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Hi to everyone, I'm new to this forum, usually post on 1/2A site. Does anyone out there have a plan for the Keil Kraft Phantom that I could get a look at? I last built one about 45 years ago, and would like to build another one now. I've read that they're still used in a team race class in U.K. and a few other parts of the world, but as far as I know the kits are no longer available. If some kind soul could PM a drawing I could scale up or something, I'd be very grateful. Neither photo is of my plane, I came across 'em on the web.
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Hi Telmore, thanks for your help and what a great site for plans, but I couldn't find a Phantom. I'd call that number but international calls cost lots of money, do you know if theres an email address?
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Couldn't get that link to work, maybe I'll draw a plan from memory and those couple of pics I found. Whatever happened to Keil Kraft anyway? They were pretty big in the kit business. Perhaps I'll build another Nobler, got a plan for one of those.
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I don't really like posting links to other forums as it seems rude but this is a UK based one and you'll have better luck with a plan - I know Phil looks there:
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Telmore, I followed your suggestion and got through to Phil O.K. Sorry I didn't message you yesterday, but I've been busy with other stuff. He can supply the plan, it never ceases to amaze me how aeromodellers from all over the world co-operate with each other. I'll post some flight pics when I get hold of the plan and get this little gem built. I've been back to your site again, I gotta spend more time building control line planes. Thank you very much for taking the time to help.
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WOW That takes me back ........... My first ever model was the Phantom Mite, followed (after getting a bigger engine) by the Phantom. Unfortunately at the tender age of about 8 at the time I never did manage to fly them LOL ........ first flight was the KK Scepter (all too big I`m afraid with flaps and all that), however I did manage a full circle before I needed the plastic bag :-)
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I've seen photos in Aeromodeller of a free flight Phantom made of 1/32 sheet and CO2 powered. Said to fly well. I understand that Phantom racing with 1.5 cc plain bearing diesels on 35 ft lines is fairly popular. Again, a couple of how-to articles in Aeromodeller.
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Hi Norman and Jim, yeah its amazing how some designs are timeless, I think the Phantom came out in the early fifties and more than 50 years later is still sought after and as you say, even used for a team racing class. I see Nexus have a 36" r/c version plan available as well. I guess all this means that the original design was a goodun. My first Phantom was built in the early sixties, and I think every kid in my street few it from time to time. It was fairly crash proof as well as easy to fly.
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I have the Phantom Plans drawn up in AutoCAD 2000, I can save then in either PDF or TIF or whatever you want? Let me know and I will email them to you.
I have two of these 90% built - I just have to finish cover and paint them! PAW 1.5 as power.
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Hi, as you can see I've been chopping balsa, my thanks to NZ Scythe and Phil Hansson in the UK for helping out with plans. I've only got to make a fuel tank and fit a canopy for "Biggles" and I can have some fun. For an all sheet trainer, I was amazed how long it took to put this thing together. I've built multi channel r/c planes in less time. Maybe I'm a bit of of a perfectionist these days, and theres lots of sanding involved. I'll post some in flight pics when the big day arrives.
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