RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!!  
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Tower Hobbies
Enter up to 4 keywords or Tower stock numbers
Logged in as Guest



Users viewing this topic: easton24
  Printable Version
       

All Forums >> RC Airplanes >> RC Warbirds and Warplanes >> RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!!
Page: <<   < prev  1 [2] 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10   next >   >>  

Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!! - 10/25/2004 8:20:48 AM   
Henrik_Rosen



Posts: 195
Joined: 10/4/2002
From: J�nk�ping, SWEDEN
Status: offline 		I think that P-47 was in 78th Fighter Group, 82nd Fighter Squadron. Its a nice looking Jug.

You can find some info at http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/78thfg.jsp


_____________________________

Henrik Rosen
SWEDEN

(in reply to Kirk RC)
       Post #: 26

RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!! - 10/25/2004 11:25:49 PM   
Peter_OZ



Posts: 4152
Joined: 6/5/2002
From: Brisbane, , AUSTRALIA
Status: offline 		Bob,
you may be right however I just love making things work and if I can replicate scale flaps for my 47 it will give me a lot of satisfaction.

I have asked Robart for some actual size drawings of the hinges so that I can check if the idea is feasible or not. As the flaps will be one of the last things built it is not really a major issue at this stage.

cheers
PEter

(in reply to BobH)
       Post #: 27

RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!! - 10/25/2004 11:37:44 PM   
Peter_OZ



Posts: 4152
Joined: 6/5/2002
From: Brisbane, , AUSTRALIA
Status: offline 		Hi Kirk,
mate know what you mean, the dust and accumulated rubbish that builds up is amazing, luckily I just have a concrete fllor so it is easy to clan up and I have lots of room.

Will keep you posted on the flaps. The major problem at the moment is procurement as I can not buy direct from Robart - only US and Canada and the local hobby shops do not stock specialty items not are they very willing to help much. I did contact our Oz distributor who told me yes they could get them in but I have to order through a hobby shop. So Robart adds on their price, then distributor then hobby shop. Bugger that!

If it comes down to I will see if a colleague in our New York office can forward them on to me if I get them sent there.

As for all those extra stringers, you really should not have had to add all of that. The shape of the sheeting should stop a lot of warping. Did you pre shape before fitting?

What I do is to wrap the sheets around a suitable object such a large coffee jar or similar that will give me a correct curvature once it is realeased. Just use rubber bands to hold it in place. Then I soak the sheets overnight in warm water with a a liberal amount o cloudy ammonia, still wrapped around the round tube.

When in the morning you unwrap the sheet from the tube it will be curved and will bend to the fuz shape very easily with no distortions. Try it on your next project.

Was going to post some piccies but keep forgetting to bring the flash card to work with me!!

Have posted 2 pics from a P47 that is at the US hanger at Duxford UK, note on the ELEV LE and on the Rudder LE that it is not a stright line but that the ends sweep back.

Snow, lucky bugger, we have to travel about 700 miles to get to the snow fields during winter if we want to go skiing. Oh well will just have to put up with golden beaches and surf instead

cheers
PEter

Attachments
Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize 		Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize


< Message edited by Peter_OZ -- 10/26/2004 1:20:07 AM >

(in reply to Kirk RC)
       Post #: 28

RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!! - 10/27/2004 2:40:13 AM   
Peter_OZ



Posts: 4152
Joined: 6/5/2002
From: Brisbane, , AUSTRALIA
Status: offline 		ok a few more piccies of progress.

cheers
Peter

Attachments
Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize 		Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize 		Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize 		Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize

(in reply to Peter_OZ)
       Post #: 29

RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!! - 10/27/2004 2:47:15 AM   
Peter_OZ



Posts: 4152
Joined: 6/5/2002
From: Brisbane, , AUSTRALIA
Status: offline 		ok last 2 for now

Attachments
Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize 		Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize

(in reply to Peter_OZ)
       Post #: 30

RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!! - 10/27/2004 5:06:21 AM   
Kirk RC


 

Posts: 264
Joined: 4/14/2003
From: Salt lake, UT, USA
Status: offline 		Peter,
Your most likely correct in pre shaping the balsa sheet. I didnt do that, but also feel the space between the stringers was just to wide. Heck after I sand down that 3/32 I was concerned that I would put my fingers right thru it. I joined the wing halfs and made enclosed wheel wells. I just hate open wells that allow all the dirt, dust and whatnot into the wing. I also glassed the wing joint for extra strength as I will be using monokote. Your tail feathers look good with the swept back hinge lines! That I would of liked to have done. At first I was thinking the Canopy was to small, I had heard via this site that it was slightly larger than the 1/7 P-47. Now that I look at it on the fuse it looks fine and it is much larger then the 1/7 canopy. Your thoughts? The wing will be done this week come hell or high water! With the major stuff all done I can then spend the winter months finishing, radio install, hour here hour there etc. I start a new job next Monday so my opportunity to spend alot of time building will be very limited. You mentioned you travel often, I stopped counting roundtrips from US to Asia after I made 50, that was in '92. I was then a expat in Japan, HK, Bangkok, Singapore. I would often take the BA flight (I think it was BA12) that originated in Sidney stopped in BK and continued to London. I always felt sorry for my associates in Australia who had to travel 20+ hours just to get anywhere. We will open a new office in Shanghi this April so long trips again are in my future. Keep on building!
Cheers,
Kirk

(in reply to Peter_OZ)
       Post #: 31

RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!! - 10/27/2004 5:23:42 AM   
Peter_OZ



Posts: 4152
Joined: 6/5/2002
From: Brisbane, , AUSTRALIA
Status: offline 		Gday Kirk,

hmm sounds like you may be oversanding. If you are not going to glass (why the phluck not???) then a light sand, a thin coat of dope and then light sand again should be all that's needed.

