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    RE: U Can Do 3D - 11/8/2007 12:43:10 AM   
    msn_jrd



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    it would be awsome to get to see those big birds fly like that on a regular bases we have a guy thats got some 46%ers but cant 3d em it would make it a little hard to get use to though haveing 5 or 6000 hangin on a $100 prop hehe
    my do is doing great tons of fun every time flying the ep do too it just as much fun has a thing or 2 about it but dont they all fixing to put a ys 110 on the 60 cant wait till it comes in. looks like ill be frizein this winter the old mag 120 is always almost enough leave ya wanting more planes about 9lbs and the mag is no power house

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    RE: U Can Do 3D - 12/5/2007 1:41:01 AM   
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    I think the do's going to be a whole new bird. Just got my new ys 110s mounted and runin and WOW!!!! why did i wait so long, its going to be killer. havein't had it in the air yet. spoil up is like crazy with a 16x6 and the transtion is like a fuel injucted V8 perfect, and would trun it 9900 easy very rich not even broke in yet think it could get 10700 mabe 11000 going to have to put some more prop on it less pitch and more inches for the do. Sence i don't spend much time at full throtle for 3d keep her around 9800-10000 says shes good up to 11000 though

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    RE: U Can Do 3D - 12/5/2007 2:36:39 AM   
    gjeffers



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    Yea..... yur gonna have fun now

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    RE: U Can Do 3D - 12/5/2007 2:46:13 PM   
    MIXMASTER



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    We have a couple guys fly 35% -40%, 2 of them can bring it DOD whenever they want, one of them does it every time out, I mean DOD-tail touches, drags the rudder in the ground in harriers, even harrier landings, thats ScottZ in my gallery. We had a mid-air 2 weeks ago, not even 3-D'ing, just one of those things that make you sick, 2 planes,maybe 7-8 grand smashing into each other. I'm think about flying this weekend, don't know if Scottz will. I have just finished repairing my Do, was tailtouching after sunset & it was dark, the rudder hit & it cartwheeled, broke in half. This makes think about the Mojo, Fusion, if only the wing tips & stab tips get damaged, then repairs would be easier.

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    RE: U Can Do 3D - 12/5/2007 2:52:06 PM   
    Barry Cazier


     

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    msn jrd...

    As Gary said...yur gonna have fun now.

    I had a 100 on my UCD for a year and loved it. I didn't think it could get any better. Then on a whim I put on the mighty 110 and WOW! What a difference. Could not believe it. That's when I got it to start doing the inverted rising flat spin. Everything was "snappier". It was just great. Still one of my very favorite planes.

    Mix...I'd love to see you fly. You have way more confidence than me. I bring it down to 6-10 feet and can reliably hover for many seconds but lower....??!?!?!?!? I'm trying but I just can't get there.

    I've broke several of my UCDs in two also. They can be fragile. However, I also broke my first Fusion in half. Just behind the wing. Soooooo profiles aren't the perfect answer. Does fly better in many ways than the Do though.

    Thanks
    Barry

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    RE: U Can Do 3D - 12/5/2007 3:31:01 PM   
    MIXMASTER



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    Ive got some vids but I dont know how to get them small enough to send via e-mail. They are not much compared to the "commercials" but I can huck a little. You broke the FG tube in a Fusion??? Was it a high speed thing or low & slow "hard landing"? (I hate the "C" word!) One thing I know, there is always less damage when hovering right DOD compared to 10' or 15' up. I've survived 2 flame outs with just broken prop & bent gear when 1' off the ground. Knowing this helps me get it DOD, I just relax & let it come down, if you've done it many times with confidence 10' up, you can do it LOWER.

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    RE: U Can Do 3D - 12/6/2007 6:07:54 AM   
    Barry Cazier


     

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    I'm not sure really why I crashed my first Fusion. Probably just inattention. I was powering out of a flat spin and got up to a pretty good speed and did an upright "pancake" right in front of me. Broke both wings right at the tube and the fuse at the back of the wing. Tore the engine out and ruined the engine mount as well. It was about a 3/4 throttle pancake job. Hit pretty hard. I'm sure my UCD would have been total toothpicks. I was just really starting to enjoy the Fusion. I think that was about my 20th flight on it. Happened last November (2006). I immediately ordered another one because I really liked it.

    One tip when you build yours. Just cut a groove in the side of the fuse for the servo leads. I tried till I was sick to fish all 3 servo leads through the small crooked tunnel and just couldn't get it done. I ended up just "ripping" a groove with my finger to get the thing open enough to get the wires through. On my 2nd one I just opened up the side with my Xacto knife and then just covered with Ultra Coat. Didn't even bother putting the balsa sheeting on it. That was so much easier. And much less frustrating. Also I had a bit of trouble locating and mounting the throttle servo. I used a mini HS85. When it's all said and done I think it's quite a bit harder build than the UCD but not that bad. It's a great flying plane. I've only flown my 2nd one about 20 flights because I've been moving into the gas planes. But the other day I flew glow for a day and had a great time. I just enjoy flying.

