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As the title says, yet another TF GS P47 build commencing.
I'm going to do a few things different on this one, for instance the retract gear will be relocated to the scale location by the addtion of a sub spar and other clevel tricks I've yet to design.
Colour scheme (what if it is natural metal with no colour?) will be based on the P47 Bubble top that is currently in the US hanger display at the Imperial War Museul at Duxford UK, had the chance to pore all over and photo up close last May when I was in the UK. Think it is a 56th FG ?
So far I have all the retract gear including mains, tail, tank, fittings and the Ultra Precision valve.
Need to get RX, servos, batteries oh and the G-62!!
As you can see from the pics this kit is huge.
pic 1: Hmmm nice box, bit heavy though
pic 2: ok lots of sticks here - if I tip it all out on my bench and squirt CA do you think it will work? No? Bugger!
pic 3: Now where did my little assistant go to? Ahhh there he is hiding behind the chair - in mischief mode as per normal
pic 4: Reference books all ready, still one on back order, wish it would bloody well hurry up, yeah yeah instant gratification personified!!
hmmm must be lunch o'clock as my tum is grumbling.
catch you lot later
cheers Peter
< Message edited by Peter_OZ -- 10/16/2004 2:40:37 AM >
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Peter, Sounds great! I just started on my fuse. The wings are waiting bottom sheeting, took a break as I wait to receive my wheels. In hinging the vert & hor stabs I didnt feel the hinge blocks glued inside the structure gave enough bite. You may want to use a thicker diameter hinge block than the supplied 1/4x1/2. I really beefed up the retract area and cut additional doublers out of 3/16ply for ribs 5&6, reinforced the LE where ribs 5&6 mate and afew other areas as well. I also finalized on theZDZ 80, With 1" standoffs it should be a perfect fit. Lastly the servo hatche covers for ailerons and flaps is 1/16" ply and flex so I laminated the inside of the hatch covers, also the ribs that the servo hatch rails sit on I strengthed with 1/8" balsa sheet doublers length wise between the main spar and the inner TE. This should make it much easier to secure the bottom sheeting plus give a better/stronger boundery arond the hatch. Just a few ideas for you to consider.. Its Friday night here in the States so better make sure the hands are free of CA! Cheers Kirk
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Peter,
Cute assistant you got there, he definitely has that aussie look to him. And you can tell that he is just thinking of what to get into next when you are not looking!
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thanks Kirk, will have to have a look into the wing structure in depth as I will be doing a few mods.
As for the stab I'm not real happy with the standard hinging and placement, I'm actually going to move the hinges to scale locations and I may even insert a brass tube to drive both elevators off a single pivot poit as in the full size. All theories at this stage. One definite thing though is to radius the LE of the elevator and have little extensions of thin play from the TE of the stab, again as per the full size. I think this may help reduce any flutter tendencies.
As for the rudder I am going to use pull - pull cable and will epoxy an alum horn arangement right through the rudder.
Well have run out of glue so SFA to pick out of my fingers this time. Will have to wait till after pay day to get some more - monthly salary payments suck. At least my wife gets paid fortnightly.
No flying today (Sun) as it is bloody windy so the little TA (trade assistant) aka my son is running around into mischief which is all good fun !!
Anyway I'm off like arotten bowl of rice ( ever smelt that?)
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Gday Parker, yeah he is a cute one and aterrible flirt with all the girls too. What do you mean when I'm not looking? He gets into it even if I am!! No wonder we call him Mr Villian hehehe
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Peter, All wind and rain here so no flying all building. Got the top half of the fuse about 90% done. FYI Make sure you add more stringers to the fus from F5 forward or the fus sheeting will have concave spots. I also changed the stringers from F3 forward to spruce. Regards Kirk
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Kirk, noted, thanks for the advice - will watch out for that area. Have you read the build reviews on the Topflite website? Worth reading. Also there is a Tech notice out on this kit so if you have not seen it you prob should.
cheers Peter
< Message edited by Peter_OZ -- 10/18/2004 3:52:30 AM >
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Hi Pete I have the same kit I purchased it about a year ago with plans to build it over the winter. But things change when I started traveling for my employer. So I hired a builder he will start build the Jug in November. Anyway I've been looking for a colour scheme and I see you have some reference books. I found a colour scheme of a P-47 bubble called eye candy with what looks like a varga girl on it. Have you seen this in any of the books you have? I sent a pic of a P-47 wall clock with the eye candy scheme on it. I found this in a Historic aviation catalog. What do you think. Doug
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According to a book I have, Eagles of Duxford, MX-X was named "No Guts No Glory" and not "Eye Candy". The plane belonged to the 82 FS and was piloted by Maj. Benjamin I. Mayo who was also the acting CO during June-Sept of 1944. Maj Mayo was also with the 84FS flying "No Guts No Glory" in the plane WZ-V.. The 78 FG was made up of the 82, 83 and 84 FS and all had the Checkered cowl starting around April of 1944. Many planes of the planes were not adorned with nose art like some P-47's of other FG's. Hope this helps.
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Hi Pete Yes I tried, BobH found some info on it and he believes the scheme is from eagles of Duxford. Also the plane was called No guts No glory. So I'm think the scheme eye candy is made up. Too bad thou it is a pretty catchy scheme. Pete and BobH thanks for the help.
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I'm pretty sure the scheme was made up, albiet a nice one. There are some nice schemes in the 78FG and they have a web site. You can do a search and view the info there. good luck
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Doug, I have actually got a few pics of that Duxford bird from when I was there last May, also have a lot of the camo version UN-N that is in the US hanger there.
Mind you "eye Candy" can park her stilletoes under my bed any time shhh don't tell me wife I said that hehehehe cheers Peter
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No wonder we call him Mr Villian hehehe 
