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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 11/7/2004 3:15 AM

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I will answer your question with YES.....

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 11/7/2004 3:18 AM

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Sorry....I meant that the combo would work...

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 11/7/2004 3:19 AM

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**cough**

anyone? I feel like im being ignored!! lol

Dude, no answer = I don't know....

I don't know anything about that bell... as a matter of fact, I don't even have an Evader.

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 11/7/2004 4:18 AM

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lol.. thats ok frost
thanks Ray, im adding that stuff to my towerhobbies wish list now...
this is going to be a fast evader (well...fastER)

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 11/7/2004 8:09 PM

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Frost....

Thanks for your answer and going to the effort to explaine. I finally had a chance to try the car and engine at the Rose Bowl parking lot this morning. The Lot is clean but very smooth asphalt. Contributes to a lot of tire spin. Last night I changed the MIP shoes to leading edge and added the weights. Engagement comes early off idle, then a lot of wheel spin. Clutch bell did not get excessively hot but I contribute this to the slick asphalt surface so not a lot of strain on it.

I did not like the early engagement. So................. based on your advise, I am going to order the aluminum shoes today and run them in the trailing position.

I conclude from your explination, in this configuration, you get RPM off idle to be able to launch hard but not so much slip so as to overheat the clutch bell or have slippage after the clutch is supposed to lock up.

By the way, new .18 O.S. pulls like crazy and makes the RC10 act like it is on ice. Having more fun with this than any other truck or buggy I have so far.

Thanks again..... Will let everyone know how they work out for me too.

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 11/7/2004 11:47 PM

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I do beleave that the mip shoes for the GT where ment to work with a .12 engine with lower hp.

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 11/9/2004 10:15 AM

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Got mine yesterday, can't wait to run it!

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 11/9/2004 12:22 PM

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Cool, post back your results if you have time.

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 11/9/2004 12:49 PM

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No worries mate will do.It probably won't be for another 2 weeks or so tho. I just hope my CB dosn't look like this after a few runs:

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 11/9/2004 12:58 PM

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 11/14/2004 8:22 PM

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FROST...

Upon your advise, I ordered the aluminum clutch shoes from http://www.ssrcracing.com/team-associated.html for my rc10gt.

This morning I installed them in the trailing positton. My set-up is as follows:

RC10 GT RTR
18 tooth clutch bell
Slipper clutch set tight
O.S. .18 engine with about 1/2 gallon of O'Donnels 25 percent thru it
Dirt Hawg tires in back and Road Hawg tires in front.
Aluminum Shoes in trailing position

The results. Absolutely perfect engagment. Lets the engine rev up a little to just get to the start of its power band when there is a smooth engagment that under power looks like about 6 feet.

Pull the throttle hard from the start and it is tire burning to the point of going out of control. Pull smoothly and a very fast and controlled drag race start. When car is rolling about 20 mph, a quick pull (about 2/3) on the throttle brings the front end up about 30 degrees if you let off some right away. Pull any more and you get an 80 degree wheelie.

So, it is very easy to start at about 20 mph and pull a series of 30 degree wheelies going down the road, maybe 4 or 5 of them.

I made a series of full speed starts one right after the other and then one full speed run and pulled the car in. Pulled the body and immediately put my finger on the clutch bell. It was warm but by no means hot. Way cooler then ever before.

Last........you were right. Very good investment . Took about 1 week to get.

Thanks

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 11/23/2004 2:02 AM

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UPDATE!!!

I got the following email today:

Hello xxxxxx,

The clutch shoes you are currently running may be made of 7075-T6 material....... There has been a mistake of the kind of material used. 7068-T6 is the harder material we have switched and you will be recieving another pair of clutch shoes of the correct material, at no charge what so ever!
The 7075-T6 clutch shoes will work fine for a while but tend to wear a little to quick for our standards, so use them till they puke, then replace them with the new shoes which will be going out the door today!! You will recieve them sometime this week!

