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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch Cessna 182 RC Radio Control Plane - 1/26/2006 2:29:42 AM   
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Can anyone recommend me a good glue for the cessna 182. I know nothing at all about glues and bought glue which seems to just melt the foam away on my plane. I'd be really gratefull if anyone has some idea's for me.
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Go to your local hobby shop for a foam-safe glue. There are several kinds available and I'm sure they can recommend one for you.
I bought a tube of foam-safe glue at Michaels (a national chain of specialty stores). It adheres well and does not harden completely, so future removal of glued parts becomes easier.

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch Cessna 182 RC Radio Control Plane - 1/26/2006 1:10:39 PM   
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Thanjks Jmir. And thanks for the other post about the glue too.
Cheers

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch Cessna 182 RC Radio Control Plane - 1/27/2006 9:45:34 AM   
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Hi, I just use 5min apoxy to glue up my plane. The only thing i don't like about it is it yellows. I have used a lot of glue on this thing. I had my aleron servo let go in flight. Spiralled into the ground from 50ft. The packing tape does a good job but not good enough. I lost the bearing from the motor which sucked bc thats all that was wrong with it, oh well. I had similar problems with my plane when the esc would shut down the motor, the control surfaces would go crazy. I went out and bought a new esc, tx and rx. Just got the parts tho so haven't had a chance to put them in and fly. I definetly recomend gluing the servos it sucked seeing the plane spiral and nothing you can do to stop it. I would like to put flaps on my plane does anyone have pics of how i would go about doing this. Does anyone also have pics on how to make the front wheel steerable. I am new to rc planes and haven't done much mods before. I am thinking of changing all my control surfaces by putting in hinges less resistance and more durable I would think. Thanks for all the great advice mentioned above. The tape really saved my plane from a lot of damage. I did make new rear langing gear for my plane. I snapped off the original landing hard with a bit of a cross wind. I bent a new set out of heavier wire and crazy glue the hubs back on. I got rid of the wheel pants couldn't get them to stop rubbing on the wheels.

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch Cessna 182 RC Radio Control Plane - 1/27/2006 5:02:58 PM   
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Hope this information may be helpful. I'm using the Tx that came with the model (Art-Tech E Fly) along with FMS. The cable between computer and Tx is a mono minni cord male on both ends. The setting for sim is Switch 1 up switches 2,3,4 down for sim. Reverse them BEFORE putting a battery in model or you may have engine start at power and cause yourself grief.

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch Cessna 182 RC Radio Control Plane - 1/27/2006 5:41:31 PM   
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Hey all..me again with yet another problem. Nothing major though. Igot myself 2 lipo batteries for my cessna 182 but the plugs on them are different to the original batteries. Any idea's how to sort this or where I can get adaptors if they can be got?
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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch Cessna 182 RC Radio Control Plane - 1/27/2006 7:59:00 PM   
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hello irishflyer ,
Simple solution would be to cut all three connectors off { ESC , 2 Li-Po's } and replace them all with something else I have done this and bought extra connectors just in case ...the idea was to make everything uniform so it was all interchangable .... I used the tam gold connectors from Robbe { hey come in a packet of 5 } they are a bit big but work really well ,hope this helps

cheers
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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch Cessna 182 RC Radio Control Plane - 1/27/2006 8:06:32 PM   
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hey stephen_a_schmidt ,
To Answer your questions ...I have added flaps to mine and they work great ! I also added a steerable nose wheel using the Du-Bro 1/2a nose wheel kit { its designed for park fliers } the proccess is a little tricky but well worth it .I can take some pics of mine and it should give you an idea of how to make it .The flaps are easy to do ,Just look back through this thread I think I posted a couple of pics on the flaps if not I can take some more pics on that one too .You will require another servo for the flaps I used a Hitex HS55 { had one lying round } let me know if you want more detailed instructions .

cheers
V-S

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch Cessna 182 RC Radio Control Plane - 2/1/2006 9:44:39 PM   
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When you guys are saying to use 5-mintue epoxy, does that have to be some special kind of epoxy or just what you could buy at Wal-Mart etc.? I just got my new plane and I want to use something quick and strong on it. Also would like to have some on hand for the repairs that I'm sure I'll have to make. Thanks for the help!

