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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 10/17/2009 10:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here are links to more videos that I have posted on Youtube from Rhinebeck.

Red Barron Pizza Stearman - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpHRtMeN2ww

ORA Museum's Curtiss Jenny - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txgi6gBOvFU

1/3 Scale Model flight before the show - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSHnEo05h-k

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 10/17/2009 11:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Want some WWI warbirds that're fun? Look at the little electrics Great Planes is marketing.

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S.E.5a
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They're very decent flyers.

Once you learn to ease the throttle into a taxi while steering with rudder, holding the throttle until rotation and then easing power on for takeoff, they're a piece of cake. They look good in the air and at least the 1st three on the list fly larger than they are. Surprisingly steady. Or at least I was surprised first time I flew one.

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 10/26/2009 8:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here are a couple more that I’ve posted on YouTube. Two are models and one is the ORA Albatros DVa in the rain on Saturday.


http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=jaywileyrc#p/u/0/aYIBI5AcUSw

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=jaywileyrc#p/u/2/KtrjoAYiMAs

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=jaywileyrc#p/u/1/G0EOHs7B-s4

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 1/13/2010 11:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		So, did anyone get a new WWI airplane (biplane or otherwise) to build this winter (we got over a foot from a three day storm over the New Years weekend)? I didn't, but I am starting a biplane kit in the next week or so. Currrently I'm converting my five electric planes over to a new Spektrum radio system and getting a couple of them ready for snow flying.

I did fly a couple of planes on New Years Day in a blustery snow storm...great fun!

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 1/14/2010 1:31 AM   
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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 1/14/2010 1:34 AM   
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I took my Balsa USA Eindecker (along with H9 DVII and Concept Fleet M2) to my first big WWI event this past summer in Rhinebeck, New York (a long trip from Australia, but worth it if you get the chance).

Hope to see some pictures of your progress.

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 1/14/2010 6:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mine has wing warping and full floating tail services. I used to fly a 1/6 scale Busa eindekker which i converted to the same configuration. Flew well despite all the nay sayers who said the wing warping would be useless!

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 1/14/2010 6:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had seen on another thread where guys had been converting the BUSA kit to full flying tail and wing warping. I thought about the full flying tail but decided it was more work than I wanted to do. I did make the tail all pull-pull cable control as a nod to the full size rather than pushrods but that's as far as I went with the controls.

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 1/16/2010 12:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm a 3D and WWII freak, but when I watched the Robert Redford movie "Great Waldo Pepper" as kid in the seventies the finale really got me excited about WWI style aerial combat. Have yet to actually build a WWI era plane after all these years but one of these days I will.

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 1/16/2010 1:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey eddyc,

There's nothing like your first "Dawn Patrol" to get the castor oil juices flowing. Speaking of good aerial photography, Howard Hughes' "Hell's Angels" and Errol Flynn in "Dawn Patrol" Both have some incredible action shots especially considering the aircraft being used and the film technology of the day (as opposed to the more modern "Waldo Pepper").

It's a very different pace and performance than 3D or WWII, but still just as challenging as rewarding. The level of commitment and dedication that is out there for this type of flying and the aircraft, both full size and models is amazing. I was just scanning through a thread on a 1/2 scale Fokker DVI build...amazing!

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8453895/anchors_8453895/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#8453895

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 1/16/2010 1:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you liked Waldo Pepper I think you'll like this 105" ARF beauty from K&W!

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 5/10/2010 9:53 PM   
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My Maxford Jenny 105 goes together with 2 wing tubes and four bolts. It flys great on a 50cc gas engine and looks scale in the air. There's some deals on RCU so check them out. This is one of the easiest to assemble and best flying planes I'vew ever owned.

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 8/7/2010 1:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have the same set up, how does yours balance? Mine is set up to the instructions but seemed to me tail heavy and my maiden proved to be tail heavy, lucky I got it down in one piece.
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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 8/7/2010 1:26 AM   
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Trust me these are a challenge to fly and land like a real scale plane-many have lost the art of flying scale or never try it.

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 8/7/2010 2:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice Pup Frenchie, BUSA ? Mind you even the little ones fly well! Here are a couple of my Kavan ones.

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 8/7/2010 8:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		 That Red Baron Pizza Squadron stearman is phenomenal! Can anybody give me some information on this aircraft?

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 8/7/2010 11:00 AM   
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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 8/7/2010 12:46 PM   
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 That Red Baron Pizza Squadron stearman is phenomenal! Can anybody give me some information on this aircraft?



