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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/4/2004 9:44 PM   
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    I used the stock generic Dave Brown/VirbaDamp/VonLinsowe mount.
    Started with a YS91 then after about 30 flights upgraded to the YS110.
    Now after more than a years time and about 6 gallons of fuel through both motors combined -same original mount & isolators, I can't identify any wear on the isolators yet. Expecting them to wear out quickly I did purchase some Dave Brown isolators and they look like they'll fit the original mount, but I haven't had to try them yet.
    The only problem I've had is screws loosening. But I've read posts of many people with many different types of mounts have screws work loose over time

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/4/2004 10:33 PM   
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    Status: offline     		Ok, I just found a pic of the Brown mount, I see now what you mean. I have to get something for this new YS 110 and this plane is looking pretty good.

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/4/2004 10:55 PM   
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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/4/2004 11:26 PM   
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    Status: offline     		Tommy, I'm sure you're right but I want to see the Infinity 90 and the Dream 110 before I decide. They will be ready for delivery any day now.
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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/4/2004 11:40 PM   
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    Status: offline     		One of our local hobby shops is a Fliton dealer and has an Infinity 90 coming
    in a few weeks. I'm curious about that one myself. It looks awesome but how
    it flys is the real question. It would have to be very good to be better than the
    Excelleron.

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/6/2004 6:35 AM   
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    Status: offline     		I have at least balanced the bird and run the Tiger Shark 90. On the stock muffler, did pretty well, I think, turning the APC 14 x 6 recommended at about 9500, not leaned down yet. Pulled pretty good.

    What was really neat was setting up the "UNIFLOW" tank three line system....very nice, can hardly wait to fly it... explanation here Uniflow

    As for balance, well the 8.2 all up weight permitted the battery to be just at the CG location of 7". No ballast anywhere. Also the throttle servo is up in the engine bay, and I'm using a Tru Turn 3" instead of 2.75, fwiw.

    Sure need some flyable weather now...........

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/6/2004 8:32 AM   
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    Status: offline     		I have an Excelleron 90 with a YS 110 4 stroke in it. It's a dream to fly. Made a couple of mods on it with the help of Troy N and Tony F: used push rods instead of cable, and changed hinges. Had to reinforce the landing gear. Have had no trouble with the engine mount at all.
    It's a beauty of a pattern plane.

    Terry

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/6/2004 8:27 PM   
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    Status: offline     		Price on the Fliton Infinity is $369.00 according to the hobby shop I emailed.

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/6/2004 8:50 PM   
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    Status: offline     		LHS here will sell them for $340.00
    Not bad if it flies as good as it looks.

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/6/2004 11:31 PM   
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    Status: offline     		Tommy S,
    Could you post the phone number For LHS. I might have to get one of those Fliton Infinity planes.
    Thanks
    Greg D

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/7/2004 3:46 AM   
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    Status: offline     		Kirk: The horse, bones - HOW IS THE HORSE??

    Bones: He's dead, Jim!

    Spock: It would seem logical, Captain, that we stop beating the horse,
    given it's current deceased state. It would also be redundant of me to
    mention the lack of relation between this particular deceased horse and
    building and flying the Excelleron 90, but my 1/2 human side forces me
    to state that fact.....

    Kirk: Kirk to Enterprise - three to beam up!


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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/7/2004 7:32 AM   
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    Status: offline     		Well, that was sure an entertaining way to convey a message!

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/7/2004 4:57 PM   
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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/8/2004 4:54 AM   
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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/8/2004 5:05 AM   
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    The Excelleron/YS-1.10 combo is awesome!

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/8/2004 6:19 AM   
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    Status: offline     		I agree about the Excelleron / YS 1.10 combo. Tom and I were just discussing the possible
    merits of an Infinity .90 compared to the Excelleron. Although the Infinity looks pretty , it
    would really surprise me if it flies better or even as good as the Excelleron. This airplane is
    capable of some extremely good scoring if flown by a good pilot , it sure flies better than I
    can fly it at the moment. Gonna take some serious practice before next season.

    I've tried a few advanced maneuvers just to see what it's capable of and it can do anything
    the pilot knows how to do. It has a very pretty break just before it enters a spin (either direction)
    and it snaps very sharply stopping instantly when the controls are neutralized. The roll rate can
    be as smooth or as fast as you want as the ailerons are very effective. The rudder authority
    is unbelievable , performs knife edge loops without even using full deflection !!
    This is the easiest airplane to land I have ever flown , just line it up with the runway and basically
    leave it alone until right before touchdown. If you have to stretch the landing it will float for a very
    long way without any wing tip dropping.

