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Who ACTUALLY has a esky Honeybee 2 3d - 11/26/2004 4:41:34 AM   
magicmalik19


 

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Status: offline 		Hi, I am interested in buying a micro heli. I fly a Kyosho Nexus .30 nitro heli pretty well and I have been flying rc airplanes for a few years. I bought a used aerohawk from a friend for 30 bucks but the 3 in 1 reciever unit is fried so I never got to try it. I saw that the 3 in 1 units are around 65-70 bucks, so im deciding to just buy a new heli that hasnt been crashed. Im down to 2 choices, the Honey Bee 2 3D 6 channel or the Dragon Fly 22d 4 channel heli. Im more interested in the Honey Bee 2 3D because it doesn't have a tail motor and I hear that tail motors burn up every few flights. I guess the collective pitch would be cool as well but honestly I never use collective pitch, even on my nitro nexus. I know my radio mixes the throttle with the pitch automatically so thats why I never bother with changing the collective pitch in flight, I dont even know why you would want to honestly (keep in mind that I learned how to fly Heli's on my own so I was never taught why I would just want to use throttle hold and mess with the collective pitch. If anyone wants to tell me why using collective pitch is good, I would be interested in learning what it can do for my flight). So, because I never really touch collective pitch and just let the radio mixer do it for me, I think that if I did decide to get the Dragon Fly the fixed pitch wouldnt bother me. So with that in mind, what is the better machine? Does anyone here ACTUALLY own the honey bee 2 and does it fly well? I really like the fact that it has no tail motor. And, who has the Dragon Fly 22d? Does that fly well? What about the tail motor?
I also read that the Dragon Fly 22d will have a collective pitch upgrade soon, so I would probably go with the Dragon Fly 22d now since it can be upgraded to 6 channel heli (even tho I said i dont use collective pitch, its still cool knowing its there!!..lol). The only thing scareing me about the dragon fly is the tail motor. PLEASE HELP.
One last thing, sorry to bother you guys. I have downloaded some videos of the aerohawk flying and some other micro heli's. One thing i noticed is that in every video, they take the heli off.. hover it and then land it. Sometimes the heli drifts off forward and then lands but I have never seen them FLY the heli. I havent seen them fly foward at speed and make a turn and then spin and stuff like that. Someone told me thats cuz micro heli's are so unstable u cant fly them. They are good for hovering and thats it. Is this true? How are the flight characteristics of the Honey Bee 2 and the Dragon Fly? Thanks alot guys.
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RE: Who ACTUALLY has a esky Honeybee 2 3d - 11/26/2004 4:53:57 AM   
magicmalik19


 

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Status: offline 		WOW... i feel like an idiot. Sorry guys, i mixed everything up. The honey bee 2 3D has the tail motor, not the Dragon Fly 22d. I meant to say this: I want the Honey Bee cuz its 6 channels.. but the tail motor is scaring me on that one. I like the fact that it is 6 channels and has collective pitch. Even though i dont use collective pitch, its still cool knowing its there. I also like the Dragon fly 22d cuz it doesnt have a tail motor and there will soon be a collective pitch upgrade for it, making it 6 channels and shaft driven tail (there for, it should be just like the Honey bee except with no tail motor). So im stuck on which one to buy. Any advice? Does anyone here actually have and fly either of the heli's? Do you like it? The dragon fly is 22d is cheaper and has no tail motor so I think thats a plus. However, i just like the fact that the Honey Bee is 6 channels (I guess i like the idea that more is better). As I said previously.. my comment about the videos, do these micro's actually fly? Are they just for hovering? If you were in my shoes, which heli would u get? Am I making too big a deal of the tail motor burn outs? Thanks alot guys.

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RE: Who ACTUALLY has a esky Honeybee 2 3d - 11/26/2004 7:16:21 PM   
tnd2000


 

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Status: offline 		I was debating between the 2 birds myself. In the end I went with Honeybee 2 because I found a few places that carry spare parts for Honeybee but none so far for dragonfly 22d.

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RE: Who ACTUALLY has a esky Honeybee 2 3d - 11/26/2004 9:05:59 PM   
magicmalik19


 

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Status: offline 		Thanks for the information man. How is the honeybee 2's performance? Does it fly well and can it actually fly like a full size rc heli, or is it just for like hovering? Also, has the tail motor burnt out or given you problems? Thanks

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RE: Who ACTUALLY has a esky Honeybee 2 3d - 11/27/2004 10:45:57 PM   
SteveVag


 

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Status: offline 		My understanding is that the throttle and collective are linked so that when you increase one you automatically increase the other. This allows for faster rotor speed at low altitude hovers, which makes the CP heli more managable than a FP one in hovering at low power. CP helis are supposed to be much more responsive than FP ones to power changes, as they don't have to change the rotor speed like FP ones to increase or decrease power. They just change the pitch of all the blades.

I'm looking at the eSky CP 3D with 6ch tx myself, but I'm not sure about the level of quality of these brands. Where did you buy it from, TDD2000? Magic, where are you considering buying it?

Steve V.

