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RE: Reaction 54 Jet Kit - 12/19/2004 12:19:25 AM   
John Redman


 

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Status: offline 		I think 54 ounces would be tight. If you carried an overflow tank and took off full, then you might be able to do a 6 - 6.5 minute flight with enough fuel for one go around.

54 ounces though would be about the right amount for the new P-60.

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RE: Reaction 54 Jet Kit - 12/19/2004 4:18:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		John, I'm not sure the mounts for the P-60 and P-70 would do the trick. Better send the turbines along with them...

I kid! It would be awesome to actually get the mounts in my hands so I can draw up brackets for each. Thank you for the help!

And thank you Kraivuth S. for taking a fresh look at the PST mount. The bracket I have for the PST will work, but it's not the most attractive accessory in the world. It's big and a little wider than the fuselage in that area.

Hi Charlie, thanks for the testimonial! You too, Molar Mender, I appreciate it. As a west coast guy, I haven't made it to the "big" shows in the East, so the model hasn't had much exposure. That should change this Summer.

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RE: Reaction 54 Jet Kit - 12/19/2004 7:40:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		I received my kit friday. WOW 24" root cord. Like the other BTE kits it looks like an easy build. A 2 view in the instruction book to plan color schemes. Nice touch. Thanks Bruce!

John

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RE: Reaction 54 Jet Kit - 12/22/2004 11:31:31 PM   
Ron Stahl


 

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Status: offline 		I got mine today and just had time to look it over. What a nice package to get as a Xmas present from my family! I am off all next week and should have it well on the way to being done unless I am distracted with honeydo's. I on first impressions would say that the level of quality is what I have gotten when I build BVM kits. Great clear plans and a well written instruction book and all of the hardware. Pictures to follow as I build it up. Thanks Bruce

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RE: Reaction 54 Jet Kit - 12/26/2004 7:07:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Guy's,

I got my kit a little over a week ago and to be honest with everyone, if you hadn't built from one of Bruce's kits before, you are really missing something special. This addition to Bruce's fleet has got to be his best. The quality is nothing but the best and with the number of machined parts in the box, this thing will go together quick. I'm going to use the FTE T-500 in mine and will add a pneumatic brake system (which is probably over kill). Only question I had is the layout of the equipment bay where all the radio and batteries go. I'll probably build a shelf inside to facilitate the installation of the gear and brake pneumatic controls. Another thing that I'll probably do is close in the nose wheel well to keep the crap from flying into the fuselage when flying in less than perfect weather. The idea of spraying water up into the inside of the fuselage during the takeoff roll just doesn't suite me. Will post as the assembly begins.

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RE: Reaction 54 Jet Kit - 12/27/2004 12:51:01 PM   
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Status: online 		Hey folks,
Rec'd my kit on Friday the 17th. Started building Sunday the 20th. Worked on it "full time" on the 24th, 25th, and 26th. The entire airframe is assembled and ready for final shaping and sanding. All part fits were very good to excellent, wood selection was superb, and the instruction booklet is beyond compare. Should finish up with the final shaping and sanding before the weekend. Monokote covering this weekend..maybe! No build pictures..heck, its a builtup airframe with ribs. This thing is HUGE! Being real careful not to bang it into the floor joists and walls. I have two 4 by 8 foot building boards (yeah, eat your hearts out!) so I could work on one thing and while that was drying, I could proceed to another. I built both wing panels at the same time. I believe this saved a bunch of time too! The preshaed shape and radiused LE was great! Using the Hitec servos as called out on the plans. Installing a new Futaba 9C to guide her. Looks like a Simjet 1200AES+ at 16 pounds of thrust will push her thru the sky. Ordered the Handibond glue package and am very pleased with this adhesive. Used alot of Titebond also! I really forgot how well Titebond sands!
Looking at closing in the nose gear to form a wheel well. Not really liking having open "to the elements". I designed a removeable tail to ease transport as the biggest car we have is the lovely Mrs Rigotti's Santa Fe SUV. Forget the Escort station wagon! Bruce has done a wonderful job with this kit. More updates later!

Dave Rigotti

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RE: Reaction 54 Jet Kit - 12/27/2004 5:44:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lemme know if you can get it to fit in the Santa Fe....

