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RE: !!!!!!!HELP Which heli to buy? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! - 9/19/2004 10:59:14 PM   
SexyPizzaMan



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Status: offline 		Ok, i will do so. Where can i get cheap motors again, where are they located? china? hope not... I would like to order in US. www.heli-world.com I dont know where to look or what to search, if you could find a brushless tail set up for this heli that would be great, would mean alot to me. Would i need a different esc? Mabey ill get th high authority, how long do those last?? do i need a different esc or different motor for lithium power batteries? What is th best set up i can get for like... lets say 250. 199 is the heli with radio rtf

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RE: !!!!!!!HELP Which heli to buy? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! - 9/19/2004 11:13:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I look around to see if I can find where I saw the stuff... Allelectronics is where I got the motors. They are in the US and ship VIA USPS. Very good for the price. For a brushless set-up you would need a brushless ESC. FOr a Li-Po set-uip you can use 2-cell bats... THe 3-cell have 11.1 volts and will burn up your motors quickly.

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RE: !!!!!!!HELP Which heli to buy? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! - 9/19/2004 11:20:42 PM   
Acs_guitars



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Status: offline 		THe other motors are on Heli Hobby I have also read in these forums about using a GWS motor which worked very well.

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RE: !!!!!!!HELP Which heli to buy? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! - 9/19/2004 11:23:54 PM   
SexyPizzaMan



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Status: offline 		Ok well i have a rtf dragonfly, extra battery extra tail motor extra preformance 370 motor head sinks for both the tail and main motor all for 250. Would that be a good buy?? Ill also order a high authority tail motor.

People say in the reviews that they are 2/3 the power of stock. Is this true??

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RE: !!!!!!!HELP Which heli to buy? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! - 9/19/2004 11:27:34 PM   
SexyPizzaMan



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Status: offline 		Will the Twin Tail Motor Mount and tail Guard Kit work with those cheap tail mototrs? Since people say they are smaller. If so then i would buy like 20 little engines useing 2 at the same time increacing their life and power. Would this work?

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RE: !!!!!!!HELP Which heli to buy? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! - 9/20/2004 3:03:44 AM   
SexyPizzaMan



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Status: offline 		About how long does the hummingbird last on a regular 8.4v battery nimh?? I want to buy 2 extras. Or should i just get lithium batteries??? If i get lithium, can i use small 2c packs, do i have to get a bigger esc will the heli work without any electronic upgrades to use lithium? I want to get the kotam 1025 mah 2 c packs and a charger. So ill get the stock hummingbird and 2 2cell lithium packs. I understand this will be a motor burning fiesta, what can i do?? Are those cheap motors from http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=400&item=DCM-166&type=store strong enough to fly well with the lipos??

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RE: !!!!!!!HELP Which heli to buy? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! - 9/21/2004 9:12:18 AM   
Zero262


 

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Status: offline 		Just to confuse things even more, have a look at the movie clip on this website, it shows the piccolo flying in a pretty stong breeze with carbon blades!!

http://www.carbonblades.com/mainblades.htm

I've ordered some to try on my Jabo 2!

Also the Colco thunderbird looks like a bargain on this website:
http://www.raidentech.com/cothbiclccoi.html

I'm aiming to tweak my Jabo 2 to get it to fly as much like a helicopter as i can, whilst keeping it as simple and cheap as possible, so i am just trying one small change at a time, it's close to how i want it now though, hopefully the stiffer more efficient blades will do the trick.

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RE: !!!!!!!HELP Which heli to buy? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! - 9/21/2004 9:21:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		The "cheap" motors form allelectronics are the EXACT same as a stock motor replacement from a Heli supplier, only the mark up the price to $12. The only difference is that these do not come with the capacitor, but it is just a matter of using the same one from the motor you are replacing. They will fly fine with LI-Po's (no special ESC or Motors).... As I told you once before. The 2-cell li-po will NOT burn out either main nor tail motor any faster than the stock NiMH 8.4v battery. Li-Po's give longer flight time because of the higher mA over stock NiMH, the factor that would burn up a motor is if you used a 3-cell Li-Po because they are 11.1v. The highest voltage that a stock hummingbird, RTF, can handle is 9.6v. The stock battery can run up to 12 min in a simple hover, with a Li-Po you should be able to double that flight time to 24 min.

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RE: !!!!!!!HELP Which heli to buy? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! - 9/21/2004 10:45:21 PM   
SexyPizzaMan



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Status: offline 		i bought 2 2cell 1025mah lipo batteries, a hummingbird elite and a high authority tail, as well as cooling sink for both tail and main motor. I have that cheap 50 dollar hobbico charger which charges lipos at 1 amp, how long would it take to charge the lipo at 1 amp? Does the charger shut off once it is done charging?

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RE: !!!!!!!HELP Which heli to buy? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! - 9/22/2004 1:22:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Your wasting your time and money on a micro. You say you want to fly outdoors? If there is anything more than DEAD calm - the heli will be all over the place. They are not that stable and they break quite easily. I'm not trying to slam micros - they have their place - just not for what you want.

Out of all the zoom 400 is probably the best, but since you have nitro - you could get a Hawk sport for about 200-250 and a TON of spares for $600.

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RE: !!!!!!!HELP Which heli to buy? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! - 9/22/2004 3:38:35 AM   
SexyPizzaMan



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Status: offline 		Ive seen videos amd it did look a little shacky but not as bad as you describe. In my opinion, its more of the pilots decision and skill of how he flys, anything is possible. I do have 1 question. Is the Hummingbird elite cp less durable then the fp version?? The fp is on backorder and i really want to fly, for 50 bucks difference i get the cp upgrade extra blades servo. Not to bad of a deal. But is it durable? If not then i will wait for the fp.

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RE: !!!!!!!HELP Which heli to buy? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! - 9/22/2004 10:28:26 PM   
SexyPizzaMan



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Status: offline 		Ok i bought the cp today and it was shipped. Will be here tommarow or friday. I will post video and pictures soon. Can someone tell me how to post videos?

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