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de Havilland Sea Hornet Maiden Flight - 8/4/2002 6:58 AM   
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Hi Everyone,

Well tomorrow is the big day for my 1/5 scale American Eagle, Sea Hornet, everything is finished and all systems have been checked out, engines were run for 2 hours/1.5 gals on a test stand.
Dan Stevens will be the test pilot and we plan to fly her at our field tomorrow afternoon, its been over 1 year in the making and I don't have the stomach nor the nerves for the fist flight.
I have posted pic's as I built the Hornet on our web site with Mac Hodges B-29 so with Mac flying the B-29 everywhere it's my turn to fly and close the web pages.

[url]www.geocities.com/clubamac222[/url]

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de Havilland Sea Hornet Maiden Flight - 8/5/2002 8:11 AM   
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Hi Everyone,
It's a keeper, Dan Stevens did a great job in making final throttle adjustments and put her in the air, WOW !!!!! what sight and the sound is really chilling on a low full throttle pass.

Thanks Dan
Charlie

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DH103 - 8/5/2002 9:23 AM   
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Congratulations Charlie! Please keep us posted with as much info as you can as you put more flights. A few weeks ago I ordered plans for a DH HOrnet from Scale Modeller magazine and I plan to build a 90' wingspan of the beast. (Chad, my attemps to enlarge the original drawings failed so I ordered the plans)
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SeaHornet - 8/8/2002 11:03 PM   
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Charlie,
What's the flying weight? power? What retracts did you install?
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Nice Job - 8/9/2002 3:14 AM   
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Looks great Charlie! Glad to hear about the maiden flight. I have been watching Rick Michelena fly his powered as yours is for a while now and it screams. Rick ended up enlarging the rudder, but keeping the scale shape, for better ground handling.

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DH Sea Hornet - 8/10/2002 1:34 AM   
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Thanks guys,

Sea Hornet was from a American Eagle kit by Bob Neider.
I have to say this was my first gaint scale plane so you have to read between the lines, I honestly built three to get one finished.
I made some mistakes and had alot of help from Dan Stevens which kept me in the right direction but let me do my thing,
ex: no spar was design in, I had a 4 ft one made by Carbon Composites which tied the landing gear boxes/firewalls in all together.
I also was lucky enough to talk to the American Eagle guys at Top Gun, plus Rick Michelena was helpful also.
Spec's Stand Off Scale
Weight 40 lbs.
Engines ZDZ 60
Props Zinger 4 blade 20/8 (6500rpms)
Retracts Robart
Rx's Futaba 9C - PCM
Spinners Dave Brown
Gas Tank one 50 ounce
Wing 108 in. - but one piece
Paint Krylon top - Camouflage Paint System - bottom - John Deere Yellow
CG 25% line

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de Havilland Sea Hornet - 8/22/2002 4:37 AM   
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Hi JGrc,

Another outing this weekin for the Hornet, all is well.
Hornet flys fine at full throttle but chop the throttle and its coming down ( lands around half throttle) hope is, later these engines will pickup more power.
I most likely will switch to Mejzlik 2 blades 22/10 props after I get more kinks worked out, but doing fine at scale speeds.
I want to make only a few changes at a time, ex ailerons work fine in air condition shop but at the field 100 F , they seem to stick at times, need to get with Robart to get lower weaker springs replaced with the heavy upper types, only have about 1/5 travel due to weight.
Haven't needed the gyro for takeoff, in fact haven't adj. above 0 yet, will play with it later.
Also found Sunday I need to up the expo to around 50% + have never felt my thumbs shake so bad, knees seems OK because of my weight but the thumbs WOW!
Charlie

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de Havilland Sea Hornet Maiden Flight - 8/22/2002 5:44 AM   
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CAN YOU TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SEAHORNET AND THE MESQUITO? WHAT WAS ITS ROLE IN THE WAR? GORGOUS AIRCRAFT. LOVE THOSE MULTI BLADED PROPS! EXCELLENT JOB!