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RE: Reaction 54 Jet Kit - 12/27/2004 11:15:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I started building mine today at 9:00AM took a break for lunch and by 5:00Pm I was ready for another break for dinner. I have the tail finished; I always build the tail first. The fuse is ready to sheet the top and bottom and will be finished by the end of the evening. I am delivering a plane tomorrow in PA, and will begin the wing on Weds. Way to much fun with this one! I haven't built a wood plane in years that was this well thought out and easy to build.

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RE: Reaction 54 Jet Kit - 12/27/2004 11:33:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Any of you guys taking photo's as you build? Hadn't started mine yet. Need to finish up a Bridi XLT monokote job so I can clear off my building board. Anybody else considering pneumatic brakes for their kit? I went with CompactOmnibrakes for mine. Mainly for the price. They'll work nicely with the Robart 3 inch wheels. I went ahead and installed the foam inserts for them too. Much stiffer and now I won't worry about the compression from the weight of the airframe plus fuel.

OK I'll admit it, I'm brand new to turbines and felt that Bruce's kit would be a good start for me. So if I ask a lot of dumb questions, please bare with me. What are folks opinion about a redundant battery system? Considering the cost of this whole project ( a big chunk for me to bite into any ways) I don't want to take a chance. Receivers these days are pretty reliable so long as one is careful with the antenna placement. But I got to play with the numbers on the milliamp draw of digital servo's under a load and it kind of spooked me.

Lets see some pic's...

Cheers,

Tim
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RE: Reaction 54 Jet Kit - 12/27/2004 11:49:29 PM   
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Status: online 		There is plenty of pics in the instruction Book. Mine wont look any better than Bruce's. I did a few things different to the instructions. I used BVM Aeropoxy on all the aircraft ply parts (Retract mounts, turbine mounts etc) and also on the wing spar doublers. Took a little longer but gave me some peace of mind.

Mine is almost ready to tape together so I can sit in the workshop and make jet noises!!!!.


Regards

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RE: Reaction 54 Jet Kit - 12/27/2004 11:57:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tim, if you are worried about the additional draw of digital servos, don't use them. You don't need digitals, especially not for this bird. But the way that I do the redundant power system is with the Multiplex 12 channel IPD receiver. It has built in circuitry that draws from the strongest of two 6 volt packs that you plug into the twin battery jacks. Excellent system. If you don't want to use the MPX receiver, Electrodynamics makes a Battery Back'r that essentially does the same thing. It works very well too.

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RE: Reaction 54 Jet Kit - 12/28/2004 12:06:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Do you guys plan on using the metal cable (nyrod type) control linkages for the elevator?

BTW, does the elevator pushrod "push" for up elevator of "pull"?

Thanks

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RE: Reaction 54 Jet Kit - 12/28/2004 1:24:08 AM   
tschuy


 

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Status: offline 		Thanks Woketman,

Appreciate the input and will probably go with a battery bak'r. I was going with digitals based upon Bruce's recommendation and have such already purchased them. I figure that if I go with two 1650 packs on a battery bak'r I should pretty safe. According to Bruce's reports it looks like this thing will not go as near as fast as one might expect. Still, it's pretty respectable and there are some barn door size flaps and ailerons on this thing.

Matt, looking at the plans of this thing, the elevator is a push on the steel cable for up. I'm going to trust Bruce with his design and flight test performance and go with what he did. Staying with the FTE T-500 I don't believe I'll be push the flight envelope anymore than what he states that was done. Now for those who are going to put bigger engines on this thing than what he has recommended, then I guess you're on your own and probably look to something a little stiffer. One has to give Bruce a great deal of credit with his design's. Take for instance the Super King (Yea, I've built one of those too). He originally designed the airframe for an engine up to 80 cc's, but yet there are guys out there flinging that monster around with 150 cc engines on them and it's holding together very well. I stuck with a Fuji 64 cc on mine and it does very well. The point is that his designs are strong and have been proven time and time again. Keep to the original design and keep it light and it'll fly great. Over build and add additional weight only degrades the flight performance.

Cheers,

Tim

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RE: Reaction 54 Jet Kit - 12/28/2004 3:01:38 AM   
BruceTharpe