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video: 20 ft wingspan B-24 crash on maiden flight.... - 9/27/2004 1:59:53 AM   
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RE: video: 20 ft wingspan B-24 crash on maiden flight.... - 9/27/2004 2:13:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		nice...i got to it before everyone else ate up the bandwidth!!

WOW! that vid. is a keeper! Nothing at the scene but silence and destruction. I wonder what happened....

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RE: video: 20 ft wingspan B-24 crash on maiden flight.... - 9/27/2004 2:27:14 AM   
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RE: video: 20 ft wingspan B-24 crash on maiden flight.... - 9/27/2004 2:55:09 AM   
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RE: video: 20 ft wingspan B-24 crash on maiden flight.... - 9/27/2004 3:34:55 AM   
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Status: online 		oh man....that is sad.....looks like pall bearers carrying their best friends casket at the end

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RE: video: 20 ft wingspan B-24 crash on maiden flight.... - 9/27/2004 3:52:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not trying to be mean, but that looked like old man syndrome....... "Pilots Error"

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RE: video: 20 ft wingspan B-24 crash on maiden flight.... - 9/27/2004 4:05:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you watch the wings on taxi out, they are flexing a lot. And when the plane goes into its left roll to the end you can see the ailerons are at full right, against the roll.

With these points in mind, I suspect the outer wings were not secure, one or the other slipped out of place causing the roll and spiral.

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RE: video: 20 ft wingspan B-24 crash on maiden flight.... - 9/27/2004 5:18:15 AM   
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RE: video: 20 ft wingspan B-24 crash on maiden flight.... - 9/27/2004 6:47:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		At that span of twenty feet a little flexing of the wings would probably be normal. Even full size aircraft with big wingspans have a bit of give in the wings to keep them from breaking off during flight. It appears to me more than anything that this fellow didn't have quite enough airspeed when he made that turn. He should have probably tried to make that turn a little flatter to keep his airspeed up. Maybe he just wasn't experienced with really really big models. I'd say that plane had to be pretty darned heavy to be flying in a bank as slowly as it was. If he was using reverse aileron instead of rudder, that, to me, speaks of inexperience in flying really large planes. Or maybe it just all happened so fast that he misjudged his attempted correction. Most of the really big planes require coordinating rudder in turns.

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RE: video: 20 ft wingspan B-24 crash on maiden flight.... - 9/27/2004 2:51:28 PM   
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Status: online 		Looked like too much bank and maybe a tad tailheavy. He pushed the nose down just after takeoff, but then it kind of climbed back up as he started his turn. Ran out of lift, altitude and ideas all at the same time.

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RE: video: 20 ft wingspan B-24 crash on maiden flight.... - 9/27/2004 3:25:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with JeffH. Not enough airspeed and tail heavy.

But what gets me is right at the start. A motor run up being held by one older flyer with three guys right in front of it with the building behind them. It the holder had lost his grip the bystanders would have been toast with no where to go.

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RE: video: 20 ft wingspan B-24 crash on maiden flight.... - 9/27/2004 4:23:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		It kinda makes me wonder if the plane wasn't really underpowered to begin with if it only took one guy to hold that massive bird back.

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RE: video: 20 ft wingspan B-24 crash on maiden flight.... - 9/27/2004 4:46:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: randall1959

It kinda makes me wonder if the plane wasn't really underpowered to begin with if it only took one guy to hold that massive bird back.


that also got me worried!! what if he left go!! all those people right in front on the props!!!!

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RE: video: 20 ft wingspan B-24 crash on maiden flight.... - 9/27/2004 4:47:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: teryn1-RCU


NOTE: if bandwidth gets exceeded due to excessive downloads, I will have to pull the video off server til next month. you will know this has happened when you are not able to get the file.


Let us know, and i will put it up on my server.

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RE: video: 20 ft wingspan B-24 crash on maiden flight.... - 9/27/2004 5:21:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just a few random thoughts...

1. Note how safety was the highest priority. Engines run up with the nose pointed right into the hanger with pilot and others 3 feet in front of 4 giant props.

2. Again safety. Note how on takeoff the plane was coming almost directly at the camera man.

3. Most importantly. The B-52 and now this. It's just not acceptable. When you crash something like this make 100% sure you get the impact on video. No going down behind trees or car.

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