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Airplane Decision - Down to 2 - 9/12/2004 7:50:53 PM   
sillyness



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Status: offline 		So... if you were buying a plane today, what would you buy?

An Extremeflight 87" YAK w/ DA-50 and KS pipe = great precision, 3d, and MAD POWER

or

A Wildhare 35% Extra w/ DA-100 = BIG BIG BIG but not quite the power or 3D capabilities.

Any voters???
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RE: Airplane Decision - Down to 2 - 9/12/2004 8:51:04 PM   
Dan767



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Status: offline 		I like the 35% airplane. I don't understand why you wouldn't think that a DA 100 wouldn't do just about anything you'd want with this plane. The right engine prop combo, and I think you would be pleasantly surprised. If you'tre really gutsy and feel that the new battery technology is as great as they say, put one Li-Po in it for power (reciever) to keep the weight down, and one for the ignition. Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.

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RE: Airplane Decision - Down to 2 - 9/13/2004 2:05:17 AM   
Badge



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Status: offline 		Go for the extra, like Dan said this airplane and engine combo is perfect for 3D it will do everythingI had one with the same combo loved it till a friend made me an offer I couldnt refuse.


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RE: Airplane Decision - Down to 2 - 9/13/2004 8:49:28 PM   
ptgarcia



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Status: offline 		I third the 35% Extra. The DA-100 will yank it around no problem. I know the Yak is supposed to be awesome but this remains to be seen.

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RE: Airplane Decision - Down to 2 - 9/14/2004 8:17:02 PM   
sillyness



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Status: offline 		Well... despite your input, I think I'm going to try the YAK. I haven't even competed yet and I think I want to get myself through at least one season of competition before I invest in a larger airplane (money is a concern since we are trying to have a kid). Plus, I REALLY like the Yak design... it spins flatter than any others out there, knife edges better, and I love the way it looks in rolling harriers. Maybe by next year EF will have their 100cc version out (that should come with carbon tubes, double truss horns, etc etc... PLUS, I already have a brand new DA-50, a KS pipe, a Fromeco power system, and 5 8611's sitting here.

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RE: Airplane Decision - Down to 2 - 9/22/2004 2:38:40 AM   
Diablo-RCU


 

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Status: offline 		Geez....why ask?......

I have a boss at work who pulls the same stunt.
Asks for everyone's opinion and pretends he listens, but the decision was made before he ate lunch 3 weeks ago.

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RE: Airplane Decision - Down to 2 - 9/22/2004 4:37:11 AM   
Mike Bogh



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Status: offline 		Well for one thing your question is invalid...there IS NO Extreem Yak 87 availible for you to buy.
Ergo, it leaves you only one choice....as others have recomended...but you already made up your mind to buy the plane that isn't even sold yet.


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RE: Airplane Decision - Down to 2 - 9/22/2004 7:17:57 AM   
deweyd


 

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Status: offline 		Why don't you wait a few months and see what may be out.. flying season is about over and you can get a plane at the first of the year and have it finished in no time at all.. I did see the EF yak fly at Joe Nall and it looks really nice. Quique is going to have a 85" yak out here in a few months . so I would wait to see what happens. dewey

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RE: Airplane Decision - Down to 2 - 9/29/2004 3:06:05 AM   
BasinBum



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Status: offline 		Sillyness is a perfect name for you. It spins better? Knife edges better? How do you know? THE FRIGGEN THING ISN"T EVEN AVAILABLE YET! But you are right there with many other IMAC Basic pilots who want a big plane to fly BASIC. There are plenty of less expensive planes without pipes that would work excellent for Basic. I have a friend who just got schooled at an IMAC meet with his brand new CA3.2, who ever beat him must have loved that.

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RE: Airplane Decision - Down to 2 - 9/29/2004 3:20:16 AM   
Mudsurfer1234



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Status: offline 		Im going Yak with the DA-50 when it gets here because it is lighter (i know it is by actual weight, but if you enlarged it to the same size as extra, still lighter) has more wing area, so it seems like it would 3D a little better, so you could have more fun when you aren't competing. Plus, look at that awesome scheme and them damn nice looks.

I will either use the KS canister, or the standard DA50 muffler

Hope you make the right choice,
Scott


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RE: Airplane Decision - Down to 2 - 10/2/2004 3:31:30 AM   
OnTheEdge



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Status: offline 		I would definately recommend the Extra/DA100 combo. Wingloading calculations are good when analyzing planes of similar size but when you compare a wingloading of a 50cc class plane to a 100cc plane, equal wingloading doesn't mean the same. There's an aerodynamic term for it but I can't recall it at this time but in a nutshell, the larger the plane, the larger the wingloading can go (oz/sq inch) and the plane will still fly very light. A good example of this is a foamy that falls in at about 5-6.5 oz loading and a 40% plane that will fly EXTREMELY light at 30-33oz.

So to recap, if you can swing the $$ sillyness, then go bigger if not the Yak will be a terrific plane for you.

..........Mark

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RE: Airplane Decision - Down to 2 - 10/2/2004 3:47:57 AM   
BasinBum



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Status: offline 		I think the term you are looking for is Reynolds number and you are right, bigger flies better. He did say in his second post that money is an issue but than again he said that he made up his mind to get an EF Yak because of the flight characteristics yet except for the prototype the plane does not exist so how does he know?

I think this is just another thread comparing IMAC planes and we are advising someone who doesn't have any experiance. Based on that I still stand by my recommendations in the other thread similar to this one.

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RE: Airplane Decision - Down to 2 - 10/2/2004 3:51:09 AM   
OnTheEdge



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quote:

ORIGINAL: BasinBum

I think the term you are looking for is Reynolds number


That's it..........Thanks........

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RE: Airplane Decision - Down to 2 - 10/2/2004 5:20:23 AM   
sillyness



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Status: offline 		Well... if anyone cares, I've ordered my plane. I went with neither of the above... I got a Hanger 9 Edge 540 with a ZDZ-80 after I heard some flight reports and saw they were coming out in the 21 pound range. Less money than the Extra and a lot more plane than the Yak (and a lot sooner). The Extra with the DA-100 was about $600 too much engine for my wallet and peace of mind... I wasn't thining straight with the original post. Thanks for your "comments".

Oh, and I do have experience... I understand Reynolds numbers and interia and wing-loading... they're pretty crucial to my career. Unfortunately Uncle Sam and my wife don't provide the monetary backing to have "experienced" hundreds of different GS planes. Sorry if I remind you of your boss.

(So much for my mind already being made up )

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RE: Airplane Decision - Down to 2 - 10/2/2004 6:23:45 AM   
BasinBum



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Status: offline 		Edges tend to be good planes for learning IMAC and Hangar 9 is a proven manufacturer, good choice.

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RE: Airplane Decision - Down to 2 - 10/2/2004 2:34:39 PM   
OnTheEdge