    They must be built pretty straight as mine is flying right now with no trim changes since the first
    flight , just the way it came off the building table. The only change I'm considering is maybe a
    3 or 4 blade prop but it's flying so good now I'll probably leave it alone.

    I'm pretty sure there are probably better airplanes out there but to say I'm happy with my
    Excelleron is an understatement , especially for what it costs. My only regret about this
    airplane is I didn't buy another one when Hobby People had them on sale for $199.95

    tommy s

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/8/2004 6:24 AM   
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    Status: offline     		That's a great report, tommy s. What CG are you using? What's the all up weight of yours RTF?

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/8/2004 6:25 AM   
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    Status: offline     		If anyone notices the Excelleron 90 go on sale agian please speak up.

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/8/2004 6:40 AM   
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    Status: offline     		Hey Bob,
    I have the CG on mine at the farthest back recommended setting which if my memory
    is working is 7 1/4" back from the leading edge of the wing measured at the fuselage
    sides. The ready to fly weight , minus fuel, is slightly under 8 lbs. (weighed on my grocers
    digital scale) that's as close as I can get.

    Hey Jeff,
    I've been keeping my eyes open for that too. It went on sale before the maiden flight on
    mine so I couldn't talk myself into buying another one until I saw how this one flew. I've
    been kicking myself ever since.

    tommy s

    P.S. on another note: Just picked up another YS 1.10 for my backup ship from Radio South.
    They had them in stock as of a couple of days ago.

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/8/2004 10:53 AM   
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    Status: offline     		You guys better be watching them really close.
    They put the Excelleron 50 size on sale last week for $179. I just looked to see & sure enough its back at the regular price already.
    Tommy I purchased another 50 size - I couldn't pass it up at $179.00
    Eddie

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/8/2004 2:37 PM   
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    Status: offline     		Thanks, Tommy... That's what I needed! Hopefully will fly mine sometime soon. It will be interesting to compare our observations.

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/8/2004 4:45 PM   
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    Status: offline     		Bob,
    Let me know how the .90 hauls it around. I'm finishing a new Widebody as a
    backup for next season but I'm thinking about getting another Excelleron and putting
    the new 1.10 in it and completing the Widebody with a MVVS .91 that I already have.

    Hey Eddie,
    How have you been , you keepin Nat in line ?
    You've seen both of them fly , how does the 50 size Excelleron compare to the 90 size ?
    What engine are you using ? I noticed the 50 uses a flat stab , can you tell any difference ?
    I've been thinking about a 50 for a practice ship but waiting and hoping they put the 90 back
    on sale.

    GDAVIS,
    Sorry for the late reply. The number for the Fliton dealer here is 281-265-8686 .
    He told me they were going to sell them for $340.00 but shipping from here to Oklahoma
    will kill you. I bought a plane from Russ Honea at Pattern Proz and it cost $40.00 to ship
    it to Houston.

    tommy s

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/8/2004 5:53 PM   
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    I haven't flown the Excelleron 50. I sold it to a flying buddy. I've seen him & his son fly it 3 times.
    He set it up with a Saito 72 and performance was good.
    It flew straight witih only a few clicks of trim and lands easy as the 90 size.
    His AUW is 5pounds & 14 ounces.

    I intended to set it up with the Irvine 53 and may still do that. I just picked up another one while Hobby People had them on sale for $179. I beleiver it will fly good enough to pull out as a backup at a contest.

    RE your note about 4 blade props for the 91, Nat's been running them for quite a while. I'll get the size info for you. I do know some of them he re-pitched, but I don't remember the size or pitch of his 4bladers.
    Eddie

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/8/2004 7:00 PM   
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    Status: offline     		Eddie,
    Nat probably does his own prop repitching. I'd like to know how that is done.
    See if he'll let us in on his secrets.

    tommy s

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    RE: Excelleron 90 - 12/8/2004 7:29 PM   
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    Yes he does AND he has already shown me how he does it.
    All we need is a Prather Pitch Gauge and a copy of his "custom" jig for doing the repitching. I've heard of people just twisting them with pliers between their knees. You know Nat's gonna be more precise than that
    I'll get you a pcture of it sometime.
    Eddie

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