Along the way, I have pulled my CB to check on the shoes 4 or 5 times and the shoes show NO SERIOUS WEAR AT ALL... So I guess that mine were good from the beginning (or either their standards are SERIOUSLY HIGH) and I will be getting a nice free setup!! How many places would do this for their customers?

I can't stress this enough, and I don't care whether you are running a monster engine or not, if you have a GT you HAVE TO GET THIS SETUP. It will absolutely not disappoint...

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 11/23/2004 1:25 PM

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Yeah, I got that email....

I haven't even installed my first set ye

owning a house has it's ups and downs!

Will be installing them tonight. Can't wait!

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 11/24/2004 2:28 AM

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HOLY COW!!!! Talk about not slipping... at all! I tried the "low RPM" engagement and was a bit abrupt.. engine didn't get a chance to wind up at all, then did the "standard" install with no weights.. perfect. I have the RR 16t clutch and 66t spur on it also. I had the stiffest springs (red) on the back and was wheelieing like crazy. Thought it wasn't transferring any weight, was just pivoting on the rear wheels, so I put med (blue) springs on.. yeah, uhhh, still a wheelie machine... LOL

Can't reccommend this clutch setup with any more enthusiasm... awesome.

All in all, a fun night to wrench on the car. Installed some RR stuff, some RPM stuff, some SS stuff...... I love this hobby.

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 11/25/2004 10:06 PM

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I saw they sold a clutch set for the t-maxx. Does anyone have it on the t-maxx?
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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 12/3/2004 5:02 PM

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I am running a crap Kyosho GX15 with duratrax filter and tuned pipe and light weight flywheel in my buggy, currently running tamiya TGX shoes and kyosho hardened steel bell, the problem is, after running it in my front yard, it will wheelie from standstill from one end of my yard (100ft) to the other quite easily, but the clutch gets way too hot to touch, and after a few tanks the car will refuse to wheelie, i remedy this by sanding the glaze off the clutch shoes, but my patience is wearing thin...

As soon as my GX15 wears out again (2nd piston/liner) i am putting in my O.S .12 CV and changing the shoes to stock T-Maxx items.

Do you reccomend the aluminium shoes for my car or is the .12 CV too gutless? Do you think i will get better and more consistant performance?

Also, are the alloy shoes much heavier? Do i need a much stiffer clutch spring or maybe use 2 springs?

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 12/4/2004 1:45 AM

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Mine came with the spring already installed, wrapped around the two shoes, so all I had to do was slip it onto the two pegs and put the clutch bell back on. I had already shortened the pegs from when I had installed the MIP clutch shoes.

So...... complete. Just put it on.

Dennis

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 12/4/2004 8:00 PM

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I just got around to ordering the clutch. I hope it holds up to my gearing. I am using a 62 spur and I have an 18 cb and a 22 cb.(wll try them both) I also purchased the Tmaxx alum clutch, I will report how it works when I get a few tanks on it. Frost thanks for the info.

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 12/9/2004 11:30 AM

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I got my harder shoes today. They didn't even email me! just sent them. They have VERY good customer service!! Still wating on parts for my engine though ARR!

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 12/10/2004 3:45 AM

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Im so lost on the subject i just cant grasp the concept of this anyone have some pictures?

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 12/10/2004 4:38 AM

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Im so lost on the subject i just cant grasp the concept of this anyone have some pictures?

How about READING THE WHOLE THREAD.... there just might be some in here...

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 12/10/2004 4:47 AM

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frost, lol i did i need some pictures so i know how to put it together, thos pictures that are here i cant see anything

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 12/10/2004 5:14 AM

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frost, lol i did i need some pictures so i know how to put it together, thos pictures that are here i cant see anything

You said you had an MIP setup already (or now I should I say thay apparently you don't) ...... well....

.....doesn't it look awfully familiar?

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 12/10/2004 5:24 AM

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I never said i had a mip 4 in 1i was simply asking about it to upgrade an rc10gt but wasnt sure if it was the best choice.... one more thing Frost

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RE: No More PUNY MIP GT Clutch... - 12/10/2004 5:38 AM

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You will need to grind some mateial off the stock flywheel pins to make it fit.

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