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YS Lovers - YS-110! - 8/8/2002 11:44:40 AM   
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Hi All,

While browsing through some Japanese website I found sites mentioning "the new YS-110" on their 90-size pattern/freestyle planes. This is one of the pics I saw, the new FZ-110 is a bored out FZ-91, and weighs only 665g!! (FZ-91 was 750g)

That's awesome power-to-weight, and they still retained the cool looking air-chamber. Can't wait to get one. Anyone know when they will be available? Dave at YS Performance told me he can't release any info at this time. Someone have insights?

Matt

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YS Lovers - YS-110! - 8/8/2002 7:13:26 PM   
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Heh... figures it'd be in Japanese before anyone saw it here. Not that Japanese stuff isn't good...

Was that with a supercharger on it? I think one of the things that weighs down YS's is the blower... if they've removed it in favor of larger displacement natural aspiration it could be a very interesting study.

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YS Lovers - YS-110! - 8/9/2002 12:52:56 AM   
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YS engines do not use a "blower". The big box behind the cylinder head is a plenum chamber and is meant to store air and smooth out the pulses.

The over atmospheric boost comes from the lower crankcase when the piston descends on the power stroke.

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YS Lovers - YS-110! - 8/9/2002 1:33:28 AM   
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Just another type of supercharger as far as I'm concerned.

The fact that they do it without putting an extra set of rotating air pumps on the engine is beside the point.

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YS Lovers - YS-110! - 8/9/2002 1:44:13 AM   
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I heard rumors that YS was coming out w/ another motor. The 110 will be great, but I don't fly anything that big. I was hoping around an 80size.

YS has had great success w/ the 53 and now the 63, I was just hoping for a 80size 4stroker, that way I could have something in between the 63 and the 91. Maybe YS will make one an 80 that has its weights in line w/ a Saito 100, and the power of a Saito 100-120. If I am not mistaken a YS 91 has more power than a Saito 120, then the YS 80 would fit great in the midrange on the small end of the YS family of engines.

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YS Lovers - YS-110! - 8/9/2002 2:19:41 AM   
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nice engine .

Ys is by far the best glow engine.


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YS Lovers - YS-110! - 8/9/2002 2:28:48 AM   
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nice engine .

Ys is by far the best glow engine.


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YS Lovers - YS-110! - 8/9/2002 7:19:41 AM   
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DROOL...

But did you see the price? 51,000 yen...about $425 at the current exchange rate. I wonder how much Central will be selling them for, since the 91 is ~$275...

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YS Lovers - YS-110! - 8/9/2002 8:49:48 AM   
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I think the 110-size is great. The new line will be 63, 91, 110, 140. The 91 will still be produced for a while, but the 120 is discontinued. Now we have a "bored-out" YS in 60, 90, and 120 class.

My guess why the 110 is made is because the 90-4C class is by far the most popular pattern/sport class in Japan and Asia. If you look at MK line (Wildbeat 90, SuperVR 90, 3D Dancer) , Kyosho (G-Trick, Sonic), Hirobo (Stream 90), JR (Explorer 90), Stage 90 and many others, you get the idea that most popular entry level practice planes are in 90-class. The old standard setup on 90-class ships was with 91AC/FZ, but since freestyle flying came, we need more power and hence the bored-out 110. I'm just amazed at the weight saving vs old 91- Almost 100 grams. That's really awesome power to weight ratio! : According to the website the largest possible bore-out of the 91 is actually 120, but they made it only 110 due to overheating/longitivity considerations.

javven I don't quite get your message? All YS-4Cs are "supercharged", except the 140DZ. They don't use a roots blower like the OS-120SC, they use crankcase pressure pressurize the tank. The "lunch box" on the 91/110 is the air chamber as Ed mentioned. The 91 is the only one left with this design, others like the 120 migrated to utilize the rocker arm chamber to save weight of the box.

For me, the "lunchbox" just looks so cool. It's really not much weight, the old 120AC (air chamber) was 1050g, the 120NC (no chamber) was 980g. And yes they can do without it but there goes the cool factor for me. I'm actually glad the 110 has it!

Thinking about it, YS is getting good at weight savings - the 120AC is 1050g, the new 110FZ (w/chamber) is only 665g , maybe they're getting this "boreout" idea from Saito? : : Matt

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YS Lovers - YS-110! - 8/9/2002 11:39:41 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by snsmith
DROOL...

But did you see the price? 51,000 yen...about $425 at the current exchange rate. I wonder how much Central will be selling them for, since the 91 is ~$275...
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See at
http://www.yspower.co.jp/
that the 91fz is rated at 49,800 yen in japan. So there is probably not a price problem.

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YS Lovers - YS-110! - 8/9/2002 5:19:41 PM   
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Ah...then there's hope it might still be in the $300 range. Hopefully they'll make it to the US soon...I have a couple of planes that I'd love to drop one of those into.

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YS Lovers - YS-110! - 8/9/2002 6:53:47 PM   
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Ooooh. This sounds like the new hot motor setup for the folks racing WM .40-sized Mustangs. Less weight and more power than the FZ-91s that are being run now.

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YS Lovers - YS-110! - 8/9/2002 7:37:07 PM   
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I thought that OS were good! Even the old fashioned dude at the club says that YSs are just in a world of their own, millions of miles ahead of everyone else. And boy did I find out when I got my L.
You really haven't lived till you have bought a YS! Period.
One happy YS owner.
Robert.
P.S.I LOVE my 140L! Can't wait to get a Dingo!

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YS Lovers - YS-110! - 8/9/2002 10:49:39 PM   
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YS FANS
I have many 4 strokes engines, OS's 40, 52, 91, 120, Saito 72 and now I finally bought YS 120 AC old model but NIB.
I believe this motor instead new had his regulator fixed for someone and got many problems during firsts runnings.
After understand the engine, I became fan and agree that is by far the best and more reliable engine.
Now I find more two 120 Ac's NIB and bought both.
Probably the new 110 will be lighter and more powerfull than these old 120 AC. Good new!!!

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YS Lovers - YS-110! - 8/10/2002 1:50:50 PM