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RE: tuning and running - 11/22/2004 8:17:43 PM   
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Let us know how our recommended race setups work for you.

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RE: tuning and running - 11/22/2004 10:34:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CEN Racing

Here is our Team Drivers (Andrew Smolnik, and Mike Walker) set-ups for the GENESIS when Racing. This will help with the handeling of the GENESIS.

Shocks: 10wt shock oil (silicone) all around with the #3 pistons. (largest hole pistons included with truck) Remove the top shock when racing. Lower the body as low as possible. This helps with LCG (low center of gravity) and the engine will cool more efficiently. Run 15mm shock clips to each shock.. clips included in the kit.

Body: Trim a 2 1/2" circle in the windshield for increased air flow to the engine. You also may need to trim the body a bit where the engine sits, when lowering it.

ENGINE: Removing the baffles inside the pipe increases the power band, however keep in mind that the noise level is much louder. Back pressure is not affected. Engine Settings. Top end: 3 1/4 turns out. Bottom end. 2 turns in from flush.

Differentials: Front and Rear differentials are filled with 100,000 wt silicone oil. Center Differential installed, (NO locker for racing) Use 300,000 + wt silicone oil. (not even sure you should call it oil at this point.. ; )

Shift Units: 2nd speed 5 1/2 turns out. 3rd speed 7 1/2 turns out. Adjustments may vary depending on the size of track..

For racing the Reverse servo is removed and reverse unit is locked into forward position only.


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OKay CEN Racing
i'll try to explain my self here. I did quote because i wanted to show you that you said that the #3 piston to the shocks is included wiyh the truck, but on my piston I only seen number 1 on them is this the #3 piston? And one more question, on the shocks their are numbers on them for an example 6 of them have number 2 and 4 of them have number 1, Is this what piston they have or what is it? If that's the case I was woundering how i will do to change it to #3 piston if I don't have them?
But I can be wrong here the number on them is'nt the piston number???

Thanks

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RE: tuning and running - 11/23/2004 7:03:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		ok i have done most of that but am a little unclear on what is ment by center diff there are only 2 arnt there ?? front and rear ?? and why there are 2 different types of oil used ??
please explain

also now that i have it together and all the mods done i have been trying to start it and have had no luck its being a real **** b4 i took it of the road to fix the diff and do the race mods it was fine now im having alot of trouble and i havnt touched the engine at all it seems to be getting fuel ok and the glow plug is fine it allmost kicks over but not quite and the coulpe of times it has as soon as i go to get going it stalls and then is hard to start again, I am using a rotorstart with a pretty crappy batt in it and i only get about 30min out of it b4 i have to recharge it so i dont get many chances i think this week its of to get a 3300mha NH batt i think they are supposed to be good any responce on good batteries ??

anyways any ideas on my fuel/startting issues ??

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RE: tuning and running - 11/24/2004 6:20:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi CEN RACING I've made a (nice !) video... tell me whet you think of it!

Ciao

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RE: tuning and running - 11/24/2004 6:22:03 PM   
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Here it is!


http://www.rcpics.net/view_single.php?medid=41108

Ciao

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RE: tuning and running - 11/30/2004 7:54:12 PM   
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The GENESIS 46 comes with #2 shock pistons installed. With your truck there are a bag of #1 pistons and also a bag of #3 pistons. The #3 pistons is recommended by our team drivers. The # on the shocks has no meaning, these are just for production use.


Powerslave,

There are actually three differentials. Front, Rear, and Center. The center differential use to come locked on the GENESIS. If yours is locked then you should install the center differential gears that were included with your truck. With the wt oil suggested.


Toto,

Great Stuff! That looks like a fun place to drive rc vehicles. Nothing like that out here on the west coast of the US.

