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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch Ce... - 2/9/2008 12:34:08 AM   
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(the first flight seemed as if the nose wanted to climb)on full throttle


That may not be a COG issue mate. There are a couple of ways to overcome this. It all depends on your flying characteristics, but nose up on full throttle is quite normal. The trust angle of the motor is there to try and counteract it, but at full throttle the plane starts to generate more lift than the thrust angle can manage, and she will start to climb. If you have a computer radio you can set up some throttle mixing with elevators. It works to add some DOWN elevator when you are at full throttle, helping to keep the nose down. It works quite well, although I don't use it!! I would rather lean on the down elev when at full noise.

I set all of my planes up overpowered, so that they fly the way I like at half throttle! I then setup the thrust angle and down trim to fly level at that speed. Then when I go full noise, I lean on the down elevs a bit and all is good.

If you have more weight in the front to fly level at full noise, when you back off, you will need to lean on the UP elevators or you will be heading for mother earth!

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch Ce... - 2/9/2008 4:28:48 PM   
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Thankyou for that advise,You are right about the way the planes fly,i took the Red arrow out for a flight today,The weather was perfect

The work i did on the plane helped a more stable flight,I thought about adding more weight to the front and decided against the idea,As i thought when i slow down, it would be much harder to land.

With my maiden flight the plane wasn't really setup right,But you have to fly it for the first time to know if it has any problems,Which it did.

Before i flew her,I made sure i added a little down thrust on the tail and whilst flying i had to trim almost to the top,So i think i'll add a little more down thrust before i fly next,But it flew well.

For my second flight i was much happier flying it,it did what i wanted it to do and a good range since i changed the Receiver .


Jumpmonkey,,,,

You wanted me to review the red arrow,Well here goes,,,,

Bare in mind that i have changed the ESC to 40 amps and using 2200mAh 11.1v 3 cell 20c instead of(stock)1800mAh 11.1v 3cell 12c

Take off was great and stable.

The flight was very precise and stable-reacted how you wanted it to do,(quite a nice speed too)

The line up for landing, responsive-flew steady at low altitude.

The landing,Difficult-As the plane is very close to the ground because the landing gear is so short,And when landing, the plane is moving quite fast,When i come in to land everything was going well,just a couple feet off the ground,the plane bounced on the tarmac and went back up in the air about 3 feet and did a little cart wheel when it come back down it was going to slow to gain control,there wasn't much damage at all the nose come off and a little scuff on the tip of the wing and the tyre come off and started rolling to me,lol,,had to stop in with my foot.

So once the landing is mastered the plane is a real nice plane to fly and very scale looking in the air too.

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch Ce... - 2/9/2008 9:43:02 PM   
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Just wanted to know if you ever installed that 2409-12 you were waiting for. Mine submerged in saltwater a few times but still works great.

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch C... - 2/10/2008 3:34:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		cheers stu, might have to get one. probably have to make a belly lander tho'.

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch C... - 2/11/2008 4:05:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just waiting for a good day to fly it. Been away for over two weeks and only just got back. Hoping to install tonight. Fly this weekend if all goes well.
KIWI

PS Good to know about the saltwater

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch C... - 2/11/2008 5:54:47 AM   
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here is a little idea how fast it flies ,it was a perfect landing on the grass ,,


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pmRt2XGRQQw

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch C... - 2/11/2008 7:25:18 AM   
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Was it a FLYCAMONE.... or the new FLYCAMONE2.

Great idea mate!!

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch C... - 2/11/2008 7:33:52 AM   
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It's a flycamone,Although the flycamone2 has better spec,I didn't like the looks of it,I think the results are quite good to say it's suppose to be on the plane,It's not really made to focus on a small moving object,that's why sometimes it went out of focus,but i think it looks quite well considering

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch C... - 2/11/2008 7:51:57 AM   
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Thanks mate... I love the new Flycamone2 so much I import them into Australia!! Far better resolution. I might try what you did and see what results I get.

Cheers
-J

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch C... - 2/11/2008 7:57:56 AM   
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your very welcome ,you'll have to post it on youtube like i did so i can see the difference.

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch C... - 2/11/2008 8:03:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would go out there now mate - but Mother Nature is a bit angry at the moment But I will post some vid soon.

I have a stack of vids including some done with the new Flycamone2. - http://www.youtube.com/user/ausmongrel

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch C... - 2/11/2008 8:05:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		JohnM - show Stu and the others some of the fly-in vids you took. STU - they're crazy, crazy guys - Machette, put floats on his EZ* (they were actually plastic bottles!!!). And johnM - post your website to show them wot one should really look like. Don't be shy.......

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch C... - 2/11/2008 8:24:22 AM   
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very nice vid mate ,it's great when you have a second person to take control of the camera ,i don't have that option at the moment so i have to stick with the setup i have for now ,after i have had a good sleep today,i might give it a go for another flight

The red arrow seems to be the fastest plane i have flown yet i know this is mainly for the cessna,but my cessna is sleeping right now waiting to be repaired,so i'm having some fun with my red arrow ,what video program do you use?I tried to use windows video maker,but it kept crashing on me so with the latest vids i used videoexpression2

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch C... - 2/11/2008 8:25:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Tommie,

Sure mate...go to http://www.mongrelgear.com.au You will find some info and vids about our flying under THE MONGREL'S RANT

Cheets TAM!
-J