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RE: Pay it forward (Was freebie and fee engine) - 2/8/2006 4:27:30 PM   
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Just been busy. I'm hoping to get back to the write up this afternoon. I actually get to work out of the house today, so as soon as I can get some other stuff wrapped up I can get to work on the build thread.

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RE: Pay it forward (Was freebie and fee engine) - 2/10/2006 9:18:12 AM   
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Hey guys, this thing you're doing sounds great. If I wasn't a poor college student and actually had stuff lying around, this would be the first place I'd go.

This is more of a request, because I could seriously use some information/advice.


I'm an ARO (aerospace engineering) majoring freshman at Cal Poly Pomona and on a whim decided to join a Design-Build-Fly club at my school where we :ahem: design, then build, and then fly a plane in a competition hosted by the AAIA. Since it turned out that I had the most experience with electric motors (from my experience with ground-hugging vehicles) the whole matter of propulsion for our plane has dropped into my lap. This includes what electric motor to use, which batteries and yes, prop choice.

This year's competition requires a huge, heavy plane to be powered by a max of 3lbs of batteries and by a motor that is limited by a 40amp fuse. :O

The most difficult mission we're going to fly requires us to load two 4.4lb water bottles, fly around a short 2000ft course, land, load another water bottle, fly a lap. land, load another bottle and so on to 5 water bottles for max points. That’s 22 lbs of water. We figure our design (a high-wing dual boom looking thing, looks exactly like the plane from Flight of the Phoenix) is going to weight about 8 lbs. Add water to that and you get 30lbs max. The design currently has a 9.5 ft wingspan.

We can't use LiPoly's either.

I'm seriously not sure what motor, batteries or prop i should go with. Since were not caring at all about speed, I guess a huge propeller would be good, The fuselage’s diameter is going to be about a foot n a half. With landing gear figured in, we should have clearance for one monster of a prop.

With something that large, using an electric motor would probably require gear reduction? Maybe? Is it possible to create about 7lbs of thrust (what the seniors say we'll need) with a 40 amp limit and around a 26 volt limit? (I get 26 volts from being limited to 3lbs of batteries, which means a max of 24-26 Sc cells).

I'm sorry I don't have an actual straight foreword question, I'm just digging for any information. Any ideas and or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Basically, I'm looking for somewhere to start at, to start experimenting with.


Thanks a lot!

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RE: Pay it forward (Was freebie and fee engine) - 2/12/2006 1:05:46 AM   
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I think you might have have better luck posting this in the electrics forum. It sounds to me like your question is how to provide enough power to fly this thing using an electric motor with the limitations you stated. The guys that are heavy into electrics will know better how to create the kind of thust to weight ratio you're looking for. Good luck with your project.

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RE: Pay it forward (Was freebie and fee engine) - 3/1/2006 3:05:47 AM   
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Bump!! Any arrival date of the new Lt 40 to Seebee & the girls yet?

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RE: Pay it forward (Was freebie and fee engine) - 3/1/2006 3:28:08 AM   
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I'm still thinking on how I'm going to pack it up and ship it to him. I'm working on getting that worked out. Hopefully you've noticed that I'm back to writing up the build thread on that project.

I'll keep you posted

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RE: Pay it forward (Was freebie and fee engine) - 3/1/2006 6:18:40 AM   
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Sounds like a plan. I kmow you're busy. Keep me posted on that other thing too ok? Thanks Ken.

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RE: Pay it forward (Was freebie and fee engine) - 3/1/2006 6:27:19 AM   
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Mark,
You bet. I've been a bit slowed down for the last 2 days. I've had a "twinge" in my back (was bending down to pick up a pencil ) and between that and the pain meds I haven't got too much done really. I'll let you know as soon as the other thing is on it's way out of here.

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RE: Pay it forward (Was freebie and fee engine) - 3/1/2006 6:37:16 AM   
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No problem, I know all about the meds, been in slow-mow myself for awhile now.

By the way, don't you ever sleep? Do you know what time it is in OK right now? GO TO BED!!

Get some sleep.

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RE: Pay it forward (Was freebie and fee engine) - 3/1/2006 6:41:06 AM   
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Sleep?? What the heck is that??? Actually, I've got a Thermacare heat wrap on my back, and because of the heat I had trouble getting to sleep. So I decided to get up and get some work done instead of laying in bed sweating!!

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RE: Pay it forward (Was freebie and fee engine) - 3/1/2006 6:56:49 AM   
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Take two vicodine & call me in the morning.

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RE: Pay it forward (Was freebie and fee engine) - 3/1/2006 7:06:25 AM   
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Take two vicodine & call me in the morning.




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RE: Pay it forward (Was freebie and fee engine) - 4/22/2006 4:31:38 AM   
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I don't know if anyone here knows me all too well since I'm in the car forums more than the airplane forums (hey, I'm still a avid airplane guy), but what happened to this program? It seems like people gave and recieved and they all disappeared. I haven't visited this thread in a while, and noticed its not a Sticky at the top of the forum anymore; why is that? Also, http://www.rc-pif.com cannot be opened because it no longer exists on the hosting server.

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RE: Pay it forward (Was freebie and fee engine) - 4/22/2006 4:47:54 AM   
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I was able to open www.rc-pif.com with no problems. But yes, you are right in the fact that this has slacked up a bit. Thinks have been a bit crazy for Bill (Bubbagates) in the past few months. But I reckon as the flying season gets back into full swing we'll see the PIF pick back up.

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RE: Pay it forward (Was freebie and fee engine) - 4/22/2006 4:58:12 AM   
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Hmm...well, I tried http://www.rc-pif.com/ in Mozilla Firefox, Netscape 8.0, Internet Explorer, and Opera, but none of them could find the site. I also checked my Internet connection, and it seems to be working with no problems.

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RE: Pay it forward (Was freebie and fee engine) - 4/22/2006 11:38:47 AM   
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works for me

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