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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/8/2010 2:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		An easy and cheap fix is lowering the chassis.....this can be done by purchasing some fuel line from your local LHS and taking all the shocks apart.
Install a piece (1/8-1/2") onto the shock shaft to limit the travel and re-install. I've done it mine and it makes a world of difference in handling/tipping over.

And you think its fast with 7 cell NIHM's...try a 3S lipo. With a GPS attached and a 25T pinion, I got about 93 km/hr out of it ( about 57 mph)

EDIT: Sorry I didnt see you DIDNT want to lower the truck.....mine is still capable off road, obviously not as much clearance but I run mine a lot on pavement.
You're going to have to decide where you wanna go.



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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/8/2010 3:04 AM   
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An easy and cheap fix is lowering the chassis.....this can be done by purchasing some fuel line from your local LHS and taking all the shocks apart.
Install a piece (1/8-1/2'') onto the shock shaft to limit the travel and re-install. I've done it mine and it makes a world of difference in handling/tipping over.

And you think its fast with 7 cell NIHM's...try a 3S lipo. With a GPS attached and a 25T pinion, I got about 93 km/hr out of it ( about 57 mph)



Make sure you only suggest that to those with the VXL version

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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/8/2010 6:02 AM   
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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/8/2010 7:21 AM   
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An easy and cheap fix is lowering the chassis.....this can be done by purchasing some fuel line from your local LHS and taking all the shocks apart.
Install a piece (1/8-1/2'') onto the shock shaft to limit the travel and re-install. I've done it mine and it makes a world of difference in handling/tipping over.

And you think its fast with 7 cell NIHM's...try a 3S lipo. With a GPS attached and a 25T pinion, I got about 93 km/hr out of it ( about 57 mph)



Make sure you only suggest that to those with the VXL version


Um yea, I was replying to Daze regarding his VXL....do you think I would recommend a 3S lipo for a XL5?






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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/8/2010 5:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry, I didn't realize you were replying to Daze.
Although, It would be a good idea to mention brushless when speaking of 3s lipo in this thread where there are alot of guys still running brushed motors.

Do any of you guys know a good cheap brushless esc and motor combo from hobbycity.com for the Stampede? If I go brushless, I have to do two of them. One for my son and myself.

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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/8/2010 6:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Found a cheap new bright shell in a charity shop so stripped the shell off and installed on the pede its a hard shell so should save a few parts for a while in barrel rolls lmao

Might repaint or just bash the hell outta it

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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/9/2010 12:51 AM   
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There is a company that will make custom fiberglass bodies for your rc car or truck. though, they are very expensive.

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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/9/2010 10:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey guys, I have a question.

I am running an older stampede, with the black tranny. I had one before, and I ran it a lot with a 16t motor geared 13/87 with just an aluminum idler gear in the transmission. I have just picked up another stampede with the black tranny, and as far as i know it is a stock tranny. My question is, what has to be done to handle a good brushless system in the older stampedes? Will just an aluminum idler gear handle the extra power, or does it need other parts? Im not sure if im going brushless, or how soon if i do, but id like to know what all upgrades it needs to handle the extra power reliably. Also, im assuming the driveshafts are the same on all of them, or are they beefier on the newer trucks? Thanks

Edit: I just ordered a steel idler gear off of ebay. For less than $5 shipped i figured why not go ahead and get it. The top gear is steel from the factory, so it looks like the steel ring gear on the planetary housing is all that i have left as a weak link. I never broke it on my old pede, so ill run my plastic one either until it dies, or until I buy a brushless setup for my stampede

Also, I noticed on my old stampede that it was noisy after a while with the aluminum idler gear.... probably because i ran the steel top gear with it which is not reccomended


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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/9/2010 1:42 PM   
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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/9/2010 6:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Biggest spur gear is 90T.

I know we can use Robinson pinions, but I don't know if they make spurs for the Stampede.

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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/10/2010 12:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have a 6400mah 11.1v 3s lipo battery and it fits in my stampede, it came with a traxxas connector on it. I ran the stock gearing and my motor started to smoke. I let it cool and put a nimh 7 cell 3000mah battery and it went faster than the lipo and it didn't smoke. When I put a 26 tooth pinion on it started to smoke and went pretty slow. I bought the lipo for longer run times and faster speeds than the nimh and the nimh performed better. What should I do to make the lipo perform how it is supposed to?
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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/10/2010 1:24 AM   
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I have a 6400mah 11.1v 3s lipo battery and it fits in my stampede, it came with a traxxas connector on it. I ran the stock gearing and my motor started to smoke. I let it cool and put a nimh 7 cell 3000mah battery and it went faster than the lipo and it didn't smoke. When I put a 26 tooth pinion on it started to smoke and went pretty slow. I bought the lipo for longer run times and faster speeds than the nimh and the nimh performed better. What should I do to make the lipo perform how it is supposed to?
Thanks,
Jaret


Wow, where to start?

