple to set up and the manual covers the functions needed for most aircraft. While it is not impossible that addional guides may be written at some point, right now there are none.

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/21/2004 2:03 AM

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Danny,

Do you have a date for when they are going to start shipping? I have sent in a order for one.

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RE: JR 9X = 9303 - 9/21/2004 4:21 AM

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The LHS also where im employed just got 3 in today and man are they nice

i want one so bad, but first need to do something with my 8103

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