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Comments on SceaduEVO50 - 1/10/2005 12:57:16 AM

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Hi all,

I am thinking of getting back into this hobby. I am planning on buying the EVO50 with the O.S.50. Futaba 401 Gryo w/9254.

What type of blades you recommend for general flying. Need to relearn how to fly again. It's been at less 12 years from my last flight.

What other accessories or upgrades do you recommend and any advise you have.

Thanks in advance.

RE: Comments on SceaduEVO50 - 1/10/2005 2:15:31 AM

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You want 600mm blades. There are numerous ones available, both fiberglass and carbon fiber. Suggest fiberglass; they're cheaper, and you're having to learn all over again.

The Evo is probably the best bet in a plastic helicopter these days. It is higher quality than the ever-popular Raptor, both in parts and flying. Die-hard Raptorites will no doubt disagree, but I've seen and flown both, before making a decision on what to buy, and I chose the Evo. Hirobo really got it right with this one; the fit and overall quality of the parts is very apparent. The push-pull linkages are VERY tedious to build and set up. Follow the manual EXACTLY; your reward will be one incredibly smooth-flying helicopter, especially if you use digital servos.

The kit comes with a muffler, but it is the only sub-standard item in an otherwise excellent kit. You can use it, and it will work; noisily. The flip-floppers will advise you to get a muscle pipe or some other high-speed exhaust. If you want REAL cool, get a Hatori 60 muffler. You will have to be creative making it fit on the smaller manifold of the 50SX, but it is smooth and quiet, and really lets the smaller engine breathe. I have a .46 FX-H in mine, with Shadel piston/liner, and the Hatori SB-1. You'll want the two-piece Hatori, because the one-piece Hatoris do not have the slotted manifold and therefore are much more difficult to fit onto the smaller engine.

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RE: Comments on SceaduEVO50 - 1/10/2005 3:11:50 AM

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I just checked Hirobo web site and found two models of the EVO50.

http://model2.hirobo.co.jp/english/
(under new products)

H.P.M. with 90 degree EX Swash Plates
Carbon semi-symmetrical main blades L=600

S.W.M. with 120 degree EX Swash Plates (10mm)
FRP symmetrical main blades L=600

I read on a different site that the 90 you can use either mechanical or electronic mixing and the 120 is for electronic only.

What the advantage or disadvantage and recommendations?

Thanks again.

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RE: Comments on SceaduEVO50 - 1/10/2005 3:36:58 AM

Carolina Raptor

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I too have flown both the raptor and evo, the evo is a much better deal if you know how to fly a little already.

Thing is is seems most LHS have raptor parts, so they are easier to get.. but the Hirobo quality is much better and support from Mr Green at runryder is unmatched.

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RE: Comments on SceaduEVO50 - 1/10/2005 3:18:37 PM

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IMO, too much is being made of this CCPM business. Regular mechanical mixing works just fine, IF you take the time to properly set-up and adjust your machine. Personally, I think a lot of folks see CCPM as a short-cut. Wrong; it requires as much attention to detail as mechanical mixing.

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RE: Comments on SceaduEVO50 - 1/10/2005 3:25:21 PM

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Thanks for your comments.

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RE: Comments on SceaduEVO50 - 1/15/2005 2:00:54 AM

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You'll love the Evo 50. Mine was the first 50 size machine I had flown and I couldn't believe how solid it was. The push-pull control is so precise, no slop at all. Excellent quality kit.

Mike

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RE: Comments on SceaduEVO50 - 1/22/2005 12:22:15 AM

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quote:

The kit comes with a muffler,

Unless they changed it since I bought mine in July of last year, the Evo 50 does not come with a muffler. I believe the Evo 30 does however. I'm using an inexpensive chrome TT muffler on mine, works very well.

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The push-pull linkages are VERY tedious to build and set up. Follow the manual EXACTLY

I also have to say I don't agree here either except for the part about following the manual. All you do is make two of every link and install twice as many balls on the horns. I had read about the difficult linkage setup prior to buying my Evo and was pleased to find out that it wasn't nearly as bad as some has said.

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RE: Comments on SceaduEVO50 - 1/22/2005 4:33:58 AM

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The EVO is a mini Freya. With inexpensive blades like TT600's and an OS 50 Hyper you can hammer the beejeezus out of it upstairs and it will come down and hover like none other. The Raptor pales by comparison. I have two Raptor 50's and an EVO 50 and the flight characteristics of the EVO are superb. The Raps fly good but the EVO is the winner out of the box. The auto capabilities of the EVO are exemplary. My EVO autos as well as my Freya and X-Spec.

It's a great machine.

TM

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RE: Comments on SceaduEVO50 - 1/22/2005 10:22:23 AM

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I just love mine. It was my first 50 size machine, having flown several 30's over the years. It's set up with TT600 blades, an OS 50 SX-H and a cheap TT chrome muffler. I had heard that 50 size heli's fly nearly as good as a 60. I was a believer after the first day. The first time I went out to start practicing auto's with it I ended up doing 25 or 30. It almost lands itself.

It's a very solid flying machine, much of the credit going to the push-pull linkage. It does exactly what you tell it. The kit quality is incredible. I love building helicopters so the fact that it's not an ARF wasn't a drawback for me. It went together very well, parts fit is excellent. I would recommend it to anyone wanting to get into helicopters or move up from a 30.

Mike

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RE: Comments on SceaduEVO50 - 1/23/2005 4:29:27 PM

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My Evo 50 kit was purchased in May of 2004. It came with the muffler pictured below. Dunno what happened to yours...

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RE: Comments on SceaduEVO50 - 1/23/2005 4:31:28 PM

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Here's another view. I don't believe there's any doubt as to whose product this is, eh?

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RE: Comments on SceaduEVO50 - 1/23/2005 4:43:04 PM

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According to Hirobo's site, the Evo 50 does not come with a muffler or blades. I believe they did at one time and apparently when you bought yours they still did, but not any more. The 30 I believe does come with a muffler and wood blades.

Mike

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RE: Comments on SceaduEVO50 - 1/23/2005 4:48:28 PM

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<<I believe they did at one time...>>

They did indeed. Two friends who bought kits prior to me got this POS el cheapo as well. I guess they realized few folks were using it, and stopped including it to improve their bottom line.

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RE: Comments on SceaduEVO50 - 1/23/2005 4:58:14 PM

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Just in case anybody thinks I'm dreaming, this is an excerpt of what's on their site:

With all the features mentioned plus more, MRC/Altech's commitment to customer service and satisfaction, and new way lower prices, the Sceadu Evolution series from Hirobo is the next big thing in RC Helicopters that will leave others wondering "what just happened."

Sceadu EVOLUTION 30 size with 550mm wood blades and muffler # 0412934
Sceadu EVOLUTION 50 size with DTDS, no blades, no muffler # 0403930.

Available now!

This is the exact same nodel number I have.

Mike

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RE: Comments on SceaduEVO50 - 1/23/2005 11:45:48 PM

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I just remembered something as I was going over my Evo 50. My kit came with, in addition to the stock plastic blades, a set of MAH CF tail blades. I don't know if they still include these or if this was a special deal.

Mike

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