    Funny how some planes do some stunts very well and not so good on others. The UCD for me is the rising flat spin. The Fusion is the rolling Harriers. The Velox it KE. My Mayhem was great spins and easy landings. The UCD and the Fusion hover about the same (easy). My Wild Hare Edge is the KE Spin and waterfalls. Etc...etc. The other planes will do the same things in many cases but they all seem somewhat specialized. Maybe I've just grown to expect that out of them.

    This winter I've commited myself to do a tail touch. I'm beefing up the UCD elevators and rudder (pinning) for the occasion. Some of the guys I fly with fly with skis in the winter off of soft snow. They say it's a no brainer. Anyways, I'm gonna saddle up the UCD and I'm gonna bury the tail in the nice soft fluffy stuff and learn how to do it. I can back down from 20' to ten or so and then nothing works. No matter what I do I can't get any lower. I sware even if I had a flame out it wouldn't go lower. I'm gonna work on that this winter. Normally I don't fly in the cold but my buddies are making me. Anyways...we're gonna give it a heck of try.

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    Barry


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    RE: U Can Do 3D - 12/6/2007 4:07:08 PM   
    MIXMASTER



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    Did the FG tubes in the Fusion break??? I thought they ran the full length of the fuse? Any hoo, if you got another one, they must be pretty good. I have a little experience with profiles, built 2 Su Do Khoi kits, I also discovered that cutting channels in the sides was the way to route wires. I even had the fuel tank inside the wing root area, used 2 long brass tubes to protrude thru the leading edge balsa, then just fuel tubing to the engine. It was only 8oz. so it just fit.( it had fat wings) I loved that little bird, its what inspired Scottz to go 3-D & join our club. Its ironic that I lost that plane in a mid-air 10 yrs ago. I think I read in a thread that some are actually cutting the connectors off, fishing the wires only thru the hole, then re-solder. I can solder with the best of them, but will have to be pretty frustrated to go that length. You're right about each having their own traits, seems like you need at least 2-3 planes to get everything. The Velox is great, but doest do some of the things a Do will, & vice-versa with the Do. One thing about tail touching,there is a point you have to get past, its nerves, & nothing more, you need to get used to seeing your plane near the ground. Do it in steps if you have to, as long as you can hold a hover for lets say 15 seconds or more 10' & do it consistantly, then you know you are ready to get lower. I usually lose it a little each time I come down a few feet, I recover, get it stable, then cut the throttle again, & keep going down. Even if you dont tail touch, just hovering 1-3 ' was a whole new feeling for me, I knew I could touch after that.

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    RE: U Can Do 3D - 12/6/2007 5:05:09 PM   
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    I'm a very new pilot. The U-can-do 60 is one of the options I'm considering as a second plane. In doing my pre-purchase research, I am looking for mods, particuarly as they relate to the main gear. I've seen some comments that suggest it benefits from some reenforcement. I've done a number of searchs but they return so many threads that its been difficult to find a reference to specific modifications. No doubt some suggests are made within this thread but . . . its a bit long. Specific page references within this thread would be welcome though.

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    RE: U Can Do 3D - 12/6/2007 6:12:12 PM   
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    ... I am looking for mods, particuarly as they relate to the main gear. I've seen some comments that suggest it benefits from some reenforcement.

    See Post # 526 by STLPilot in the "U-Can-Do 3d 46?" thread at the URL below.

    http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_817264/mpage_22/key_/tm.htm

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    RE: U Can Do 3D - 12/6/2007 6:51:58 PM   
    MIXMASTER



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    You can place tri-stock in the corners of the LG formers. You access that area thru the fuel tank opening at the wing leading edge area.
    Its a little tight, but I put them in vertically from the ply LG plate to the top of the formers, 4 total. Then I join the 2 formers with a block of hardwood, it can be square, it needs to be about the same width as the LG ply plate. You could use hard balsa soaked w/CA to save some weight. This usually makes the LG strong enough for harrier landings which are pretty tough on the gear. I've had one gear come loose even after the mods, I found almost no glue under the ply plate, not much you can do about that.

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    RE: U Can Do 3D - 12/6/2007 10:27:35 PM   
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    As for servo connectors, I think one of the easiest ways to deal with them is to remove just the plastic part of the male/ female connector and the plug each pin together individually and secure with heat shrink. Obviously make sure that all of the pins are totally covered so that they can't touch. This makes the wires easy to fish and they can be returned to stock by just putting the plastic back on.

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