Monocoat? Ughhhhh yuk hate the stuff! Give me glass and paint any day.

As for the canopy I would have to go measure the one in the kit then do a calculation based on my 3 views which are 1:72, think the diff is a factor of about 12.5. Anyway knowing TF it most likely is not exact scale but as long as it is pretty close I'll leave it as is.

See we don't have an off season from flying, especially here in Brisbane in God's own country in the State of Queensland - don't worry I'm no Bible basher and no offence if you are!! ok time to change feet. back to my point which was, ummm sound like Billy Connolly without the wit hehehe yeah yeah ok back to my point the weather here even in winter only gets to a min of 18C and max up to say about 30 at times during the day so we have no limit on flying - sooo no huge period when all we do is build. Some snow would be nice though but can not see that beach and snow would go together!

My biggest limitation is time, balancing work, family and hobby plus any other activites is a clever trick. Yes those long flights are the pits and the company i am with you have to be aDirector and above to get Business class so I get to enjoy 24 hr trips crammed into cattle class. sometimes I upgrade myself using points if the flights have room but lately the Oz - UK sector has been chockers so no chance of doing that of late. Going up to SIN is no big deal, it's only about 7 hours from Brisbane and I normally just snooze all the way after a couple of wines.

Let me know if you get down this way anytime and I'll show you Brissy..

cheers
Peter

(in reply to Kirk RC)
       Post #: 32

RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!! - 10/31/2004 4:25:53 AM   
Kirk RC


 

Posts: 264
Joined: 4/14/2003
From: Salt lake, UT, USA
Status: offline 		Peter,
Would love to take you up on the offer next time Im in your hemisphere. Many fond trips to Australia including the Oly games. As we say here in the States we would exchange Canada for Australia in a flash. Almost finished the wing just the port flap left and then align to fuse and bolt. When you put in the flap hinges dont go more than 1/8" forward of the TE on the wing where the flap mates. If you do youll miss the hinge block, The plans dont give you the degree for the holes they just show the jig in pictures. I went 35 degree and its more like 42. No flying again this weekend as we have another snow storm. The Mtns have the most snow for this time of year since '82. Next week on the road, so no building. Hopefully I will spend most of Sunday afternoon on the 47. Wife just returned from a week in NYNY so no CA on the hands tonight. Glass of Port, Nice fire...yadada ...yadada
Keep me posted,
Kirk

(in reply to Peter_OZ)
       Post #: 33

RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!! - 11/1/2004 2:04:20 AM   
Peter_OZ



Posts: 4152
Joined: 6/5/2002
From: Brisbane, , AUSTRALIA
Status: offline 		Kirk,

mate no worries, gives us a hoy when you are down this way. hmm wonder what the Canuks would think about that!!

Anyway actually did a little bit last night, made the rudder skins and sheeted one side of the fin. Went to a Warbirds flyin in Sunday and took my small Pica Spit but did not fly as my battery for the started and glow driver carked it. Was going to borrow one then the wind picked up so thought "ok the gremlins are speaking so leave it on the ground" To which I did.

some nice models there, big P40 @ 90", Spit mk IX at about 94", smil sized texan and Zero. Not a bad turn out actually.


yeah I had heard about those hinges causing probs. Still thinking about using the fowler flap hinges. Robart are posting me some scale drawings of their units so will have a look and see if it is feasible or not.

Well hope you enjoyed the port, the fire and the yadda yadda hehehe

as we say any port in a storm or is it any storm in a port!!

cheers
Peter

(in reply to Kirk RC)
       Post #: 34

RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!! - 11/1/2004 4:08:05 AM   
Kirk RC


 

Posts: 264
Joined: 4/14/2003
From: Salt lake, UT, USA
Status: offline 		Peter,
Well both flaps are now done and the wing aligned and bolted, started on the belly pan. I used 3/32 liteply to cover the bottom hinge gap in the flaps. Worked out very nice plus gave the hinge area a little more strength. The flaps were not that difficult just took a bunch of sanding and patience, thank god for my belt sander. The wing aligned perfect and both wing hold down bolts tapped straight in, cant remember when a wing aligned this easy! No flying here this weekend, 8" of snow today and another 8" tonight. Next weekend is projected to be nice, but I'm off to Wyoming to go Elk hunting with my two teenage boys. After all this snow the Elk should be low in the valleys, just hope the horse's can get through.
Kirk

(in reply to Peter_OZ)
       Post #: 35

RE: TF GS P47 Build - yeah another bloody one!! - 11/1/2004 6:58:04 AM   
SBR_RV



Posts: 839
Joined: 8/23/2003
From: mildura, AUSTRALIA
Status: offline 		peter oz, well iam down here to in mildura victoria, not much people have heard of wind or rain down here, so many chances to go fly slow flyers, in the summer it gets a little hot in summer though as does any were in australia.
well i have a question for you, where did you get your p-47, was it over seas or in australia, thinking about ordering the smaller size.

(in reply to Kirk RC)
       Post #: 36