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Dave Brown wins re-election - 11/24/2004 9:21:45 PM

WingShot

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Official results: www.modelaircraft.org

No big surprise that Dave Brown won re-election considering that 70% of the membership is over 41, I guess.

Josh

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RE: Dave Brown wins re-election - 11/24/2004 9:27:43 PM

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RE: Dave Brown wins re-election - 11/24/2004 10:25:59 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: WingShot

Official results: www.modelaircraft.org

No big surprise that Dave Brown won re-election considering that 70% of the membership is over 41, I guess.

Josh

Too bad that the 70% aren't over 60. Then DM would have won. All the younger children just don't have the wisdom of whom or how to vote.

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RE: Dave Brown wins re-election - 11/24/2004 10:45:08 PM

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That is, indeed, bad news. I was so hoping that Dave Mathewson would be the next president. Looks like we get more of the same old ****.

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RE: Dave Brown wins re-election - 11/24/2004 10:45:30 PM

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Well I FOR ONE SAY AFTER THIS YEARS MEMBERSHIP RUNS OUT I'M DONE WITH MISTER DAVE BROWNS AMA. MADE THE MISTAKE OF RENEWING IT LAST YEAR FOR 2 YEARS.I know i'm going to get bashed here for it saying this but its how i feel about this.

pRoP- WaSh

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RE: Dave Brown wins re-election - 11/24/2004 11:26:51 PM

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I have still not figured out what age has to do with it. The main idea is to vote if you don't, don't complain! Looks like people like what they have rather than what they could have. What air port was that they are planning to buy.

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RE: Dave Brown wins re-election - 11/25/2004 12:06:35 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: PROP-WASH

Well I FOR ONE SAY AFTER THIS YEARS MEMBERSHIP RUNS OUT I'M DONE WITH MISTER DAVE BROWNS AMA. MADE THE MISTAKE OF RENEWING IT LAST YEAR FOR 2 YEARS.I know i'm going to get bashed here for it saying this but its how i feel about this.

pRoP- WaSh

Hang in with us. If you are not a member you can't help us vote him out. Look at the bright side, we blew away two useless EC members (or their appointed replacements).

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RE: Dave Brown wins re-election - 11/25/2004 12:13:32 AM

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Hang in with us. If you are not a member you can't help us vote him out. Look at the bright side, we blew away two useless EC members (or their appointed replacements).

Still, the Stillman victory wasn't exactly devastating. It shows the power of the incumbent! As DB shows.

Heck, now that things are on a even keel here in D-5 and we can work at rebuilding it, I'll have time to become DB worst nightmare. Right?

--Bill Harris

"Dave Brown, step down"

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RE: Dave Brown wins re-election - 11/25/2004 1:05:13 AM

Red Scholefield

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Here are some numbers to chew over:

2001 AMA Election Results
President
Dave Brown 16,339 58%
Rich Hanson 4,710
Frank Tiano 6,739
Total 27,842

District I
Don Kraft 1,231

District V
Jim McNeill 2065 42.5%
Manny Sousa 804
Ton Stillman 1985
Total 4854

District IX
Russ Miller 673
P M McGuigan 568
Total 1241

2004 results

President:
Dave Brown 15,090 57.9%
Dave Mathewson 7,925
Bill Oberdieck 3,066
Total 26,081 7% fewer votes than 2001

Dist 1 VP
Andy Argenio 890 54%
Don Krafft 748
Total 1638 33% more voted than in 2001 (no race in 2001)

Dist 5 VP
Tony Stillman 2,038 48%
Judi Dunlap 1,275
Manny Sousa 898
Total 4,211 13% few votes than 2001

Dist 9 VP
Mark Smith 866 30% fewer votes than 2001 where there was a race.

Total number of members voting for president in 2002 vs 2004 roughly the same, 17%

Red S.

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RE: Dave Brown wins re-election - 11/25/2004 5:39:25 AM

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What we need is a split off of the AMA.

Seriously, one for modeling and such stuff...

and one for FLYING.

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RE: Dave Brown wins re-election - 11/25/2004 9:29:58 AM

dragoonpvw

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ORIGINAL: Bob101

What we need is a split off of the AMA.

Seriously, one for modeling and such stuff...

and one for FLYING.

And which one would you be???
Unfortunately I would have to join both, I think I will stick with one thanks..
I am lucky, I voted Tony And Dave B, Things are going my way at last. Now
where are those lottery tickets?

good luck
Paul

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RE: Dave Brown wins re-election - 11/25/2004 9:59:22 AM

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Here are some numbers to chew over:

2001 AMA Election Results

Interesting. With all out campaigning, TS got only 53 more votes this time. And MS was still in the "800's". And DB was in the same magnitude. I suppose, then, that folks vote pretty much the same way each time. Those who bother to vote, that is...

--Bill

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RE: Dave Brown wins re-election - 11/25/2004 12:52:32 PM

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Yeah Dave Brown WON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To many sour grapes here. Take your ball and go somewhere else is always an option if you dont like the winner, for those of you with that mindset. Now that reality is here and voted on, you should work with the NEWLY ELECTED AMA LEADERSHIP to improve the AMA. Not sit back and whine because it didn't go your way. Onward and upward as they say. Your part of the problem, or part of the cure, its that simple.

Vince

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RE: Dave Brown wins re-election - 11/25/2004 1:52:01 PM

Hossfly

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ORIGINAL: vpresley

Yeah Dave Brown WON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To many sour grapes here. Take your ball and go somewhere else is always an option if you dont like the winner, for those of you with that mindset. Now that reality is here and voted on, you should work with the NEWLY ELECTED AMA LEADERSHIP to improve the AMA. Not sit back and whine because it didn't go your way. Onward and upward as they say. Your part of the problem, or part of the cure, its that simple.

Vince

Reading your post, Vince, I know that you are correct in your statements. I am very happy with all the newly elected DVPs and looking forward to their tenure in office.
Personally I am far too prone to the too-many-sour-grapes attitude however I don't want to be like the democrats now, as I watch the liberals make all their excuses and try to tell the conservatives what they *have* to do.

So hopefully I can adjust to be more like you advise as it seems a proper course of action.

However, Vince, I need more help and advice. Could you please explain to me just HOW can someone work WITH Dave Brown to IMPROVE the AMA? I fail to see how he has any desire to improve AMA. His tenure has only resulted in a steady loss of membership, no education for the new generations of model fliers to present AMA as more than an insurance company, and constant upheavals in AMA operations as he fights for getting his own way which I perceive to ultimately be the future CEO of a large captive insurance company that owns AMA vice the other way.

Mr. Brown is very able to maintain a following of some 15-16000 groupies having absolutely no mind of their own, which retains his power base. That's definitely a "good" for him. How he does it is a mystery to me, yet even the most vile dictators in history maintained a loyal cadre around themselves. Sheep do follow their perception of a leader.

Therefore I ask you, Vince, just what one can do to work WITH Mr. Brown for the GOOD of AMA since I see no parallel between the *GOOD* of AMA and Mr. Brown. You will explain this, will you not?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

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