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RE: Who ACTUALLY has a esky Honeybee 2 3d - 11/28/2004 6:42:11 AM   
magicmalik19


 

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Status: offline 		Im considering getting it from hobbyjapan2000.com They offer it for 200 plus 35 bucks for shipping. I hope this heli is good.. i love flying my nexus .30 nitro heli. I taught myself how to fly on it after learning how to fly planes. Since im in college now, and im also a body builder.. my time is very limited so I was hoping when i just wanted to have some fun with this hobby, instead of pulling out a big .30 size heli, gas, and starter equipment.. i'd just charge up a battery and go.

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RE: Who ACTUALLY has a esky Honeybee 2 3d - 11/28/2004 6:15:56 PM   
SteveVag


 

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Status: offline 		I've been looking at a similar offer for a CP 3D micro with 6ch tx at an eBay store called RC-WORLD-INTERNATIONAL. They've also got a website here: www.rcworld.us/RCWORLD.html Their customer feedback is pretty good with no negatives, and they're located in the US and sell parts, so I wouldn''t have to pay high shipping costs for repair parts later. It's a bit more expensive here, $250 plus $20 S&H, but it might be easier to deal with a US company if I have problems with the unit I get. By the way, with so many clones out there it's very possible these two similar offers are for machines of different quality, there's no way of knowing which might be better made.

Good luck with your purchase and please let us know how whatever microheli you buy works out. The only proof is in the flying!

Steve V.

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RE: Who ACTUALLY has a esky Honeybee 2 3d - 11/28/2004 7:26:34 PM   
the bandit


 

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Status: offline 		Hi there

I recently bought the honeybee 2 from ebay it cost me £130 uk pounds work out the exchange rate might be cheaper this way as i found, i am totally new to flying as i have many cars and trucks, so thought i df try flying and i gotto to say how much fun these little birds are.

I ve used it 4 or 5 times and the tail motor has fried so if anyone can advise me of a better tail motor than the standard one that would be of help plus any other tips i just about have got it hovering as the cable ireceived with it does not fit anywhere on my pc to practice on!

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RE: Who ACTUALLY has a esky Honeybee 2 3d - 11/29/2004 12:30:31 AM   
SteveVag


 

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Status: offline 		Hi Hyperpbs,

I'm curious as to what kind of battery you got with your heli, and what voltage it is. If it's an 11.1V LiPo maybe that's why the tail rotor motor didn't last very long. That high a voltage is tough on brush motors, and is more suitable for brushless type motors. Whatever motor you get to replace the burnt out one should be one that can handle the voltage of your battery.

What do you think of the overall quality of your collective pitch heli and 6ch transmitter? I'm skeptical about the package because a CP heli and 6ch heli radio would normally cost $500 minimum and most likely more.

Steve V.

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RE: Who ACTUALLY has a esky Honeybee 2 3d - 11/29/2004 12:46:43 AM   
SteveVag


 

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Status: offline 		Hi Again Magicmalik,

On the videos only showing micros hovering and moving very slowly, I've noticed that too. My guess is that you can't fly a microheli inside a house in anything but a hover. There's not enough space. It's too dangerous. I suspect that hovering is what micros do best, and foward flight is not their strong point. This may be true for most Fixed Pitch helis as well. That's why I'm interested in the Honey Bee 2, as it's a CP heli with the price of a FP one.

Steve

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RE: Who ACTUALLY has a esky Honeybee 2 3d - 11/29/2004 7:39:48 PM   
the bandit


 

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Status: offline 		Hi stevevag

Check out ebay they are on there for the same price , but i have seen them retailed here in uk for as much as £250.00 , it came with a li po battery, the controller has a 3d button on it and when i engaged 3d button the heli went wild ! doh i realised the throttle has to be centered plus i can still only get it to hover a bit in my living room. Any one have advice on how i can get to use the pc cable supplied to work the connectors dont fit anywhere!

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RE: Who ACTUALLY has a esky Honeybee 2 3d - 11/29/2004 11:11:42 PM   
SteveVag


 

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Status: offline 		Don't have any money to spend at the moment, Hyperpbs, as I just ordered a Hirobo XRB SR rc heli from Heliproz. It's the new tetherless rc version at: www.heliproz.com/xrbRC.html I have no place to fly the Honey Bee until the summer comes anyway, with its dead calms at almost every early morning and evening twilight. Indoor flying would be too dangerous at my house. The XRB uses foam rotor blades and is very stable so indoor flying in my living room will be safe enough to do without risking damage to furniture. Also, it's supposed to be safe enough to use around kids, and even stable enough for young novice pilots to try out, with supervision. It's not cheap, at $309, but crash repairs are usually limited to replacing broken rotor blades at $1 a set. Crash a typical microheli and it's probably $25 minimum if the blades break.

But please let us know how your tail rotor motor issue and hovering efforts turn out, and whether or not you get everything working the way you want it to. I'll report on my XRB when I get it flying.

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RE: Who ACTUALLY has a esky Honeybee 2 3d - 11/29/2004 11:17:36 PM   
quaker1


 

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Status: offline 		Its a shame they didnt make the Honeybee2 shaft driven tail. Ive gone with the hornet which is collective pitch and shaft driven tail, even in standard form its a good flier. Plus there are lots of parts and upgrades available.

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RE: Who ACTUALLY has a esky Honeybee 2 3d - 11/29/2004 11:27:29 PM   
SteveVag