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RE: How To - Plug In Wings - 3/16/2005 6:01:54 AM   
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Mike, I am surprised..whats going on...

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RE: How To - Plug In Wings - 3/16/2005 6:04:44 AM   
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As I said, I would like to see ANY photo of the building process of this plug. Don't you have one? (prior to the addition of the cheek cowls)


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RE: How To - Plug In Wings - 3/16/2005 6:23:25 AM   
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Mike as I said in post #20..I did not document the process..ie did not take photos of the plugs being made...anyways..I dont know who this AK is and what is your conceren about me putting up photos of my molds on the RCU...do the RCU Forum Rules require me to seek your consent prior to posting anything on the Forum or do they require me to post photos as per your INSTRUCTIONS!!. They dont require either.

The Community Moderator to please put in a word. What is the meaning of these snickers "So, you built this, eh, "Jack" from Bangkok?" ARe you trying to question my identity ? Or are you trying to imply that I have copied your design..

I want this to end with this very post.

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RE: How To - Plug In Wings - 3/16/2005 6:24:55 AM   
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Any moderator who reads this, please contact me directly before you edit anything in this thread. If there is any question, have Marc contact me directly, we are friends and I will work this particular thread out with him.

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Sean Reitmeyer

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RE: How To - Plug In Wings - 3/16/2005 6:32:29 AM   
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Here are some photos of my design, started several years ago, and stolen last year. I will publish the story on my site if this persists.

In the meantime, you be the judge...

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RE: How To - Plug In Wings - 3/16/2005 6:33:31 AM   
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And some more...


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RE: How To - Plug In Wings - 3/16/2005 6:45:27 AM   
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Here's a photo of the two plugs that were stolen. In Kolkata, India, by the way.

"Jack", I noticed you can be emailed at indiatimes.com That's pretty far from Bangkok.

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RE: How To - Plug In Wings - 3/16/2005 6:46:45 AM   
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Mike, you are casting allegations which are baseless...you may wish to publish whatever story you may please...its seems you are tring to misuse your dominant position and popularity on the forum...if you do have a problem with "AK" settle it with him directly...

OH..and from next time I should keep photos of every piece that I join while making the plugs..cause MR MIKE JAMES will question it..

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RE: How To - Plug In Wings - 3/16/2005 6:57:12 AM   
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Here is another photo of ME building this plug, from article on fiberglassing techniques, at http://homepage.mac.com/mikejames/nextcraft_site/fiberglassing.html

You'll notice the similar (and outdated, by today's standards) vertical fin, the also-unusual cowl plug, and finally, the slight upward curve of the nose, just before it meets the canopy section. Notice the wing tube location, as well as the canopy's unusual length, along with the other distinctive details.

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RE: How To - Plug In Wings - 3/16/2005 7:06:20 AM   
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Mike, this issue of yours is unnecessarrily being dragged on here..i am repeating that if you have a problem with AK settle with him directly..why are you dragging me into it...I dont know who this AK is...anyways...why dont we correspond by PM or email outside the forum...

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RE: How To - Plug In Wings - 3/16/2005 7:23:07 AM   
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RE: How To - Plug In Wings - 3/16/2005 7:42:24 AM   
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Why dont you post the Copyright Laws as applicable for composites..and we can measure the dimensions...to get all issues to rest..it is just coincidental that the models are similar..however do let me satisfy you that I did look up your website and many others way back, prior to you removing the two airplanes, while I was building the plug.

I do not want to comment on this issue anymore ...I would suggest that you check with this "AK" about the plugs which you allege were stollen...maybe he can throw some light.

I would be happy to correspond with you on the email or PM if you so desire.

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RE: How To - Plug In Wings - 3/16/2005 8:26:54 AM   
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I have not accused you of anything, although I've certainly shown some powerful evidence, whereas you have shown none. I also have not "attacked" anyone else on these forums. On the contrary, I'm quite supportive, and value the experience.

But, the evidence here speaks for itself. (and I don't mean just in the particular thread... but in your other threads, both here and on RC Groups) ...And, Photos don't lie. When you put 500 or more hours in a plug, you won't have any problem identifying it later, regardless of something like the added-on cheek cowls. (which are a feature designed for large 4-strokes, and have nothing to do with a model this size, by the way) There are only two choices here. You are either AK, or you have somehow obtained my stolen property from him. But... You said YOU built the plugs. So, let's compare notes, shall we?

You say you're from Bangkok, but have an email address in India. You started posting both here and on RC Groups just after AK stopped. You have the same interests as AK, including the Cessna project, and you also spell it wrong "Cesna", exactly as AK did. Your recent question about the Eppler 168 airfoil is the airfoil I chose for this plane, as documented on my site. You have a propensity for using semi-"legal" language, and also spell many of those words wrong, in precisely same way as AK. although you say you're a different person from a different country.

You have no data on the plane, and not a single shred of evidence, (drawings, photos, specs., or whatever) that you built it. No one today builds cowlings the way I built that one, and the canopy length is also unusual today. The tiny slope of the nose, just before it intersects the canopy is a personal touch of mine, that you couldn't have copied from photos, as is the wing tube position. You say you have plans to build a 1/6th scale "Cesna". I gave AK my Top Flite C-182 kit as a thank you, and he later told me that he intended to copy (steal) it and make molds. You have also refused to post photos of your plug-making process on that project too. ...Hmmm. AK lied to me and said he was familiar with vacuum bagging. You are investigating vacuum bagging here, as he was. AK was looking for a cheap way to cut foam, and you referenced exactly the same site that he was investigating. (Foamlinx)

No one builds small pattern planes today with plug-in stabs. I notice that you failed to put markings on the vertical tail where they should be... Coincidental with the fact that I blocked these off and sanded them smooth, in preparation for raising them, just before my trip to India. You asked a question about a substitute for the MK elevator bellcrank, which was one of the items stolen from me in India, and intended for both pattern planes.

You couldn't have copied my design that accurately from the photos on my site alone, and there's no reason today to have copied the particular design features of that plane, since they are outdated. (i.e., the vertical fin shape, and moment arms.) I notice you left the top block on the vertical fin, which I added as a rudder fairing, just before going to India.

But you expect us to believe that these are all just mere coincidences, and you are a designer of plugs and molds who has no data or drawings or photos of anything you do. Well, I simply don't believe that this many coincidences are possible.

If anyone wants to follow along, here's the AK profile from RCU, at http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/showProfile.asp?memid=80639 and here's the current "Jack" profile on RCU, at http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/showProfile.asp?memid=134493

Previous AK profile on RC Groups is at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?userid=35301 and the current "Jack" profile on RC Groups is at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=45478 It's a little erie...

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RE: How To - Plug In Wings - 3/16/2005 8:43:44 AM   
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Mike I am not interested in proving anything to anybody when I dont have to. Also, time and again you a referring to this person AK of whom I have no knowledge of. If you think that there has been copyright infringment please state the laws of copyright, as applicable, and then we can compare notes.


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