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch Cessna 182 RC Radio Control Plane - 2/1/2006 10:26:21 PM   
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Yeah mate, just the standard five minute epoxy resin you can buy just about anywhere will be fine for this type of foam repair. Just steer clear of using cheap cyanoacrylite glues or "Super Glue" that is not "Foam Safe" or else I fear your plane's fuselage will be eaten through quicker than a cheescake at a "Weight Watchers" convention!!

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch Cessna 182 RC Radio Control Plane - 2/2/2006 8:37:57 AM   
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V-S thanks for the info. I found the pictures of the flaps, thanks I looked before I must have missed them. What did you use for the linkage cable between the two flaps and how did you conect that likage to the flaps them selves?
Oh by the way your plane looks great, I am looking into possibly putting on the nav lights I really like the looks of them. Did you program the chip for them or did you get someone to do it for you? I have done a little circuit making in the past so I think I am going to try making it, its just programming the chip.
Take care,
Steve

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch Cessna 182 RC Radio Control Plane - 2/4/2006 7:46:24 PM   
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I am new to this, so speak slowly and clearly...;-). I want to get some LiPoly batteries for my Cessna. I am looking at the Thunder Power 1900mAh 2-Cell 7.4V LIPO, JST. Will I need to get a new ESC if I do this or will it work with the one that comes with it? Also, does anybody know of a good charger for lipo batteries. And last of all, I was reading that it is important to not discharge these LiPos too much, how do you know how much is too much? Thanks so much for any help, I will probably be back with more questions later :-).

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch Cessna 182 RC Radio Control Plane - 2/4/2006 11:26:59 PM   
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hi natevo,

To answer your questions ... I have the thunder power Gen II 1350mah 11.1v li-pos in mine and it flys great with them { had to add a touch of weight to the nose to balance it up again } and they are a perfect fit into the battery compartment ! Im running the robbe 819 ESC as it has a voltage cut out { a must have with Li-Po's } my charger is a great planes triton, it charges everything under the sun and is great for li-pos .

ok Li-Po's info .... You should never disacharge your Li-Po Packs below a certain voltage 7.4v should never below 6v and 11.1 below 9v etc etc otherwise you will stuff them completely !!!!! this is why you should always use a Speed controller { ESC } with a low voltage cut out as it wont let the battery go below the min voltage {9v in my case} you should also never charge them at more than 1C { C is the rating value ,Just find out what 10% of your battery is and thats your charge rate {1C} eg 1350mah = a charge rate of 1.35amps ,1800mah =1.8amp charge rate and so on } you should never Dis-charge Li-pos at more than they are rated at like my 1350 have a dis-charge rate of 12-14C with bursts of 16C { just x the capaticity by the max "C"rating eg 1350mah x 12 = 16.2amps } so this is the maxium number of amps I can draw from this battery .So you need to know how much you are drawing to start with so you can match your requirements to the right pack.

L-Po's are very volitile and any sign of whats called ballooning { where the pack has swelled } get rid of them ! You SHOULD ALWAYS READ THE INSTRUCTIONS for Li-Po's as they are dangerous and never charger them un-attendard as they could start ballooning and catch fire .I would reccomend doing a serach on the net about Li-Po's and redaing up about them maybe watch the odd mpeg of them exploding ...lol They are a great source of power for us parkies but more dangerous ! please use this info I have given you as only a rough guide and read more about them before jumping in and just buying some .

But I can tell you is the batteries I have mention run really well in theis plane and would reccommend getting 11.1v as too the 7.4v more power the better and dont panic the motor runs fine with the extra voltage as you will find that you will be crusing round the sky at only about 1/2-3/4 throttle .My flight times are about 15-20min using throttle conservation { not full power } and charge times are 72min per pack @ 1C .

Hope this info was helpfull I have just bought 4 11.1v 1800mah packs and would be looking at about 25+ min flight times I dont generally dont stay up for much longer than 15min as the motor and ESC can get warmish - hot ...lol and like to let it cool down a bit but there is no reason why you couldnt stay up for 25+ min Im just cautious .....lol

all the best .
cheers
V-S

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RE: Art-Tech 3Ch Cessna 182 RC Radio Control Plane - 2/6/2006 9:02:53 AM   
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hi all, finnaly managed to loop the thing having a slight problem on landing tho: the nose wheel pops out thus piling the front end straight into the ground and flipping the plane forwards. is this just my lack of experience or is there something up with the clip?? literally every single flight the nose wheel goes on it

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