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RE: tuning and running - 12/1/2004 1:46:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the answer. I did find the #3 piston hehehe somehow. Another question what kind of oil is it in stock shock, or what should I use if I wanted to change the oil.?? of course if I change the oil I will change the piston to #3. So what oil are your team drivers use with the #3 piston???
It would be great to hear some racing result from CEN.
To the last question what is turbo on your 2,5 turbo engine?? Is it the ports or what??? Do you have any part number on that engine???

Jadda

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RE: tuning and running - 12/2/2004 7:52:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		hey is there anyway to get new clutch and diff parts in U.S. .I have 2 genesis and id like to set one up with them.I talk to andrew mostly.Where can i get them?thanks schuyler@united.net.

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RE: tuning and running - 12/2/2004 5:42:42 PM   
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Our Team Drivers use 10 wt oil all around. Use silicone oil. You can find this at any local hobby shop.

We will have racing results very soon. There are a few large races coming up, and the GENESIS will be competeing.

The turbo engine has 8 ports as opposed to the standard 4, and it utilizes a "turbo head and glow plug" which is a concaved glow plug that provide more power.

CEN RACING

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RE: tuning and running - 12/5/2004 6:19:04 AM   
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ive been having a few issues getting my genny started the glow plug and warmer is all good and im using a rotor start it wants to kick over but it cant quite get there it starts somtimes but i use it for a bit and then when i stop i cant get it started again for ages, What is the screw on the side of the carb do ?? not the mixure screw above the idle screw as per the maual which one is the main screw and bottom end screw ?? it has been running perfetly for a few weeks now but the other day i fliped it on concrete and landed upside down which in turn cracked one of the fins on the heat sink (but didnt break it of) i also noticed that the head bolts were a bit losses so desided to re lockthight them and tur the head cooler around so if i fliped it again i would break the other side intstead and since then NO GOOD to start any clues on how i could trouble shoot this problem would be greatly appriciated cheers again.

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RE: tuning and running - 12/7/2004 6:15:58 PM   
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You need to make sure that when you took off your engine head that you did not misplace a head gasket. There should be two brass gaskets. also, make sure that all six head screws are tightened equally. This is important. If you have any air or fuel leak starting the engine will be difficult. The screw on the side of the carburator is your idle screw. This simply adjusts your idle while running. Also, check your fuel line for small holes. Glow plug may be damaged as well. Thanks for your question.

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RE: tuning and running - 12/8/2004 9:58:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		yhea i found out what the problem was losse head bolts i feel like a real nuckle head i must have not checked it properly now running all good race mods are all done and ready to rock and roll BUT ITS RAINING DAMM
yhea not that one, There is the Brass mixture ! below that there is the Black idle screw ! and on the other side there is a screw mounted on the center of the slidding part of the carb this screw is the one i am talking of ??
my LHS played with it when i took it to them to play with and now the car is running ok idle's fine but i dont seem to have as much power as i did b4 and also engine seems to be running hotter then i would like for the amount of power that it has ?

also a question in regards with the new genny's that were just shipped out did they come pre intalled with the new clutches and diff's ?? just cause my mate just got one and with it came packaged with a diff locker not center bev gears ??
also i noticed that it comes pre installed with the 15mm suspension spacers instead of the 6mm and no others ?? it is just a question of curiosity

cheers again oh and also do CEN have any intension of posting vidz of when your guys start to race ??

hey there another question do the spur gears come greased in anyway from factory cause mine are a blackish colour and my mate that just got his 2 of the 3 screw that hold the spur gears in place to the gearbox side fell out and now his spur gears are all shiny silver ?? if so is there anything recomended to fix this problem ??

Cheers again

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RE: tuning and running - 12/9/2004 6:20:20 PM   
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Glad to hear that you have resoved the engine problem. We intend on releasing a few videos in the near future. We will keep everyone posted on this. Also, We do not grease the main spur gears. There are three screws that hold in each spur gear. If they fall out then this it would be a good idea to use lock-tite on them when re-installing them. Use Red. Lock-tite. They are put under alot of stress due to the amount of torque the engine puts out. Thanks for your question powerslave.

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