Real maybe - WW1 - No.

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 8/8/2010 6:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just purchased a DVD release of "The Great Waldo Pepper" at the Owl's Head Museum during their Wings and Wheels spectacular. My old version was a VHS copy so this should be fun!

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 8/8/2010 6:56 AM   
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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 8/8/2010 7:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Jaybird

I just purchased a DVD release of ''The Great Waldo Pepper'' at the Owl's Head Museum during their Wings and Wheels spectacular. My old version was a VHS copy so this should be fun!

Jaybird


Great movie. Love the music - I have the soundtrack . . . on 33-1/3 LP. The airshow theme is in my mind when I taxi out a model. Unfortunately Hollywood at that time was looking for tragic heroes and poignant endings.

Just remember it was Jimmy Doolittle that did the first outside loop in 1927. Not Kessler; the pseudo-Udet charagter. ;-)

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 8/9/2010 4:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		WWI and WWII aircraft are different mindsets. I love them both. There's nothing like lifting the gear and coming around for a high speed low pass with a good 4 stroker turning max rpm. Except for one thing- a low speed low pass with a WWI warbird floating gracefully by with the pilot's scarf and group leaders banner flapping in the breeze.

I don't do electrics but I'm glad E-flite put out those little WWI birds. They garner significant interest at the field and the younger flyers are being attracted to them for 'reasons they don't understand'. That's GREAT. Might get them to try a 1/4 scale D VII one day!

As you know if you're reading this thread, both require skill to fly but are very rewarding when you get it just right. If you do manage to nose over a Dr I on landing you can always claim it's a scale manuver ; ) !

Keep those warbirds flyin' guys and gals!

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 8/26/2010 9:06 PM   
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      I have been going through the photos on this subject and it makes my colletion
look a bit poor !, I have only my Tiger Moth left in oldtimers, fitted with an OS 40 ( 1990 circa ?)
and built from a plan 20 years ago, all the others SE 5A, Sopwith Pup, Fokker Eindecker,
Sopwith Camel, Vicount (ok it's not a Real one ) have ended up in the bin.
  I have found another Fokker Eindecker from Balsa USA, and i am planning on building one,
 as my last  one 'ended' it's life in Newcastle ( Great Britain ) in 1974, 'shot down' with a crap
radio control which at that time cost me a month's pay.
  My questions are to the experianced builders of this model, and they are,
             The diameter of the cowling, as i will start looking for an aluminium replacment,
will it fly on a 40 four stroke, ( lazy aerobaticks), are all the wing parts pre-cut, especially the ribs,
(otherwise there won't be two the same !).
Thanks, Paul.



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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 8/26/2010 9:34 PM   
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Is it the larger 80" span BUSA Eindecker or their smaller version? I have the 80" version with a Saito 80 four-stroke and it's a great combination. A 40 size four-stroke would be way too small for this airframe. I used a couple of thin aluminum pots from our ubiquitous Wal-Marts here to make my cowling and cheek cowls from as the supplied ABS plastic ones weren't what I wanted to use. From what I remember the 80" version went together very easily, especially the wings. Everything is die-cut and goes together like a big egg crate. I had looked on some Eindecker threads and found that several builders suggested doing something to the rear structure of the fuselage to lighten it up, otherwise the plane, as built, is extremely tail-heavy. I modified mine to have an open frame structure from the wing saddle back buy cutting out panels from the slab sides provided and adding square stock cross bracing. I still had to add two bars of lead weights to the motor mount to get it to balance. Great flyer and very easy to handle.

Again, it depends on which version youa re looking at.

Here is one thread. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_9369734/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm

There are others.

Here is a link to a flying video of mine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWAulGa3FL8

Good luck,

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RE: Lack of interest in WWI war birds ? - 8/27/2010 1:11 AM   
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I have the BUSA .40 size Eindecker. The diameter of the cowl is 5". I have an OS .56 alpha 4 stroke in mine and it's probably too much engine. But I do fly here at 5400 feet above sea level and occasionally at 8500 feet so I like to have that added power. With that engine she only took about 2 ounces of nose weight when built as per plans. I would guess that a good .40 four stroke would fly her at sea level but I don't know about aerobatics

The wing ribs are all cut as are the wingtips. The kit goes together very nicely and essentially flys like a trainer.

Best of luck with it if you get one.

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