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Hornet - 8/22/2002 8:11 AM   
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Charlie.
YOu might get more thrust with the 2 blade prop, maybe the 4 blade is too much prop??
The gyro is probabily a good idea in a single engine situation.
I'm still waiting for the plans from the UK. Also I found a 1/4 scale available worth checking out: http://www.rawleaviation.demon.co.uk/page3.html
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de Havilland Sea Hornet - 8/22/2002 8:50 AM   
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Hi STUKA BARRY,
The Hornets were to replace the Mosquito but enter too late against the Germans, then but most were shipped to the Pacific but this War was winding down also, so there's no real air combat records.
American Eagle has a website with a pretty accurate record of this plane [url]www.flyrcmodel.com/[/url]
I made contact with some folks/clubs in England, which help me get more data, but I was paying as much as $22.00 US for a ? 9.50 (pound) book plus shipping, so I only bought a few books.
The plane I copied believe or not was the only one out of over 240 planes I couldn't ever figure out what happen to it, I was able to trace all the others but lost #PX 219 after 1950.
The color layout was the real reason I went with # PX219.
Charlie

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Sea Hornet - 8/22/2002 9:03 AM   
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Hi JGrc,
I believe you are right, I started with a 4 blade prop for the scale looks mainly. I know when you cop the throttles these act like big air brakes but speed will come later, I'm sure, even if I have to go with ZDZ 80's or maybe the "new" ZDZ 50's, which put out more than the ZDZ 60's, figure that one out.

I checked out that site many times, its good but be careful with the exchange rate$$$$ can give you heart burn really bad.Charlie


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Paint Scheme - 8/22/2002 1:29 PM   
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Kick'In Chicken,

I have done a little research on Hornets and I am wondering about your paint scheme. I am familar with the British scheme of yellow lower surfaces on prototype aircraft. They also usaully had a yellow letter P in yellow circle outline as well on the side of the fuselage.

I also have several reference that show the prototype Hornet that has both the yellow underside with the circled yellow P. The picture I have do not have a dorsal fin though. Do you have a reference that does show a Hornet in this scheme with the dorsal fin in front of the rudder? If you do could you please give me the name of the book or whatever so I can get a copy?

I have a 55" span Hornet that I will finish when I get back to the US. I had decided to go with the camo scheme they used in Maylasia (camo on top and blue on the bottom) but if you a prototype had the fin, I'll go with that because it's highly visible.

Almost forgot, your Hornet looks really nice. You should be very proud of your achievment. It's a lot of work getting a Warbird in the air, never mind a giant scale warbird, and a twin to boot!

Thanks,
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DH HOrnet - 8/22/2002 7:00 PM   
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The only reference I have is the War Paint Series booklet (Hall Park Books, England). I guess Bob George is right, PX219 was the third prototype of the Sea Hornet series and did not have the fin. But you can always argue that it was retrofited for added stability as it was the case with the Mk I's .
This book also talks about the combat life of the Hornet which was short but intense against the Communist in Malaya and defense of Honk Kong. The Hornet was mainly a fighter, it could fly circles around a Mosquito. To demonstrate how aerobatic this airplane was, they performed a four loop sequence starting with both engines on, the final loop was done with both engines off props feathered! Remember this was before Bob Hoover time!
I don't think you should try the engines off loop Charlie.
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Sea Hornet - 8/22/2002 7:48 PM   
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Hi Bruiser/JGrc,
I'm sorry, you guys got me, both of ya'll are correct I cheated alittle. My plane started out as a American Eagle kit with the fin.

After being told that I should have enlarged the rudder ( 2 inches) for more rudder control, but having completed the tail section at that time I went ahead with the fin, which added more area to the tail section, just like the later Hornets.

I also installed a gyro to help, but like I said earlier we haven't seen a need for it, just take off like any other War Birds slow and added throttle thru take-off, no wild torque seen.

JGrc you are correct about color I used the Warpaint Series No.19 page 21, as a guide, the paint job was to be latex, in which I bought a new HVLP system, had the paint custom mixed to exact colors but never could get it to look right to me. So I finally had enough and went to Wal-Mart and bought $12.00 worth of Kyron paint and was very please with the very first coat, I could have saved around $350.00 had I known this ahead of time.

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