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is this how the japanesse fly? - 12/11/2001 6:49:07 AM   
T28pilot



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Status: offline 		i seen this on the kyosho website on how to fly rc or something like that.........

since when do you put you throttle and ailerons on the same stick?

that isn't possible! well i guess it is but that side of the radio sticks center them selves?..............

i think it was a mistake but i included the picture they have on that page.........

it thought it was a little comical

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is this how the japanesse fly? - 12/11/2001 6:59:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can see that you're not familiar with Mode 1. The pictures are correct for Mode 1 as that's what they fly over there.


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RE: japanesse - 12/11/2001 7:09:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		No i am not familiar with mode one ..........

Please enlighten me.......

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is this how the japanesse fly? - 12/11/2001 8:59:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I will try, but I am far from being an expert in radios. Radios back in the 50's and early 60's (sorry but that's as far back as I can go) were set up this way because of the radio design. It had something to do with the signal or something, but as radios evolved it wasn't necsasary and we moved into Mode 2 which is what you are using. Even though Mode 2 is the most popular here in ths States most countries still use Mode 1. Japan and the pacific rim down to Australia, New Zealand use this Mode and many if not all European countries. Most of the guys up here call it Mode 1, Archaiac. Hope this has made some sense and somebody with more knowledge jumps in and helps me out.


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RE: mode 1 - 12/11/2001 9:39:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		yes you have enlightened me about this..........i did not know this

Very interesting.........

i would think you would need some expo programed in to the ailerons so as not to be all over the place.........

i was thinking maybe that mode1 was made for lefties........

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is this how the japanesse fly? - 12/11/2001 11:21:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		You will also find that a lot of pattern flyers use either mode 1 or mode 3. The separation of the two main flight controls (ailerons/elevator) provides more precise control.

Also Art is right, many other countries outside of the USA use Mode 1, but ailerons/throttle on the left stick is actually Mode 3.

See:

http://www.flyingsites.co.uk/newcomers/controls/radiomode.htm

for a better description.

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is this how the japanesse fly? - 12/11/2001 11:30:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am a Mode1 flyer. I flew Mode2 for many years. I was trying to test and trim my first pattern aircraft when a few other experenced pattern flyers at the field came over to give me some advice. They were all Mode1 flyers. These flyers were all placing high at contests which is what I was interested in at that time. They told me of some supposed advantages of Mode1 such as having the aileron and elevator on different sticks so they did not interact. I was flying low wing aircraft and flying sportman pattern. I built a high wing trainer with a new Mode1 radio and relearned the sticks. That was around 1980. I have been flying Mode1 since then. I only fly Mode2 to help another flyer once in a while. I'm not saying any mode is better than any other. Mode1 works best for me. A quick check of some contest results will show that what you learn on and how much you practice is what really counts, and Mode2 out numbers Mode1 in the U S of A by a wide margine. Also some flyers have more "thumb instinct" and could (and do) fly any mode including mode 3 and excel (myself un-cluded). In my opinion the person that sticks with it and burns the fuel will excel. Bob

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is this how the japanesse fly? - 12/11/2001 10:55:22 PM   
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Now that makes me dizzy!!!!!!!!


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re:mode 1 - 12/11/2001 11:11:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh by the way HAPPY BIRTHDAY GrnBrt

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Why Thank You - 12/12/2001 12:32:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Now that's very nice of you T-28, thank you very much. I just wish this old body wasn't feeling the age so much today.


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is this how the japanesse fly? - 12/12/2001 5:32:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey T28,

We MAY be needing a larger cake to hold all the candles for the old far....errrr goat!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BUDDY!!

Gary

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re:mode 1 - 12/12/2001 5:55:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		I tried but they limit us to 150 kb too small for THAT MANY CANDLES LOL:p

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is this how the japanesse fly? - 12/12/2001 8:36:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks guys, well I think. The Wife lit the candles on my cake and it set off the smoke detector, oh well such is life!


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is this how the japanesse fly? - 12/15/2001 5:26:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		It would seem as though it would make 3D moves easier for right handers since the all-important rudder would be on the right stick. I dare not try on a real plane but I will try on a sim.

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