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Shipping box - 12/7/2004 3:45:57 AM   
daven



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Status: offline 		I'm getting ready to start building a shipping box for my winterfest trip.

I'm thinking about building 3 seperate boxes:

1 for 2 fuzes (either quickee or q40)
1 for 2 wings (either)
1 for support equipment

1/4" ply or baltic birch with 1" x 2" internal frame.

Not an expert here by any means, so let me know the best way to put these together. Will probably ship USPS or UPS.

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RE: Shipping box - 12/7/2004 4:53:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wood can be pretty heavy Dave. You'll pay for that ever time you ship it. I only use card board boxes. Like what my dad sends you with you Vortex. I ship two of those to Phx each year for Q500. Put two wings in one box with the 1" bubble wrap, and put two fuses in the other box using bubble wrap around each fuse. For Q40 you would need to find a box a bit longer. And if you found boxes that are double corrugated, that would be the best... just some thoughts.

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RE: Shipping box - 12/7/2004 5:10:10 PM   
daven



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Status: offline 		Carboard just scares the crap out of me. Especially after my last escapade with UPS on the Formula 1 plane that recently arrived damaged.

I only travel to a couple races a year where I would have to fly, so I can eat the shipping charges, I just don't want my stuff to get damaged. I do enough of that myself at the races

I will say, that I've never received a damaged Vortex. I'll have my carton guy look into cardboard for me, it sure would be a heck of a lot cheaper. Do you think it would make sense to build some sort of internal wood structure inside of the cardboard to help prevent crushing?

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RE: Shipping box - 12/7/2004 6:59:29 PM   
daven



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Status: offline 		Just happened to have lunch with my local carton guy. Sounds like he can hook me up, just need to send him the dimensions and he will have them made out of double wall gratis, or at a cost if I wanted triple wall.

Thanks Randy, this will be much easier than building.

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RE: Shipping box - 12/9/2004 12:41:59 PM   
daven



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Status: offline 		Once last question. Do you guys prefer UPS, Fed-X, Greyhound, or just plane old Post Office for shipping these? I don't care whats cheapest, but who do I have best chance with in terms of delivery and damage control?

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RE: Shipping box - 12/9/2004 3:18:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		I use USPS ... until your box becomes to large for the dimensions. I pretty much bounce between FEDEX and USPS. Dave... how about some of that pink foam glued to the inside of the boxes for added strength. I think that would be good.... however your boxes would probably become to big to ship with USPS... ? just a thought.

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RE: Shipping box - 12/9/2004 5:31:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Fedex gave me grief about a damage incident last year at Phx ... they wanted to see the original sales receipt for every item as evidence of value ... that's hard to come up with when your airplanes are homemade.

I used a heavy ABS plastic ski/snowboard case, and bubble wrap around the fuselages inside. Still, somehow they managed to twist/crush/snap one of the tails. I think the delivery driver just got so annoyed at all the huge boxes he had to deliver to the Windmill Inn that day, he started throwing 'em on top of each other. Mine probably ended up under one of those $400 aluminum jobbies from Edmunds.

Internal bracing definitely would help, if you have that option.

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RE: Shipping box - 12/9/2004 6:43:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Something to consider when shipping... If the box has volume in it (open air), then it is more apt to be crushed, bent, etc. If you pack it 100% full, then it is more difficult to damage or shift the contents around in. I've shipped some very delicate UAV airframes in a standard cardboard box and filled the box entirely with peanuts. If the airframe was an open volume fiberglass shell, then it too was filled with peanuts. Messy, but it gets there safely. You can also build uprights in the box around the parts so that it is difficult to crush. Basically, pillars in the middle.

Also, another theory - the faster you ship it, the less time they have to damage it!

Michael

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RE: Shipping box - 12/9/2004 7:21:04 PM   
daven



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Status: offline 		Your right about the windmill. They must get loaded with boxes around the Winterfest and JR races. That reminds me, I better give Ernie a call and make my reservations so I can get on the first floor

Last year it took 30 minutes at the desk and a $70 bribe to get Ernie to somehow "find" a room on the 1st. Makes it much easier coming in an out. Poor Fred B. had to wait while this entertaining scene took place.

I'm going to try and get some large foam pillars to fill space, I don't want to be dragging peanuts up and down the hallways. I hate those things.

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RE: Shipping box - 12/9/2004 7:21:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Michael has it right. Part of my job is shipping laptops around the country and we never go slower than 2nd day air for PC's. If it goes ground then the batting average goes way down and the shipper doesn't care

Try to pack the item to survive a 3 foot drop. We put a laptop in a box that affords 5-6 inchs of crush space filled with the ever popular packing peanuts and bubble wrap.

If you use the bio-degradable peanuts then you'll alway have snacks for the dog.


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