You can't use a 3S LiPo with the stock motor, or you're going to smoke it. Period. You might smoke the ESC too. Either trade that battery pack or save it for something else. That pack would be PERFECT to get the most out of a brushless motor system.

Stick with the 7c NiMH pack for now. That is appropriate for your brushed motor.

26T pinion is WAY too high for a Stampede. Stock pinion is I think 18T. The fast street pinion is 23T. 26T is overgearing it by quite a bit. Smoking the motor is to be expected. Go to traxxas.com and find the gearing chart for the Stampede XL-5. Read all the fine print. The 23T pinion is only for street use. Use it offroad and you'll smoke the motor.

Speaking of which, you may have already damaged the motor. You should plan on getting another one pretty soon.

What you could do is take advantage of Traxxas' power up promotion. Send in your XL-5 ESC and Titan 12T motor along with $135 and they'll send you the Velineon brushless system. Then, you can use the LiPo. But also make sure you buy another pinion with lower tooth count to start. Maybe in the 13 - 15T range. It'd be a shame to smoke the Velineon motor too... Go to Traxxas.com for details on the power up promotion.

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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/10/2010 1:26 AM   
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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/10/2010 3:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just to let everyone know, you can get a Velineon brushless system for around $135 on ebay and you don't have to send in your old system. If it is in good shape it will bring a few bucks.

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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/10/2010 8:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have a 6400mah 11.1v 3s lipo battery and it fits in my stampede VXL, it came with a traxxas connector on it. I ran the stock gearing and my motor started to smoke. I let it cool and put a nimh 7 cell 3000mah battery and it went faster than the lipo and it didn't smoke. When I put a 26 tooth pinion on it started to smoke and went pretty slow. I bought the lipo for longer run times and faster speeds than the nimh and the nimh performed better. What should I do to make the lipo perform how it is supposed to?
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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/10/2010 8:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		What charger are you using for the lipo?
It is possible that either the lipo is not charging up all the way, or there is a possibility that you have damaged the brushless motor.
Another idea would be to try gearing it down some.
The bottom line is, if you had smoke coming from the motor, there is definitely some damage already done.

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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/10/2010 9:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I use the thunder ac6 to charge my lipo. What should I gear it at if I should gear it lower? I don't think there is damage because when I emailed traxxas my problem they said my motor was fine.

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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/10/2010 7:04 PM   
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WHen gearing down, just drop one or two teeth at a time. Found out how many teeth you have on your pinion and go buy one with less teeth, or check your spur and maybe go up one tooth.

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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/11/2010 3:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Today i ran it and it was going about 55+ mph and it wasn't smoking, but then I hit the curb and shattered the caster block. What are some ways to lower the engine temp.

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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/11/2010 3:54 AM   
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Anyway, wanted to thank you all for the suggestions, I ordered some big bore shocks (think that is what they were called), so I think I may take the stock shocks, and modify them with a piece of fuel line and use those for playing out on the street in front of the house...  Also, I will move the tie rods in on the steering servo, just haven' t gotten to it yet, but both very good suggestions...  even though, with experience, i am flipping the truck a whole lot less, I have been getting much better with the turns...

I have the stock pinion gear in the truck (VXL), and I was wondering if I could run a Lipo without changing the gear.. from what I can tell, the optional gear they give you with the truck is really only for street driving, and I don't want to limit myself to on street driving.... but I would like the additional run time and maybe a little more speed out of a lipo...

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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/11/2010 5:03 AM   
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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/11/2010 6:56 AM   
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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/12/2010 1:04 AM   
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I just bought a 17 turn(double?) reedy radon 30k rpm motor for my stampede. I geared it 12/87 because the LHS didnt have a 13 or 14t pinion. It is great out of the hole. Has plenty of pep, and run times seem good and the motor seems to stay cool. However, top speed probably is old around 20mph if i had to guess.

I wouldnt mind bumping it up some IF it wont hurt my low end performance or heat the motor up too much. What are you guys with 16/17/19t brushed motors running for gearing? I was thinking 14/87 or 14/84 might be a real good setup that would get me 4 or 5 more mph on the top side. I have a 16t pinion. I may try 16/87 just to see how it does, but id rather be slightly undergeared than overgeared. Any suggestions? Thanks

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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/12/2010 2:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		16/87 will be fine, even for offroad. I think that is stock gearing with the Titan 12T. It might be 16/90 though.

Just to be safe, check the motor temp after a couple of runs and every so often until you're 100% sure.

Even if it gets hot, you'll catch it before any damage is done.

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RE: OFFICAL PEDE THREAD - 1/12/2010 3:04 AM   
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