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RE: How About This... - 12/22/2004 11:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Fugi will stay on when pluged in to a USB cable. I always forget about that and run the batteries down. Does that hepl? How would I power it? What wire is positive and negitive?

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RE: How About This... - 12/22/2004 11:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are four wires.....the red is positive and black is negative. Plug those into a four cell receiver pack. Some will let you take photos and some won't, even when you power through the plug. Youll just have to try it and see if the camera will still take photos.

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RE: How About This... - 12/22/2004 11:52 PM   
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RE: How About This... - 12/23/2004 12:17 AM   
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The Fugi will not allow me to take shots. But if in PC mode I can look out of the camera thru the usb cable. The other problem is the camera needs the batteries to be in to complete some power loop, therefore I would not save any wieght.

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RE: How About This... - 12/23/2004 4:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you can set your power off feature to remain on longer, like maybe five minutes, you'll be ok. Then it's just a matter of using a servo to actuate the shutter button. If not, then I'd look into the aiptek blip chip camera, which is allready configured for our ap use. You'll need an sd memory card, but those are pretty cheap and the camera works flawlessly
www.blip.com.au is the website. Ben is very helpful and you'll get the camera pretty quickly. It's very very light and does a very good job. If you want something right off the shelf there in iowa where you live, go to walmart and get the vivitar 3350 and power it with the usb cable but leave the batteries in because it will dump the memory if you don't. All you need to do then is glue a servo to the top of the camera to actuate the shutter. If you power it with the battery wires from the usb cable, it will stay on but let you use the camera also.

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RE: How About This... - 12/23/2004 1:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Its a groovy little camrea. But not where I want to go.

I guess I'll be tinkering inside the Fugi until I get it to work correctly. I do dont mind if I blow it up, since it has lived thru some pretty nasty crashes. The inside will be opened and I want to see if it may be possible to electronicly actuate the shutter with 4.8vt from the Rx and go from there. I'll also see if there may be a path on the circut board to defeat the power save feature and still have on and off. The fact that I can power it fron the Rx is great, but if I need to keep the batteries inside I dont save weight. That is not my biggest concern since it will be in a 1/4 scale Cub.

When I use the plane for AP work, I have a 12Vt VCR TV in my truck recording the whole time. So I get a decent video with the "freeze frame" from when the camera shutter goes off and writes to memory. This experiment has only cost me a USB cable and that aint much. But I will post my findings about the power and shutter outcome.

It would be nice if someone in RC land knows the voltage the monetary switches in these cameras operate at. I do not have a vmultimeter.

Unfortunatly I have only a couple of videos on my website before I ran out of time and got busy with work, plus I had a dance with the deck and buried two planes.

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My ultimate goal is to find the manufacturer of the Video Tx's that are used in racing motorcycles and cars that you would see used on ESPN and other broadcasts. That is the key, "broadcast quallity". I found the cameras and mics, but I can't seem to find the Tx's.

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RE: How About This... - 12/23/2004 5:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Doesn't that camera take a memory card? If it does you won't lose the memory. Those tx's you see at the races aren't much higher power than what we use. They have receivers all over the tracks and when the car or bike comes into view the next receiver picks up the signal. You never see an inside view from a whole lap of anything and that's why. If you do it means that there's an aircraft overhead with a receiver. That's about it.
The guys that have the stuff you see on REALTV usually are carrying a mini dv somewhere and taping onto that from the camera. Most race cars have onboard recording, at the professional level, and they use it like football coaches do after a game. With things going digital, the equipment doesn't weigh much at all to record an entire race.

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RE: How About This... - 12/23/2004 6:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you don't have a multimeter you better get one.......a good fine pointed soldering iron, flux, magnifying glass, anything you would use for micro work.
in the mean time do a search under "schieppati switch"

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RE: How About This... - 12/24/2004 4:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		There would be advantages to having this type of platform and also some disadvantages. The advantage would be completely vibration free
shots. The down sides would be always having to have two pilots to operate the system and sometimes it can be kind of hard finding someone to always volunteer their services.
Another draw back is that although the photo plane wouldn't have any power issues, the tow plane would be dealing with twice as much. Twice the drag, more weight, having the whipping issues involved with aerotowing, among other things.
The glider itself, would not be able to maintain altitude or be able to stay over target in less than ideal conditions, so it's a one shot sort of a deal. Granted, you can always go back up, but then the light has changed, shadows fall differently, etc etc.
If you use a fairly long tow, you could always just stay hooked up to the tow plane. Then, once you get finished with photos or video, you could simply disconnect and glide to the runway seperately of the tow plane.
Using a big enough towplane would even allow you the option of using a powered glider or e powered trainer to loiter, once you've gotten to your photo target area.
Myself, I opted for something that took some tweaking and experimenting, but also something that could satisfy all my needs and something I could fly when I can't find anyone else to go with me that has RC experience.
I might still try converting my Kadet over to E power, because my pod allows a lot of experimentation. It's 2.5 inches square and about sixteen inches long, which would allow a LOT of batteries I'm just not sure I want to give up my fuel and go capability.

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RE: How About This... - 12/24/2004 10:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree Randall.

I will most likely build a Super Fling King or Telemonstor and go down that road. The Super Cub is fine for now, I just did not want to bucher it. The SFK will do fine since it can lift something of 12-15lbs cargo.

The tow platform idea is gone. The camera will stay servoe actuated with the BW video system and all will be fine.

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RE: How About This... - 12/24/2004 10:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've found my eighty inch Kadet to be more than adequate lift wise. It weighs in the neighborhood of ten lb fully loaded and although I'd like to try a .91, the tt 61 flies it very well.

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RE: How About This... - 12/24/2004 11:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		A Senior Kadet with a normal (76") wing will carry a payload of 15 pounds, in addition to the usual weight of the plane, with any good .61.
My push-pull Kadet with two .40s will fly on either motor, at 13 pounds AUW.

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RE: How About This... - 12/24/2004 11:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		You gotta pic of that push pull kadet, Paul?

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RE: How About This... - 12/25/2004 12:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here's some photos..
The Cessna 336 look-alike is built from my plans.. It used two Saitos about .55 capacity..
The original wing was lost in a crash on another plane. It was stock span.
The new wing is about 88 inch span..

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RE: How About This... - 12/25/2004 12:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice kit-bashing!

I was thinking of simular plans for the remainer of two Ultra Sticks I had laying around. But I was thinking of using it for a fun aerobatic skyjumper launcher or candy bomber! I have since moved on and just bought another fuse and recovered it.

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RE: How About This... - 12/25/2004 1:46 AM   
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http://users.adelphia.net/~pjburke1011/kadets.htm

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RE: How About This... - 12/25/2004 2:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Those are quite the kit bashes I've seen kadets that have also looked pretty strange. Kadet pylon racers and Kadet Robins, candy bombers and the like. Mine was an ARF so there wasn't a lot I could do to it unless I really took it apart so I modified it to suit my needs. No matter what you do to them, they all fly like Kadets

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RE: How About This... - 12/25/2004 10:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		While it’s true about the money for the electric components, charger and the like a lot of the photography I do you couldn’t go gas.

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